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    Posted: 13 Sep 2021 at 11:15am
Dont look now but labor are human after all.
Displacing a young woman of refugee parents.
And as I said elsewhere, from the favoured profession, a lawyer.
And Joel Fitzgibbon has quit.
Who said Albo was pm material?
Get your party in order first.

Labor's Fowler parachute for Kristina Keneally leaves a succession plan in tatters and a diversity problem

Politicians find themselves in dangerous territories when they start listing names.

Even worse is when that list is about the cultural diversity credentials of their party – which, if the federal Parliament is anything to go by, is a bit like the men's-only Australian Club spruiking its breastfeeding room.

But Labor leader Anthony Albanese found himself in this very situation as he sought to defend why a local lawyer, the daughter of Vietnamese refugees in one of the nation's most diverse electorates in south-west Sydney, was set to be shoved aside to solve party infighting and salvage the political career of Senator Kristina Keneally, the former NSW premier.

"Senator Penny Wong is our Senate leader," Albanese said an hour before Keneally confirmed her candidacy.

"We have, in western Sydney, people like Ed Husic, the first Muslim elected to the House of Representatives. And we have Anne Aly in the [West Australian] seat of Cowan.

"We have enormous diversity in our ranks.

"And guess what? At the next election there's someone called 'Albanese' running for prime minister. And in terms of diversity, that's a first too."Albanese insisted Labor would have a strong candidate to represent Fowler but didn't want to say it was likely to be Keneally, a resident of Sydney's affluent Northern Beaches.

If Keneally was the candidate he was talking about, he clearly hadn't discussed it with Aly, who on Saturday said "multiculturalism can't just be a trope that Labor pulls out and parades, while wearing a sari and eating some kung pao chicken to make ourselves look good. This is a huge failure".https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-12/kristina-keneally-fowler-labor-diversity-woes-tu-le/100451344

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What a charade, KK is everything that is wrong with Labour, it's all about her, at least Tanya is transparent, well relatively as she still has to toe the party line.
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Did Barnaby Joyce do exactly the same thing?
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Is why I said labor are human after all.
No pedestals need apply.
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Labor are no innocents when it comes to preselection chitfights and branch stacking. Dont think anyone has suggested otherwise.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Did Barnaby Joyce do exactly the same thing?


You mean Scomo?Wink

"Being parachuted into a seat is far from new – and not restricted to Labor. The Prime Minister himself swooped in and became the Member for Cook after local electors wanted someone else."
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Yes I cited him yesterday in the Morrison thread,  but Barnyard was an identical situation to KK. 

He was a Senator for Qld who decided to fly into a House seat of Armidale when Tony Windsor retired. The Nats  booted the preselected person for him.
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It's good to have friends at HQ.Tongue
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Any truth in the rumour KK is to give up her island home to live in Cabramatta in the seat of Fowler ?

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Who knows Bob. She might also move to Bonnyrigg, or Green Valley, or Hinchinbrook, or Middleton Grange, or....

But won't be moving anywhere unless her endorsement is confirmed.  Wink

ps over the years all four mayor parties have spent a small fortune on parachutes, and only time will tell if Kristina's malfunctions.
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They should oust Albo and have Tanya & Kristina as the dream teamBig smile
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Federal Labor MP Anne Aly has accused her party of hypocrisy over a plan to parachute former New South Wales premier Kristina Keneally into a safe multicultural seat in Sydney's south-west while pushing aside a local candidate

Senator Keneally, who lives on the Northern Beaches, has been vying for a seat in the House of Representatives and yesterday  confirmed her intention t run for the electorate of Fowler at the next federal election. 

Retiring local member  Chris Hayes had been pushing for Tu Le, a local lawyer of Vietnamese heritage to be his successor in the electorate, which encompasses the suburbs of Cabramatta and Fairfield.

Ms Aly blasted Senator Keneally's move and called on Labor to do more than "just pay lip service" to multiculturalism.

"Diversity and equality and multiculturalism can't just be a trope that Labor pulls out and parades while wearing a sari and eating some kung pao chicken to make ourselves look good," she told the ABC.

"This is a huge failure for Labor when it comes to diversity and inclusion."

While the plan has angered some within the parliamentary Labor party, few MPs have been willing to publicly criticise it.

Ms Aly, who grew up in the electorate of Fowler and was the first Muslim woman elected to the federal parliament, said she couldn't stay silent on the matter.

"I'm not going to be quiet on this because it's not just that it's personal, it is that I have a responsibility to speak up and hold Labor to account on diversity," she said.

