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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stayer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Nov 2023 at 9:43am
Yes Victorians are free to express themselves about anything except the state government and its ideological agenda.
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SC, regardless of your opinion about Rita what has she igot to do with the current law, she is a journalist. As you have not addressed the current law in your post am I to assume you have no issues with the fact police can take no action.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baghdad Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Nov 2023 at 10:44am
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Yes Victorians are free to express themselves about anything except the state government and its ideological agenda.
How trueAngry
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“Unbelievably under current legislation in Victoria police are powerless to stop any protestors from unfurling banners of inappropriate images or stop chanting of hateful language. Police can only take action within the confines of the current law”

So, they can’t act, but they can?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Second Chance Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Nov 2023 at 11:48am
Conflation writ large Bob.

You and that appalling "journalist" are comparing apples and pears.  Specific COVID restrictions v banners and images.

ps Panihi failed her course at Monash Uni, picked up a pay-for-paper MBA from a 5th grade institution, and possesses no journalistic qualifications.  And they're her strong points.
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SC, once again what does Panahi's qualifications got to do with the police not enforcing an out-of-date law ?

One of your heroes Paul Keating never completed a university degree. My nephew not only was a political journalist when in Canberra for 15 years but was an author of several top selling biographies on politicians, and the senior advisor to Alexander Downer when he was Minister for Foreign Affairs then was persuaded by Malcolm Turnbull to be his senior political advisor, yet he never went to university.
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You must have missed my apple and pears analogy. Try reading it again.

And you still persist in dissing Andrews and Allan for their Arts degrees.  Sorry, you can't have it both ways mate.
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SC, forget about your distraction who or who has not a university degree, what do you think of the current law that prevents the police from ignoring race hate laws and taking action against the perpetrators.
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There is no law that prevents police from ignoring race hate laws.
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To quote the Deputy Commissioner of Police '" police are aware of recent race & hate chants and banners at rallies, and while they might be offensive to some, unfortunately they do not constitute a criminal offence.
Police can only act within the confines of existing law and the government has already acknowledged they will be reviewing the relevant legislation.
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To repeat: there is no law that prevents police from ignoring race hate laws,  as claimed by Panihi.
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SC, that reminds me of when you ducked out of answering my question about whether or not it's a good thing that alleged sexual offenders should be publicly named. Just because it's "The Law" doesn't mean it's a good law.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

To repeat: there is no law that prevents police from ignoring race hate laws,  as claimed by Panihi.

Since when has the Deputy Commissioner of Police have the surname of Panahi ? I believe his surname is Paterson.
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Victorian taxpayers were slugged more than $11m to pay the staff that failed to deliver the 2026 Commonwealth Games, including $500,000 to line the pockets of one senior bureaucrat.

The whopping salary spend was revealed in the Victoria 2026 organising committee’s annual report, which also highlighted that 10 other executives were paid upwards of $300,000.

In total, 32 executives enjoyed hefty pay packets upwards of $180,000.

As of June 30, the organisation had wasted more than $21m on costs associated with preparing the event.

Nearly $11m of that was to pay employees, while more than $10m went towards “other operating expenses”, according to figures compiled by the Auditor-General for the report.

The 13-member board, chaired by former Richmond Football Club president Peggy O’Neal, were paid a total of more than $700,000.

One member of that board took home up to $359,999, while the other twelve received payments less than $100,000. Five of the members received between $40,000 and $50,000.

The Victorian government spectacularly cancelled the 12-day sporting extravaganza on July 18, claiming the event had blown out from $2.6bn to nearly $7bn.

A parliamentary inquiry is now probing the fiasco, but Jacinta Allan, the now Premier and former Minister for the Commonwealth Games has refused to attend

Taxpayers will be charged a compensation fee of $380m to pull out of the Games, on top of at least another $200m already invested in the event.

Opposition sport, tourism and major events spokesman Sam Groth said the money should have been better spent.

“Not only did Jacinta Allan lie to Victorians about the Commonwealth Games, she squandered more than $600m of taxpayers money,” he said.

“Money that could have been spent on hospitals, schools, roads and other vital services at a time when Victorians are doing it tougher than ever.”

