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Bonfield
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Poorly weighted? Seriously?
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djebel
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On the handicap ratings Kiwia is entitled to 5.5kgs plus the WFA allowance. On the other hand Charlevoix is fully exposed, Kawia is not. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Bonfield
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If Kiwia races up to his best and runs the 2400m, as I fully expect him to then he wins. I've rated him a $1.85 chance.
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3blindmice
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Yep on potential he's the one to beat but his best win was when dictating in slow time over 2km. Handicapper says he's 2kgs over but reality is he could have almost levelled that up by winning last time. R&S has him $1.95 (90%) if you take out the silly -3kg for the last start fiasco.
It's a matter of whether you want to take 5/4 an unproven 3yo or 11/4 the in-form race-hardened older horse with Williams back on. Back one save the other.
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Aurelius
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Kiwia looks pretty good to me.
$2.00 seems about right. |
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marscay
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Another 3yo coming out of that race called Dandre looks like he will stay all day, got smashed when Dunn bulldozed out but finished as strong as any.
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3blindmice
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Yep noticed that doing the form for Caulfield today Marscay. Not favoured at the weights compared to Kiwia but if he stays better that won't matter. Hayes named Charlevoix as his best this weekend.
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Magnolian Khan
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No Dwayne to get us beat today
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Sir Gov
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Good ride by Craig Williams today to get Kiwia home
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Magnolian Khan
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Resented the wind badly, but still too good for them
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djebel
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That was a perfect example of Australian racing.
The winner had all the breaks today whilst unlucky last start. No doubt at all the 5th horse should have won, but that is Aussie racing.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Magnolian Khan
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Being set for the Bendigo Cup
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Aurelius
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Bingo Bango......The Big Anchor gets home for many of us. Too Good, a very good ride. One of the biggest advantages the big trainers have are the Jockeys they have access too. |
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Magnolian Khan
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Back in action today
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djebel
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Throw enough you eventually hit.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Magnolian Khan
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Yep ok then He’s a pretty good horse this one |
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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Magnolian Khan
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Next 3 runs
Murtoa Cup Hamilton Cup Bendigo Cup |
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Magnolian Khan
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On today
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Magnolian Khan
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I love this horse
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Sunline
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Nice win.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Magnolian Khan
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Good looking horse
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Magnolian Khan
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Gee he was brave
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max manewer
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Was going up to overtake the other one about 11 times in the last 200.
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maccamax
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Next spring for him Max. He didn't finish it off today. It was his for the asking the way it was run. |
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Heavy10
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Was he? Only saw last 400 but had winner beat...i would say winner was brave |
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Bonfield
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I was unsure he runs a strong 2400m before the race and still unsure after. I realise he's won over the trip. Just think he's better over 2000m.
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AdaHunta
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Qewwwy is as tough as nails .........very hard to eyeball Bonfield
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Magnolian Khan
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He was up against a horse who ran 4th in a Melbourne Cup For a horse having its first prep I would say this is an enormous feat. He may have one more run this prep in the Queen Elizabeth before going out. All things considered, I would call him ‘brave’. He ran a super race, just beaten by a bloody good horse. |
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Gay3
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Apparently been up since April with only a 3 week swimming break so could well be starting to feel the pinch too.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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