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The outrage on tbv is that their precious china connection  has been disrespected, besmirched, dah de dah de dah.....

Meanwhile who watched the Crown connection with China government

Yet again.....

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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

And ongoing with his and SA No Tolerance stance to ''drug cheats''?

Is this the end of her career?


That depends on what cock-and-bull story her lawyers dream up and boy they've come up with some doozies for athletes before.Wink Some of them have worked.

seems strange that she would take a banned substance knowing she is tested every 4 weeks.

and this :

Swimming Australia CEO Leigh Russell told reporters on Sunday the delay in revealing the positive test to the public was a matter of internal policy.

“We must wait until Asada or the particular athlete speaks on any matter,” she said. “We have some very strict confidentiality agreements in place.”

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Having had some personal experience with the likes ASADA I’m not prepared to hang the athlete u til all the facts are in and case closed.
Even then I would have doubts about anything they claim
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1. What is strict liability? Up

The principle of strict liability is applied in situations where urine/blood samples collected from an athlete have produced adverse analytical results.

It means that each athlete is strictly liable for the substances found in his or her bodily specimen, and that an anti-doping rule violation occurs whenever a prohibited substance (or its metabolites or markers) is found in bodily specimen, whether or not the athlete intentionally or unintentionally used a prohibited substance or was negligent or otherwise at fault.

4. How is the principle put into practice? Up

If the sample came from an in-competition test, then the results of the athlete for that competition are automatically invalidated. This rule helps to establish fairness for the other athletes in the competition.

As relates to subsequent sanctions (Art. 10 of the Code), the athlete has the possibility to avoid or reduce sanctions if he or she can establish to the satisfaction of the tribunal how the substance entered his or her system, demonstrate that he or she was not at fault or significant fault or in certain circumstances did not intend to enhance his or her sport performance. This means that the burden of proof is on the athlete.

The strict liability principle set forth in the Code has been consistently upheld in the decisions of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) and the Swiss Federal Court.


https://www.wada-ama.org/en/questions-answers/strict-liability-in-anti-doping



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Cracks me up how Sun raves on about respecting, or disrespecting , China, all the while living and training on the Gold Coast of Aust Wacko
Why doesnt he live and train at home ?   And who has ever seen a Chinese male so tall and muscular as him ? You just never see big Chinese people.  They are a small race of people , so how come he stands out like dogs balls ??

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Tallest NBA basketballer  Yao Ming 7' 6''


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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Cracks me up how Sun raves on about respecting, or disrespecting , China, all the while living and training on the Gold Coast of Aust Wacko
Why doesnt he live and train at home ?   And who has ever seen a Chinese male so tall and muscular as him ? You just never see big Chinese people.  They are a small race of people , so how come he stands out like dogs balls ??


Duh, maybe because Australia has great swimming coaches Clown
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Cracks me up how Sun raves on about respecting, or disrespecting , China, all the while living and training on the Gold Coast of Aust Wacko
Why doesnt he live and train at home ?   And who has ever seen a Chinese male so tall and muscular as him ? You just never see big Chinese people.  They are a small race of people , so how come he stands out like dogs balls ??


what an intelligent statement, small race so no tall ones LOL

glad you don't stereotype anyone Confused


Tall People in China

 rightAmerican college coach Dale Brown asserted that there are more than 100 seven-foot basketball players under the age 24 in China's sports schools and local basketball clubs. "Something is not right when a nation of midgets is producing more 7-footers than any other country in the world," Brown said and then went on to suggest that something sinister may be at work, such as athletes being given human growth hormone or fetuses undergoing genetic engineering:

Many Chinese believe they don't have the innate skill of African-American and European players and thus have to make up for their lack of innate ability with height and shooting skill. For a while the Chinese experimented with a 4-point-shot as a way of improving their shot making.

The average height of the Chinese male is 5 foot 6 inches. But Chinese are getting taller. The average Chinese child in six centimeters, or around two inches, taller and three kilograms or seven pounds heavier than 30 years ago according to the Chinese Health Ministry. The increases have largely been attributed to improved health and nutrition.

There are now many Chinese over six feet tall and some over seven feet. Tallness in China seems to be a good example of the saying if you are one in a million in China there are a thousand others just like you. For a while a 2.36-meter-tall Chinese man named Bao Xishun was listed by Guinness Book of Records as the world's tallest man.

When foreigners visit Beijing they are often surprised by how large the people are there. One sports agent told Sports Illustrated, "If foreigners think the Chinese people aren't big, it's because for years they've seen only people from Guangzhou or Hong Kong. It's true that south of the Yangtze River most people are short. There they say to big guys---they call them 'long guys'---'You're wasting clothes!" But people north of the Yangtze can be very big."