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Vic govt pays out $390m to save Victorian tax payers $4 billion.  Way to go team.
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SC, that is like saying, I lost $500 on the first race at Flemington, but if I had bet all day, I would have lost $2,000, so Iam really happy I only blew $500. 
Why did Andrews even want to hold the Games in those regional cities in the first place? 
Simple answer to that, he wanted to con regional voters by putting the carrot of holding the Games in regional towns to retain power.
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Being intoxicated in public is longer a crime, with Victoria to adopt a "health-led" response that will focus on targeted support.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-news-public-drunkeness-laws-to-be-scrapped-on-melbourne-cup-day/201183a2-3452-4b91-a22e-5e0b3553491c

Finally, a Labor initiative that Bob can support.Party
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Tlaz, I think you meant to post it is NO longer a crime, It will not affect me as I am a half-glass of wine a-day- man with my evening meal however next time you get down to Melbourne you will have no worries.Wink
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Moderation in our time of life Bobby is the way to go Smile don't know about half the crowd at the Cup today though . Wink
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Who services this massive debt & what happens if one or some of them call it in?

Victorian State Budget: Driving down the Deficit

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24 May 2023 — However, Victoria's net debt will rise from $135.4b in 2023-24 to $171.4b by 2027

NSW: Treasurer Daniel Mookhey has prepped the state for more cuts and new taxes as he embarks on a budget repair program after COVID-19 and election-year spending under the former Perrottet government pushed the state's deficit to $10 billion in 2022-2023 and net debt to $80 billion.18 Sept 2023

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Sep 26, 2023  Retiring Premier Daniel Andrews is leaving behind a nasty financial cocktail for his successors and future generations of Victorians.

Victoria’s non-financial public sector gross debt is forecast to blow out to $239 billion by 2026-27, just as global borrowing costs for governments have hit the highest rate in 15 years due to inflation angst.

Andrews exits with the second-largest state facing annual interest costs of $8 billion and rising.

Victoria has the highest public sector debt-to-revenue ratio of the states and the worst credit rating at AA, after being downgraded two notches by S&P Global Ratings during his world-record pandemic lockdown.

Gross debt has more than quadrupled from below $50 billion less than a decade ago.

To be sure, Andrews “big build” delivered lots of roads, bridges and tunnels with his borrowing binge to fund union-dominated infrastructure projects. Now, projects are facing massive cost blowouts and the bill will need to be paid.

He has left Victoria’s budget in an unsustainable position, after splurging big during the pandemic lockdowns and significantly expanding the size of the public service.

It’s a case study in a strongman premier running the state without any accountability from a hopeless Liberal opposition.

Andrews banned gas exploration and extraction, jeopardising the state’s energy security. He blamed the big gas exporters.

Andrews committed eye-watering sums to pet projects such as the controversial Suburban Rail Loop that avoided any rigorous cost-benefit analysis. It was devised by PwC consultants before the 2018 state election and bypassed the traditional public service assessment.

It was classic Andrews: doing deals with his political mates and riding rough shod over financial due diligence.

He blew $1.1 billion cancelling Melbourne’s East West Link road project and $380 million on compensation for cancelling the 2026 Commonwealth Games.

Victorians will now face decades of higher taxes.

The states have such terrible tax bases that it will inevitably be employers and property owners who will be hit with higher payroll and land taxes.

Big employers are already paying billions extra for a state “mental health levy” – paradoxically paying for the social damage caused by Andrews’ lockdowns.

Victoria’s recent tax hit list of landlords, Airbnb owners, holiday home owners and private schools will be only the tip of the iceberg to get the state’s finances under control.

The $239 billion gross debt now faces interest rates of about 5 per cent when it is refinanced, compared to 1 per cent during the pandemic.

But Andrews blamed former Reserve Bank of Australia governor Philip Lowe for encouraging the states to borrow big during the pandemic.

Andrews went cap in hand in April for a financial bail-out from the federal government, but Prime Minister Anthony Albanese politely declined.