"Frankly, for the Labor Party to be in a position where they are pushing aside a community representative from one of the most multicultural electorates is hypocrisy as far as I'm concerned."

Could KK best be described as a carpetbagger ?

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And on the other side of politics.  There's plenty more but this will do for the moment:

The Nationals' 'fatal mistake': Windsor

Tony Windsor says if The Nationals “had any brains” they’d choose a good local member to replace dumped pre-selected candidate Richard Torbay, rather than parachute Queensland Senator Barnaby Joyce into the lower house.

Mr Windsor said The Nationals kept making the same “fatal mistake” in assuming they owned New England.  He said they’d made that assumption for 88 years and were still demonstrating that attitude in saying they would win the seat back at the next federal election on September 14.

“The Nationals thought they could win back New England by putting up an opportunist – Mr Popularity – but they showed no regard for the party’s philosophy or their grassroots members,” he said.  “And now we’ve got second choice Barnaby Joyce coming back into consideration.

“He was second choice to Richard Torbay and New England was his second choice seat after Maranoa and really New England was one of six seats he was contemplating for a run at the lower house.  It’s pretty clear and plain that Barnaby Joyce standing in New England, if he does, is about himself and not the electorate.

“It’s a bit like cow lottery – he just drops a pat anywhere and says if you invite me I’ll come into your seat.  Good luck to Barnaby Joyce – he’s entitled to stand wherever he likes but don’t try and argue that this is about the people of New England. It’s about Barnaby Joyce and always has been.”

Mr Windsor said Nationals Leader Warren Truss was “up to his armpits” trying to get Mr Torbay to run in New England – only to stop Senator Joyce getting into the lower house.

“That’s not about the people of New England either, that’s about Warren Truss,” he said.


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Bobby, do you reckon Anne might have an agenda here?
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

And on the other side of politics.  There's plenty more but this will do for the moment:

The Nationals' 'fatal mistake': Windsor

Tony Windsor says if The Nationals “had any brains” they’d choose a good local member to replace dumped pre-selected candidate Richard Torbay, rather than parachute Queensland Senator Barnaby Joyce into the lower house.

Mr Windsor said The Nationals kept making the same “fatal mistake” in assuming they owned New England.  He said they’d made that assumption for 88 years and were still demonstrating that attitude in saying they would win the seat back at the next federal election on September 14.

“The Nationals thought they could win back New England by putting up an opportunist – Mr Popularity – but they showed no regard for the party’s philosophy or their grassroots members,” he said.  “And now we’ve got second choice Barnaby Joyce coming back into consideration.

“He was second choice to Richard Torbay and New England was his second choice seat after Maranoa and really New England was one of six seats he was contemplating for a run at the lower house.  It’s pretty clear and plain that Barnaby Joyce standing in New England, if he does, is about himself and not the electorate.

“It’s a bit like cow lottery – he just drops a pat anywhere and says if you invite me I’ll come into your seat.  Good luck to Barnaby Joyce – he’s entitled to stand wherever he likes but don’t try and argue that this is about the people of New England. It’s about Barnaby Joyce and always has been.”

Mr Windsor said Nationals Leader Warren Truss was “up to his armpits” trying to get Mr Torbay to run in New England – only to stop Senator Joyce getting into the lower house.

“That’s not about the people of New England either, that’s about Warren Truss,” he said.



SC, where did you drag that up? Tony Windsor he has been out of politics since 2013 and was a failed candidate at the 2016 federal election.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Bobby, do you reckon Anne might have an agenda here?

I do not know much about her, what do you have up your sleeve on her that might be of interest ?
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She has been in parliament since 2016 and in 2019 as in 2016 she won her seat by around 1% with counting going back and forth for a week. She is an Egyptian immigrant. Her complaint against Labor is that this move is making them less diverse. Anne is a smart lady, she is just making her case for herself for the upcoming election, and nothing gets more media attention than attacking your own party.
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Was simply identifying the "parachute" approach Bob, identifying Joyce as a high profile case in point.

