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    Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 10:04pm
Has we see them enter the Australian system I will list them here.

Be interesting to note just how many go forward or backwards down here rather than just speculating.
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With an official rating of 110 when in the UK Zaaki is considered a high grade import despite what Poms might want people to believe. 
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Sound was a high grade German colt when he arrived and despite only winning 2 races down here can be considered a success. 
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At one stage, Sinawann had an official rating of 115 although it had dropped to 111 for his final start in Ireland before coming here.
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Lloyd Williams has brought a few highly rated over hasn't he? Sea Moon is the first I can think of.  

Voila Ici was a dual G1 winner in Italy before coming out here and failing to fire a shot.
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The Annabel Neasham trained OTI owned, 105 rated listed winning gelding Reve De Vol is dead after one start in Australia in the Golden Eagle.

I wonder what happened ? 
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SOUTHERN LIGHTS (IRE)

4yo Brown Horse
D.O.B: 23-Apr-2018
by SEA THE STARS (IRE)  from OWNWAN (USA)
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StatusActive
Owner’s Details Fung Family Racing, Northerly Holdings Pty Ltd, Australian Bloodstock, Mr J Wilson, Mr B J Francis, Mr M P Barker, Galaday Pty Ltd, Heritage Brothers Racing, Mr S Lo Proto, Mr A G Walters, Mr A J Bate, M B R R, Mr S J Kyriazis, Mr J Lovett
Stewards EmbargoesNone on record
Last Gear Change*22-Dec-2021, Stallion Chain, First Time, Comment: Mounting yard
TrainerMs Annabel Neasham (Warwick Farm)
Racing ColoursRoyal Blue, White Horseshoe, Black And White Checked Sleeves And Cap
CareerSummary: 5-1:1:0    Prizemoney: $20,199    
Min/Max-Dist-Win: 2012/2012     1st Up: 2:1-1-0    2nd Up: 1:0-0-0    
Track: 0:0-0-0    Dist: 1:0-1-0    Track/Dist: 0:0-0-0
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 4:1-1-0     Soft: 1:0-0-0     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0
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The guy above had a Official rating in the uk of 104 which is listed level.

He gets to go through his grades down here with a starting point of BM78. 
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

The Annabel Neasham trained OTI owned, 105 rated listed winning gelding Reve De Vol is dead after one start in Australia in the Golden Eagle.

I wonder what happened ? 

Saw this on OTI site. Have to be a member to read what it says though I think. Monday Dec 20th


Insurance claim for Reve De Vol has been approved
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Stunning pick up. This guy just happens to have Reve De Vol form.

Maddie Raymond has an eye on Australian Cup and Queen Elizabeth with Earlswood

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EarlswoodEarlswoodImage: Getty

Maddie Raymond's work with a tricky import has led to the Warrnambool trainer taking delivery of a possible Australian Cup or Queen Elizabeth Stakes hopeful.

Raymond’s patience with Wentwood led to the import going from a St Arnaud Cup winner to a Group 3 Bendigo Cup winner in the space of 12 months.

Now Wentwood’s connections have given Raymond the chance to reach higher levels with talented galloper Earlswood.

Earlswood was a dual Group 3 winner in Ireland and finished fourth to Hurricane Lane in last year’s Group 1 Irish Derby before his transfer to Raymond’s stable.

“He’s got quite good overseas form,” Raymond said.

“He’s more of a staying type but he’s got a good turn of foot.”

The Irish Derby winner Hurricane Lane went on to show the strength of the form with Group 1 wins in France and England in subsequent outings.

Raymond was thrilled to start working with Earlswood, the impressive winner of the Group 3 Royal Whip Stakes at the Curragh last year.

“It’s super exciting to get him,” Raymond said. “I never thought 12 or 18 months ago that I’d have a horse like him in the stable.

“He’s been here about six weeks and has acclimatised really well.

“He’s a really exciting prospect to have in the stable.”

Raymond said she had not decided on a starting point for Earlswood’s Australian career.

Races at Caulfield in February are possible first-up assignments while the All-Star Mile and Australian Cup could also land on Earlswood’s autumn agenda.

“We’ll play it by ear a bit with him. We might run him first-up in the Carlyon (Cup) over a mile,” Raymond said.

“If he happens to run really well over the mile, we might have to have a look at the All-Star Mile.

“If he needs further, then we’ll go to the Peter Young (Stakes over 1800m).

“The Australian Cup has been in the back of my mind since he arrived here and we’ve been working on that, trying to learn a bit more about him.

“There’s also the Queen Elizabeth (Stakes) in Sydney.”

Earlswood is a $51 chance in All-Star Mile, but the recent arrival is not in TAB’s pre-nomination Australian Cup or Queen Elizabeth Stakes entries.
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This guy is a maiden but he has a official rating in the UK of 102. He would not have been cheap.

