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Tlazolteotl ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 30159 |
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The beginning of the end of affordable housing in Australia happened in 2000. Before then, the median house price was 3.5 times average household income, and house prices had been increasing at roughly the same rate, on average, as both incomes and GDP, or 3-4 per cent per annum. In 2000, house prices went from increasing at roughly the same rate as both incomes and the economy, to double that rate, or an average of 6-7 per cent per annum, compound. ... As dozens of reviews, studies and inquiries have found, there are many causes of Australia’s housing affordability crisis, in particular immigration and restrictions on supply from NIMBYism and poor transport. But the crisis began in 2000, so the first question that must be answered in any examination of it is – what happened in 1999? The answer is that the rate of capital gains tax (CGT) was halved in September that year by John Howard and Peter Costello. The idea was a recommendation in the Review of Business Taxation conducted by three businessmen who would benefit from it – John Ralph, Rick Allert and Bob Joss. In other words, it was not independent, but conflicted. As I write in the Quarterly Essay: “That was a big, radical tax reform in itself, but it was Australia’s unique system of negative gearing plus the abolition of inheritance taxes twenty years earlier that really made it work.” The 50 per cent CGT discount supercharged the impact of negative gearing and led to investment property becoming everyone’s tax dodge. Alan Kohler ... https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2023/11/27/housing-capital-albanese-chalmers https://www.quarterlyessay.com.au/essay/2023/11/the-great-divide/extract |
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Tlazolteotl ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 30159 |
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You're too far gone. Please ignore the facts.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Online Points: 2778 |
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Never denied those facts. Are you that thick that you haven’t comprehended that the 100 times I’ve said it.
Yes, the ratio makes it so much harder but with the real desire it’s achievable. I comment in the litany I& affordable housing I have shown you?…..I know why you haven’t
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Online Points: 2778 |
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No comment on the litany of affordable housing I have shown you?…..I know why you haven’t ![]() |
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Second Chance ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 42922 |
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Sorry, 1 or infrequently 2 bedroom rentals of about 5 squares each in dated Western Sydney buildings doesn't quite cut it.
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Tlazolteotl ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 30159 |
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Try getting one of plastic's $600 a week places. There's probably 50 people lined up for every one.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Online Points: 2778 |
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What a load of rubbish and greedy self centred sop. Perfectly nice and acceptable dwellings. Darling & Epping western Sydney…..you didn’t even look ![]() But hey, not 2 minutes from your work and your SUV and 85 inch LED may take up too much room. ![]() |
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furious ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 24317 |
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Well I'm living it with my children and they were accused of lack of motivation to work. Which I proved was untrue but no response to that reply.
Well a flat with three beds in Potts Point goes for $1425 furnished. That seems to be three times what I earn a week. Or in my area a 4 bed going for $800 or $750 a week. Only $300 over what I earn. Or a three bed apartment in the same area going for $650 a week. Still $150 over my salary at the moment. Well I could afford a 2 bed for $430 or another for $500 but then I wouldn't eat or pay any bills. And yes I've looked the above properties up online as I'm not looking to rent at the moment.
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Second Chance ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 42922 |
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Forget the smiley faces, bottom line is they're tiny flats in awful buildings for the most part in very ordinary suburbs. Something a single person could afford but otherwise a useless amenity for a couple let alone a family. |
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Online Points: 2778 |
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You’re right. Vaucluse, with views, 6 beds and a Bentley.
Just what they should walk into ![]() |
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Online Points: 2778 |
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So tell me SC, seeing as tlaz & Afros won’t, what should a couple in their early or mid twenties have for their first home.
Give me an example of a suburb and price with associated lifestyle
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Online Points: 2778 |
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Online Points: 2778 |
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$520 per week
Carlingford, one of your awful suburbs. What a hovel….totally unliveable ![]() |
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furious ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 24317 |
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I can do that. I have a daughter who because she is a tour guide can't get a loan. She saves and is up to $100K but can't afford anything.
Most go to auction but the few in the district. Kingswood (a cheaper area to Emu Plains) a 3 bed house $880K to $920,000. A three bed a Cranebrook $848,000. Another under contract $829,000-$879,000. But plenty also over the $1,000,000. And we are a good hour away from Sydney on the fast train (missing lots of stops). Not near the beaches or the sea breezes. But we bought out here at the foot of the mountains because it is a greener area than around Blacktown or Parramatta. And we love the mountains. But both daughters looking to get into the market can't get a good enough loan from the banks. As I said one was told to go get married!
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furious ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 24317 |
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And your $520 a week is over what I earn also so I'd still be in trouble.
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Online Points: 2778 |
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Furious, that’s a wonderful effort to save that. She should be praised
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