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I disagree Djebel,

He is by Maurice who did well in his 1st season and now is topping the second crop sires.

His dam is by Redoutes Choice and his grand-dam gave rise to multiple winner Love Conquers All and 2yo winner She's Meaner who foaled Lean Mean Machine.

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 he is probably not worth as much overseas as his female line is C4-Colonial but you'd have to give him a chance here. Love Conquers All hasn't been a good stallion overall but will be interesting to see how Lean Mean Machine goes I think he has 1st runners this coming season).

He would win at a mile like he needed further and these are the type of racehorses who can go on and become sires of good staying types. He may end up being another Zabeel type. Someone smart from NZ should snap him up and stand him there but there is always the chance that the Japanese may buy him and introduce more Redoutes/Danehill and Colonial blood into their lines.
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Maher spoke to News Corp at Eagle Farm on Tuesday morning and insisted Hitotsu’s prognosis was good and his racing future not in doubt despite sustaining a suspensory ligament injury which has ruled him out of the spring.

Asked about the circumstances of the injury to the star three-year-old colt, Maher said:

“He was just in light training, it is very rare for a horse to do something like that in light training so maybe he has done it in the paddock or annoyed it.

“It’s obviously not ideal, but I’m sure he will make a full recovery.

“His prognosis is really good, he will just miss the spring and he will be back for the (2023) autumn.”

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Unlike Incentivise , they have a real balancing act to overcome here , that being he is a bull ( and a sizeable one ) and will fill out along with maturing temperment over rehab , I think they'll pull the pin at the slightest sign of a flare up .
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Oh dear I really liked this horse.  
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Terrible news. 

Really don't know what to make of the form around this horse, fantastic training performance to go Derby/Guineas/Derby  in consecutive runs but just not sure what he's beaten. Lightsaber, Bons a Pearla, Allegron, Benaud etc. Would have loved to see Hitotsu v Anamoe over 2000 in the Guineas.

Hoping he races on so we can see his potential fulfilled.
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Connections resisted the temptation to bring back Hitotsu earlier, with the three-time Group 1 winner having subsequently returned to Ciaron Maher and David Eustace's Ballarat stable more than a week ago.

The Australian Guineas and ATC Derby winner in his previous preparation is currently undergoing a seven-week pre-training program after suffering a suspensory injury in May.

"He wasn't that far off, we could have bought him back four or six weeks ago, but we decided to just go a bit slower with him and there is no rush now we missed the spring," Kheir explained.

"He has reacted really well to the treatment and everyone is very happy and optimistic with him coming back for the autumn.

"He would probably be on an All-Star Mile or Australian Cup campaign and work from there towards Sydney."

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Apparently retired.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Unlike Incentivise , they have a real balancing act to overcome here , that being he is a bull ( and a sizeable one ) and will fill out along with maturing temperment over rehab , I think they'll pull the pin at the slightest sign of a flare up .
As a gelding they may have persevered , but a dual Derby winner and a lightly raced entire they may salvage something , but with this injury I'm not surprised they've pulled the pin. G. L. Star
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Infection ends career of multiple Group 1 winner


Freakish Group 1 superstar Hitotsu has run his last race and will be retired to stud after sustaining a nasty infection.

The Ciaron Maher and David Eustace-trained galloper won the Victoria Derby in the 2021 spring before claiming the Australian Derby in Sydney in the 2022 autumn as well as a memorable Australian Guineas triumph.

A suspensory ligament injury ruled him out of the last spring carnival and now a series of setbacks, most recently a serious leg infection, will cause his shock retirement.

"Hitotsu got a cut to his leg and then it got infected," part-owner Ozzie Kheir said.

"They have flushed it (the infection) out about a week ago and he is stable.

"We resisted the temptation of retiring him after his remarkable three-year-old season to stud as Ciaron and Dave were adamant that he had so much more upside and we hadn't seen the best of him.

"Unfortunately plans in racing don't often go to script.

"Hitotsu has taken us on an amazing journey in such a short period of time and showed that special horses can be trained in a very unconventional way and that's all credit to the stable that weren't afraid to try something different.

"We will now start the process of finding him the best place to continue his next chapter and follow his progeny for many years to come."

Co-trainer Maher said he had a heavy heart when speaking about the retirement news.

"While it's incredibly disappointing, he provided us with some of the most memorable moments we've enjoyed on a racetrack in his short career," Maher said.

"He is one of the most talented horses I've ever trained and I hope one day I can train his progeny."

Hitotsu has been retired ????