GWAN SO (GB)Bay colt 2019 
Ulysses
Chestnut 2013		Galileo
Bay 1998		Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981		Northern Dancer
Bay 1961		Nearctic
Natalma		1954
1957		14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975		Bold Reason
Special		1968
1969		19-b
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989		Miswaki
Chestnut 1978		Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal		1970
1971		13-c
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978		Lombard
Anatevka		1967
1969		1-d
9-h
Light Shift
Bay 2004		Kingmambo
Bay 1990		Mr Prospector
Bay 1970		Raise a Native
Gold Digger		1961
1962		8-f
13-c
Miesque
Bay 1984		Nureyev
Pasadoble		1977
1979		5-h
20>
Lingerie
Bay 1988		Shirley Heights
Bay 1975		Mill Reef
Hardiemma		1968
1969		22-d
1-l
Northern Trick
Chestnut 1981		Northern Dancer
Trick Chick		1961
1966		2-d
4-m
Regal Heiress
Bay 2008		Pivotal
Chestnut 1993		Polar Falcon
Brown 1987		Nureyev
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Special		1961
1969		2-d
5-h
Marie d'Argonne
Chestnut 1981		Jefferson
Mohair		1967
1974		1-t
8-c
Fearless Revival
Chestnut 1987		Cozzene
Grey 1980		Caro
Ride the Trails		1967
1971		3-o
4-m
Stufida
Bay 1981		Bustino
Zerbinetta		1971
1970		1-w
7>
Regal Rose
Bay 1998		Danehill
Bay 1986		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom		1961
1968		2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981		His Majesty
Spring Adieu		1968
1974		4-d
2-d
Ruthless Rose
Brown 1985		Conquistador Cielo
Bay 1979		Mr Prospector
K D Princess		1970
1971		13-c
8-h
Unfurled
Bay 1974		Hoist the Flag
Lemon Souffle		1968
1958		5-i
20-a
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GWAN SO (GB)

3yo Bay Colt
D.O.B: 05-Apr-2019
by ULYSSES (IRE)  from REGAL HEIRESS (GB)
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StatusPending
Owner’s Details Mystery Downs, Mrs C M Cook, Mr M J McFarlane, Mr T C Eddy, Mr D P Hickey, Mr S M Gregory, Mr J F Webb, Mr D F Degenhardt, Mr G J Williamson, Mr T P Giardina, Mr M G Williams, Walker Racing & Bloodstock, Borthwick Ramsay, Mr N McFarlane, Mr G J P Van Ameyden, Mr A J Willoughby, Mr D Bowman, Ms A S Neasham
Stewards EmbargoesNone on record
Last Gear Change*None on record.
TrainerMs Annabel Neasham (Warwick Farm)
Racing ColoursMaroon, White Crossed Sashes, Yellow Armbands And Cap
CareerSummary: 5-0:2:2    Prizemoney: $23,262    
1st Up: 1:0-0-0    2nd Up: 1:0-1-0    
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 4:0-2-1     Soft: 1:0-0-1     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0
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Last start German winner now in the care of Waller, trialling at Cranbourne over 1190m tomorrow

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4yo Chestnut Horse
D.O.B: 07-Feb-2018
by AMARON (GB)  from QUINTESSA (GER)
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StatusPending
Owner’s Details Mr A J A Bosma, Mr A J Laurenson, Mrs J A R Parry, Mr G E Harris, Mrs J E Harris, Mrs L Robinson, Mr K Robinson, Mr W W Flaunty, Mr J Yeo, Mr J Connell, Mr B F Phee, Mr T J Pankhurst, Mr B R Broomhead, Mr G M Jurie, Mrs A F Focas, Mr D Focas, Mr PR Baker, Mr B L Page, Mr J Matamaki
Stewards EmbargoesNone on record
Last Gear Change*None on record.
TrainerMr Chris Waller (Flemington)
Racing Colours
CareerSummary: 7-3:1:1    Prizemoney: $41,123     
Min/Max-Dist-Win: 1850/2200     1st Up: 3:1-1-1    2nd Up: 2:1-0-0     
Track: 0:0-0-0    Dist: 0:0-0-0    Track/Dist: 0:0-0-0 
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 5:2-0-1     Soft: 2:1-1-0     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0
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It will be really interesting to see the 2 well credentialed imports that kick off their autumn campaigns in the Carlyon Cup tomorrow.