Memories of early 1990s

Privatisations will be necessary – counter to Andrews’ 2022 election ploy to “bring back” the government-owned State Electricity Commission to invest in green energy projects. Ten months after the election, Andrews is leaving and the SEC is nowhere to be seen.

Victoria’s economy has been largely built on a massive population expansion. But in per person terms, gross household disposable income is languishing at seventh out of the eight states and territories, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

The financial demise of Victoria is reminiscent of the early 1990s when the stricken State Bank of Victoria, its merchant banking arm Tricontinental and the collapsed Pyramid Building Society rendered the state almost bankrupt under the Labor government of John Cain and Joan Kirner.

Liberal premier Jeff Kennet turned around the state. His Labor successors Steve Bracks and John Brumby continued responsible fiscal management.

But the socialist Andrews has demonstrated a lack of respect for taxpayer money and for the financial health of Victorians – current and future.

As political commentator and former Kennet adviser Stephen Mayne observed: “Victoria’s finances are much worse than when John Cain quit, but somehow Dan has managed to leave on his own terms and govern without being held to account for imperilling the state’s public sector viability going forward.”

Andrews has left an unprecedented financial legacy for Victorians that will be felt for decades. Consequences, without accountability.

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As each day goes by going by refusing to attend the Victorian Upper House Enquiry into the Commonwealth Games fiasco Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan is digging herself into a bigger hole.

The Allan government has been ordered to hand over key documents which could uncover details behind its decision to cancel the Commonwealth Games.

In a letter revealed for the first time, Ms Allan wrote to the committee on October 7 claiming executive privilege over evidence.

Now a summons has been issued by the committee for all briefs provided to ministers responsible for the Department of Premier and Cabinet, the Department of Treasury and Finance, the Department of Jobs, Skills, Industry and Regions, and their predecessors.

They have until November 30 to comply with the order.

In the October 7 letter Ms Allan said the government would maintain a consistent approach to executive privilege meaning a range of documents and witnesses would be protected from disclosure.

They would include any evidence that would reveal the deliberative processes of Cabinet or Executive Government or “otherwise genuinely jeopardize the necessary relationship of trust and confidence between a Minister and public officials”.

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More importantly, what's her golf handicap and will she be black-balled (or is that black-labia'd) by your usual self-entitled rusted on rabid right wing peninsular golfers.  Shocked
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Victorian taxpayers are covering the salaries of dozens of Commonwealth Games bureaucrats who are being paid to do nothing.

Former premier Daniel Andrews announced Victoria would no longer host the 2026 Commonwealth Games in a shock decision in July.

However it has now been  revealed the state government is still forking out millions in taxpayer funds to cover the salaries of at least 50 employees hired to organize and run the now non-existent event.

The staff have been offered generous exit packages including a minimum of five months' pay, with up to 10 months for long-term staff.

But government bureaucrats don’t have to decide whether to accept the package until the end of January 2024 – more than six months since Victoria pulled out of hosting the event.

A government spokesperson has told the Herald Sun 40 of the 90 employees in the Office of the Commonwealth Games had left or given notice that they would quit the public service. The rest remain working on Games-related projects.

According to the 2026 Commonwealth Games organising committee’s annual report – released earlier this month – taxpayers spent almost $11 million on the organising committee's employee costs last financial year alone.

The report, released on November 1, revealed there were 32 executives working to deliver the games who were paid a minimum of $180,000 per year. Ten of the bureaucrats were paid in excess of $300,000, while one was paid more than $500,000.
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A veritable p1ss in the ocean, courtesy of a Hun/Sky/Institute of Public Affairs/Andrew Bolt attempt to continue and conflate the issue with little information that wasn't already available 3 months ago.

Thank goodness the Government saved rate and taxpayers $4 billion.  Star
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SC, not too bad from those bureaucrats and hangers on who are on the gravy train.
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Contracted personnel.  Cancellation of contracts would require financial redress (paying out of contracts) and result in no saving whatsoever.  
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The Vic government should just shrug their shoulders and say there isn't much they can do about it.

That worked for the rorted jobkeeper payments.
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Is she the latest girl in NZ?
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Jacinda Ardern NZ
Jacinta Allan Vic
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No comment on my post bobby?
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