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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

The outrage on tbv is that their precious china connection  has been disrespected, besmirched, dah de dah de dah.....

Meanwhile who watched the Crown connection with China government

Yet again.....

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Are you outraged at the outrage Isaac, and which outrage are you outraged at?

I only see people debating what is going on in a story that is making headlines worldwide.
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Feed 'em and they grow taller. Plenty of protein - definitely no famines.
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This was printed, in jester, in this morning's press.
"Let everyone get 'souped up' I say, I wanna see someone jump 20 metres in the long jump or run a marathon in less than an hour "
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That isn't a lonely view Bob. 
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Whether this is true or not I am unaware, but it was mentioned on radio this morning that "somewhere " in South America racehorses could be legally juiced up providing whatever they had been given was listed in the race book. I do not know how much credence can be given to that, but can anyone verify the truth of that statement ?
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And Hungarian teen SMASHES a 2 decade old world record held by Phelps.Clap
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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

And Hungarian teen SMASHES a 2 decade old world record held by Phelps.Clap

If it is 2 decades old it was about time.

But you posted before, we still don't care Wink
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I am sure there is nothing suspicious about that. 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am sure there is nothing suspicious about that. 

There isnt.
Because Hungarians have this as priority:

1 Family
2: Work, noble pursuits, art.
3: Sport


Its nowhere near our main priority.
Per capita we are incredible, because we dont even care as much anyway
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You dont care but are compelled to boastfully post about it ...ok.
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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am sure there is nothing suspicious about that. 

There isnt.
Because Hungarians have this as priority:

1 Family
2: Work, noble pursuits, art.
3: Sport


Its nowhere near our main priority.
Per capita we are incredible, because we dont even care as much anyway

you are incredible for sure
boastful, vainglorious, crass, immodest, vain. deluded 
for crying out loud how many thousand times have you posted about Hungary, sure be proud of your background but this Confused
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I am proud of my ancestors too, but i dont boast about them being convicts do I  LOL
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Shayna will apparently be presenting a “diary of her supplement purchases” on Friday.

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Whatever it shows, it is always the athlete's responsibility what they put in their bodies.

More than likely this was a mistake and came from a micro element of a supplement that wasn't labelled or contaminated food. She nor anyone should consume anything not approved.

Saw a GP on tv on the weekend saying that with their computerised systems now, even at basic GP level, they have a tick box on their system for elite athletes If anything that is on ASADA's list of banned substances is entered an alert comes up, supplements included. 

Remember Alberto Contador and his tour de France doping where it was established that the contamination allegedly came from different meat he was eating that had a high count of something from feed they were eating. He still served a 2 year ban.
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Shayna is a guilty cheat.
Cant stand the whole "supplements" excuse.
Eat damn bread, drink water, have some fruit and veg, and stop cheating.
Sports science is a w#ank, invented for people that cant make it to the top on bread.
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I think she is guilty of unwittingly taking a banned substance, should have been more vigilant but it is incredibly difficult, seems they need to consult the authorities before they put anything in their mouths 
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I think she is guilty of unwittingly taking a banned substance, should have been more vigilant but it is incredibly difficult, seems they need to consult the authorities before they put anything in their mouths 

Swimming Australia provide a list of approved supplements.
Every swimmer is GIVEN that list.
The list is mandatory.
If the supplement isnt on that list, it is not approved.

She cheated, and she knows it.


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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I think she is guilty of unwittingly taking a banned substance, should have been more vigilant but it is incredibly difficult, seems they need to consult the authorities before they put anything in their mouths 


She is a dimwit. Took sports supplements that haven't been officially tested. She's a damn spruiker for untested sports supplements - OUT!Thumbs Down



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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Feed 'em and they grow taller. Plenty of protein - definitely no famines.


Exactly.  Of course there are exceptions to every rule, and there are a few freak tall ones around.  Bump them up with drugs and they grow even bigger .
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I think she is guilty of unwittingly taking a banned substance, should have been more vigilant but it is incredibly difficult, seems they need to consult the authorities before they put anything in their mouths 

it is 2019.

If she or her handlers, don't know that by now, they never will.

As in law, ignorance is no excuse.

She has stuffed her career. I say it serves her right.

I'm waiting for the first positive in the equine world.

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The old kangaroo court in action.

She is not a cheat if she was unaware. She may be stupid but not a cheat.
Also, her legal supplement may have been contaminated
I won’t hang her till the facts are in. Others should do the same
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And, as I said earlier, I’ve had first hand experience with these testing regimes. If you’re silly enough to have faith in them go ahead. I know better

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