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The beginning of the end of affordable housing in Australia happened in 2000.

Before then, the median house price was 3.5 times average household income, and house prices had been increasing at roughly the same rate, on average, as both incomes and GDP, or 3-4 per cent per annum.

In 2000, house prices went from increasing at roughly the same rate as both incomes and the economy, to double that rate, or an average of 6-7 per cent per annum, compound.

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As dozens of reviews, studies and inquiries have found, there are many causes of Australia’s housing affordability crisis, in particular immigration and restrictions on supply from NIMBYism and poor transport.

But the crisis began in 2000, so the first question that must be answered in any examination of it is – what happened in 1999? Confused

The answer is that the rate of capital gains tax (CGT) was halved in September that year by John Howard and Peter Costello.

The idea was a recommendation in the Review of Business Taxation conducted by three businessmen who would benefit from it – John Ralph, Rick Allert and Bob Joss. In other words, it was not independent, but conflicted.

As I write in the Quarterly Essay: “That was a big, radical tax reform in itself, but it was Australia’s unique system of negative gearing plus the abolition of inheritance taxes twenty years earlier that really made it work.”

The 50 per cent CGT discount supercharged the impact of negative gearing and led to investment property becoming everyone’s tax dodge.


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https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2023/11/27/housing-capital-albanese-chalmers


https://www.quarterlyessay.com.au/essay/2023/11/the-great-divide/extract


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Originally posted by Plastic letters Plastic letters wrote:

Groundhog Day of irrelevance 


You're too far gone. Please ignore the facts.Tongue
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Never denied those facts. Are you that thick that you haven’t comprehended that the 100 times I’ve said it.

Yes, the ratio makes it so much harder but with the real desire it’s achievable.

 I comment in the litany I& affordable housing I have shown you?…..I know why you haven’t Wink
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 No comment on the litany of affordable housing I have shown you?…..I know why you haven’t Wink

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Sorry, 1 or infrequently 2 bedroom rentals of about 5 squares each in dated Western Sydney buildings doesn't quite cut it.
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Try getting one of plastic's $600 a week places. There's probably 50 people lined up for every one.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Sorry, 1 or infrequently 2 bedroom rentals of about 5 squares each in dated Western Sydney buildings doesn't quite cut it.

What a load of rubbish and greedy self centred sop. Perfectly nice and acceptable dwellings. Darling & Epping western Sydney…..you didn’t even lookLOL 

But  hey, not 2 minutes from your work and your SUV and 85 inch LED may take up too much room.Wink
 
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Well I'm living it with my children and they were accused of lack of motivation to work.  Which I proved was untrue but no response to that reply. 

Well a flat with three beds in Potts Point goes for $1425 furnished.  That seems to be three times what I earn a week.

Or in my area a 4 bed going for $800 or $750 a week.  Only $300 over what I earn.  Or a three bed apartment in the same area going for $650 a week.  Still $150 over my salary at the moment.

Well I could afford a 2 bed for $430 or another for $500 but then I wouldn't eat or pay any bills.

And yes I've looked the above properties up online as I'm not looking to rent at the moment.
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Originally posted by Plastic letters Plastic letters wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Sorry, 1 or infrequently 2 bedroom rentals of about 5 squares each in dated Western Sydney buildings doesn't quite cut it.

What a load of rubbish and greedy self centred sop. Perfectly nice and acceptable dwellings. Darling & Epping western Sydney…..you didn’t even lookLOL   But  hey, not 2 minutes from your work and your SUV and 85 inch LED may take up too much room.Wink 

Forget the smiley faces, bottom line is they're tiny flats in awful buildings for the most part in very ordinary suburbs.  Something a single person could afford but otherwise a useless amenity for a couple let alone a family.


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You’re right. Vaucluse, with views, 6 beds and a Bentley.
Just what they should walk intoLOL


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So tell me SC, seeing as tlaz & Afros won’t, what should a couple in their early or mid twenties have for their first home.
Give me an example of a suburb and price with associated lifestyle 
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Tiny flat in an awful building. Your kiddingLOL

$600 per week



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$520 per week
Carlingford, one of your awful suburbs. What a hovel….totally unliveable LOL











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I can do that.  I have a daughter who because she is a tour guide can't get a loan.  She saves and is up to $100K but can't afford anything.

Most go to  auction but the few in the district.  Kingswood (a cheaper area to Emu Plains) a 3 bed house $880K to $920,000.  A three bed a Cranebrook $848,000.  Another under contract $829,000-$879,000. 

But plenty also over the $1,000,000.  And we are a good hour away from Sydney on the fast train (missing lots of stops).  Not near the beaches or the sea breezes.  But we bought out here at the foot of the mountains because it is a greener area than around Blacktown or Parramatta.  And we love the mountains.

But both daughters looking to get into the market can't get a good enough loan from the banks.  As I said one was told to go get married!
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And your $520 a week is over what I earn also so I'd still be in trouble.
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Furious, that’s a wonderful effort to save that. She should be praised

What’s wrong with 5 to 10 minutes  down 5he road towards the city. A great townhouse. 
From what you’ve mentioned , she’s young. Nothing wrong with this as a starter.
Easier if she has a partner
Only 550 to 590k

Nice units are even cheaper




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