We certainly won't forget his 2022 autumn campaign. ????

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Meanwhile, another Kheir-owned and Maher and Eustace-trained rising star has sustained a tendon injury and is out of the autumn carnival.

The future of Yonce, who has won six of her seven starts, will be determined after talks between the trainers and connections. It is possible she could be retired to be a broodmare.

"Yonce will not take part in the autumn as she sustained a tendon injury late last week," Kheir said.

"It is extremely disappointing for all involved as she was reportedly going better than her last preparation. After her seven-start first preparation, she hasn't had things go her way.

"In the spring she had a freak accident in the float and now this.

"We are yet to decide if we retire her as a broodmare or continue racing at this stage.

"The injury is only minor but like all tendons its difficult to return back to your best after 1.5 years off racing."

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There was nothing unconventional about the way he was campaigned. 


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Let's forget Wendy Kelly and just refer to the two campaigns for the Maher team.

Bred to go 2400m but debuted and won at his first start over 1350m.  That's just a trifle unconventional.
After winning that extremely lowly event went straight into a Group 1 at its next start.  That's just a trifle unconventional.
Jumped up from 1600 to 2500m in the Victoria Derby.  That's just a trifle unconventional.
Went from 1350 into the 2500 Derby just 7 weeks after first resuming for Maher.  That's a just trifle unconventional.
Resumed in Autumn over 1600 and jumped up to 2400 at his next and final start.  That's just a trifle unconventional.

But other than that his preparation was entirely conventional.  Wink
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It's the Australian way that is unconventional. 
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Unconventional or not, he's still retired with a record 99.9% of owners can only dream of Clap
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

It's the Australian way that is unconventional. 

None of that stuff is conventional in your beloved UK.  Ermm
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

It's the Australian way that is unconventional. 

None Little of that stuff is conventional in your beloved UK.  

Or more to the point, your idea of a typical Australian staying campaign is 1400, 1600, 2000, 2400 with two weeks between each run.  Hitotsu's campaign was entirely different.
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According to a racing scribe , Hitotsu is the first horse since Monte Carlo's unplaced run in the 1956 Caulfield Guineas to have won the VRC Derby at his following start , history shows it's a hard ask , even more so now at 1600 to 2500 , like Cairon , Frank Dalton was a master trainer of stayers ( Monte Carlo )  65 years , a long time .
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Carioca, it's entirely fortunate that TBV has so many insightful (read old) buggers to provide knowledge gained over so many years.  Thumbs Up

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I am with Carioca,s insightfull information.  What he dont know aint worth knowing.LOL
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It's a shame we didn't get to see him in his 4yo season, it sounded like they were willing to think outside the square with him so something like Cox Plate first up could have happened, perhaps an autumn prep of All Star Mile first up followed by the Tancred or QE2.

Anyway thats how the cookie crumbles I suppose.
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A shame he can make so much at stud.  It doesn’t sound like it’s serious injury, just timing. Money rules I get it
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Given his owners, to have been unable to race for a year & 2 major carnivals, the injury would certainly have been serious.
Had he raced poorly & broken down again this year, I imagine the same outcry would've been aired i.e. 'money hungry Censoreds' Owners can't win!!
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Hitotsu going home to start stud career

Former star three-year-old Hitotsu will return to his birthplace to stand his first season at stud.

Hitotsu won the Victoria Derby in 2021 before returning to win the Australian Guineas and Australian Derby in the autumn, emulating the deeds of 1990s star Mahogany.

Unfortunately, injury ended Hitotsu's brilliant career after only eight starts, which produced three Group 1 wins and more than $3m in prizemoney for the son of Japanese star Maurice.

Arrowfield Stud boss John Messara announced the former Ciaron Maher and David Eustace-trained stallion would stand at the Hunter Valley property this spring.

"Each of Hitotsu's three Group 1 victories is an exceptional performance, but together they put him in the very sparsely populated category of history-making champion," Messara said.

"We're proud to stand him as an Arrowfield-bred star returning home."

Hitotsu will join his sire Maurice, champion sire Snitzel, Dundeel and The Autumn Sun on the Arrowfield roster.

Arrowfield has set Hitotsu's first season service fee at $22,000.

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Arrowfield are outstanding. They have roster of types every stallion station should have. 
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That is a very reasonable stud fee!
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If not for the injury, there would probably be a 2-3 more G1 wins and triple that fee on him, so I agree with VOYAGER there!
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For a couple of seasons, then they sell them off to elsewhere if they don't get numbers
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