There's been any number since, courtesy of the three (or maybe four) major parties as you'll note I earlier suggested.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

She has been in parliament since 2016 and in 2019 as in 2016 she won her seat by around 1% with counting going back and forth for a week. She is an Egyptian immigrant. Her complaint against Labor is that this move is making them less diverse. Anne is a smart lady, she is just making her case for herself for the upcoming election, and nothing gets more media attention than attacking your own party.
So, you think she is just protecting her own backside ?
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A bit of self promotion Bob.
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Forget diversity this is just a dumb move by Labor. Fowler is I believe one of the poorest electorates in the country and parachuting in someone from the Northern Beachs will not go down well with the locals. Of course it’s a safe as houses Labor seat so there’s no worries about holding on to it, but it shows once again that the Labor party is still not listening to the electorate and has learnt nothing from the last Election. Their primary vote dropped in most of their iron clad safe Labor seats in Sydney. This should worrying them , but apparently not.
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What has messages from the last election got to do with this issue?  Ermm 
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Forget diversity this is just a dumb move by Labor. Fowler is I believe one of the poorest electorates in the country and parachuting in someone from the Northern Beachs will not go down well with the locals. Of course it’s a safe as houses Labor seat so there’s no worries about holding on to it, but it shows once again that the Labor party is still not listening to the electorate and has learnt nothing from the last Election. Their primary vote dropped in most of their iron clad safe Labor seats in Sydney. This should worrying them , but apparently not.

Don't forget Paul [designer suits] Keating though, lived in Woollahra represented Bass, poonced about in his Zegna kit and collected his antique clocks all the while flying the flag for the Hoi polloi of a struggling working class suburb. He couldn't identify with that demographic but it was a safe seat so away he went and the rest is history.
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My gripe with them is Labor is showing once again the total inability to read the room and listen to the people. Fowler is in the epicentre of the Covid outbreak , is under the strictest lockdown and is already very resentful about the perceived favouritism shown to the more affluent East and Northern Suburbs. Kristina Keneally is not a good idea.
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Labor here is like Democrats in America. They are the ones expected to do the right thing and the right expected to walk all over the rules or conventions. America is showing that it is beyond time for the left to get more gritty and fight back. Joel Fitzgibbon's call for Labor to move closer to the center is correct, and if that means making tougher decisions over ''morally correct'' decisions based on an imaginary code then so be it. This will be forgotten long after KK is elected and it is unlikely to sway a single pragmatic centrist voter. 
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Whos on twitter?
Is this you pt?

Bullying on Twitter has become unhinged. It's time to call out the personal, sexist attacks

 / By Leigh SalesLet's not duck the common thread here — it is overwhelmingly left-leaning Twitter users who are targeting ABC journalists for abuse. Of course, there are right-wing attacks too but the most ferocious campaigns are reserved for any journalist who questions, in even the most anodyne manner, the policies or public statements of Labor politicians, particularly the Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese, the Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews, the Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk and the West Australian Premier Mark McGowan.

All the journalists I mentioned above — notably some of the fairest, most experienced and non-partisan reporters in the country — are derided on Twitter as lickspittles for the Liberal Party. The scale of the pile-on is disturbing and it mostly passes without remark by any politician.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-14/twitter-social-media-bullies-political-journalism/100458714


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Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Originally posted by Baguette Baguette wrote:

Forget diversity this is just a dumb move by Labor. Fowler is I believe one of the poorest electorates in the country and parachuting in someone from the Northern Beachs will not go down well with the locals. Of course it’s a safe as houses Labor seat so there’s no worries about holding on to it, but it shows once again that the Labor party is still not listening to the electorate and has learnt nothing from the last Election. Their primary vote dropped in most of their iron clad safe Labor seats in Sydney. This should worrying them , but apparently not.

Don't forget Paul [designer suits] Keating though, lived in Woollahra represented Bass, poonced about in his Zegna kit and collected his antique clocks all the while flying the flag for the Hoi polloi of a struggling working class suburb. He couldn't identify with that demographic but it was a safe seat so away he went and the rest is history.Wacko


Keating grew up in Bankstown, a working-class suburb in western Sydney. His siblings include Anne Keating, a company director and businesswoman. Leaving De La Salle College—now known as LaSalle Catholic College—at the age of 14, Keating left high school rather than pursuing higher education, instead working as a pay clerk at the Sydney County Council's electricity distributor. Keating also attended Belmore Technical High School to further his education.

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I agree that Labor are similar to the Democrats, but I disagree with you on the reason why. I think in this country , just like the US, the working class feel they no longer have anyone to represent them. They feel their traditional party of choice has abandoned them. In both countries the working class are socially conservative and despise the “ woke” of this world , who unfortunately both the Democrats and Labor have embraced far too much. Don’t get me wrong , I’m old Labor to the core and want them to win an election! But how are they going to do that if they lose the working class? In Western Sydney they won’t get Lindsay back, are in real danger of losing Macquarie and even a seat like Greenway , around Blacktown, is in play to go Liberal. How the heck are they expecting to win a Federal election? This thing with Keneally just shows me they still don’t get it . Start shoring up your base Labor or enjoy opposition for the foreseeable future!
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