* Earlswood - dual G3 winner in Ireland 

* Normandy Bridge - G3 win & G1 placing in France
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NORMANDY BRIDGE (FR)

4yo Black Horse
D.O.B: 30-Apr-2018
by LE HAVRE (IRE)  from AIGLONNE (USA)
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StatusActive
Owner’s Details Mr G T Ryan, Mr C L Marks, Mr W G Moore, Mr J P Henderson, Mr K J Weight, Mr M N Pratt
Stewards EmbargoesNone on record
Last Gear Change*09-Feb-2022, Ear Muffs (Pre-Race Only), First Time
TrainerCiaron Maher & David Eustace (Cranbourne)
Racing ColoursRoyal Blue, White Checks, Green Sleeves And Cap
CareerSummary: 6-2:1:0    Prizemoney: $144,451    
Min/Max-Dist-Win: 1600/1600     1st Up: 2:1-0-0    2nd Up: 2:1-0-0    
Track: 0:0-0-0    Dist: 4:2-1-0    Track/Dist: 0:0-0-0
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 1:0-0-0     Soft: 3:1-0-0     Heavy: 2:1-1-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0
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Both clearly have talent.  Even given different surfaces, anything that might slightly worry you about them in the following?


YearRaceGradeWinnerTrainerWinner Fam.Dist.2nd3rdTimeComment
2020PRIX THOMAS BRYONG3NORMANDY BRIDGES NIGGE16-g1600 MTHOMERYANNAVAL CROWN1m 47.85 
2020CRITERIUM INTERNATIONALG1VAN GOGH15AIDAN P. OBRIEN4-n1600 MTNORMANDY BRIDGEJADOOMI1:48.70HY BY 4 LENGTHS
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YearRaceGradeWinnerTrainerWinner Fam.Dist.2nd3rdTimeComment
2021GALLINULE STAKESG3EARLSWOOD2J P MURTAGH21-a10 FARTURO TOSCANINISNAPRAETEREA2:16.38SF
2021ROYAL WHIP STAKESG3EARLSWOOD2JOHN P MURTAGH21-a10 FREVE DE VOL2FINANS BAY2:09.263/4L.
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Normandy Bridge didn’t look very talented today
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Normandy Bridge (FR) Underwent a veterinary examination upon arrival, having not raced since June 2021, and was passed suitable to race. Slow to begin. Laid in under pressure in the straight. Rider John Allen reported that the horse was agitated pre‑race, and then failed to run on in the straight. Rider John Allen was fined $300 under the provisions of AR132(6)(a) for use of the whip forward of the horse's shoulder in the early part of the straight. A post‑race veterinary examination failed to reveal any abnormalities. Stewards will follow up with the stable.
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I thought once he balanced up in the straight he hit the line OK.

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Group 3 winner in Italy, then spent time in Hong Kong where he did nothing.
Came out to Australia and had a prep with Gai but didn't race.
Was traded in Nov 2020 on Inglis Digital to current connections for $19,000
Kicks off his Australian career at Sale today in R7

WIESENBACH (GB) (LATE: ARCATRAZ (GB))

7yo Grey Gelding
D.O.B: 23-Apr-2015
by JUKEBOX JURY (IRE)  from WURFSCHEIBE (GER)
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StatusActive
Owner’s Details S Boulton, Mr M Farrugia
Stewards EmbargoesCurrent - Nil
Last Gear Change*14-Dec-2021, Blinkers, Off First Time
TrainerMiss Kerry Farrugia (Sale)
Racing ColoursPurple, Yellow Sleeves, Purple Armbands
CareerSummary: 16-2:3:2    Prizemoney: $117,887     
Min/Max-Dist-Win: 1800/1900     1st Up: 5:0-1-1    2nd Up: 4:1-1-0     
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 9:0-2-0     Soft: 2:1-0-1     Heavy: 4:1-1-1    Synthetic: 1:0-0-0

Notes from when he was last sold

Description

16hh

Wiesenbach is a 6yo gelding who has experience racing in Italy and Hong Kong. 

He is a Group 3 winner over 1800 metres, and he’s placed in Stakes company on multiple occasions.

The gelding struggled to acclimatise to his new surroundings last preparation, performing below par in both of his trials. 

He is currently spelling over the warmer months and should improve next preparation. 

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YearRaceGradeWinnerTrainerWinner Fam.Dist.2nd3rdTimeComment
2021GALLINULE STAKESG3EARLSWOOD2J P MURTAGH21-a10 FARTURO TOSCANINISNAPRAETEREA2:16.38SF
2021ROYAL WHIP STAKESG3EARLSWOOD2JOHN P MURTAGH21-a10 FREVE DE VOL2FINANS BAY2:09.263/4L.


Maddie gave this guy a huge rap on RSN early morning, despite repeated questioning as to whether he'd be sharp enough & looking at him pre race he was the one I wanted to be on (no internet & too hard to negotiate on the phone LOL so missed out). She was adamant he'd be fresh enough but the price reflected the same sory of punters being drawn to the name stables.
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Sorry but ... I took $21/4.20 on him earlier in the week Embarrassed
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'ponies', this mob do trainers & jockeys too tho' I've no idea how reliable. Go to My Stable to set up the BB & once added someone/horse, click the envelope for how many days pre race you want it.
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Racing & Sports do Sire & Dam too, an option I use a lot.
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This guy is a maiden but he has a official rating in the UK of 102. He would not have been cheap.

GWAN SO (GB)Bay colt 2019 
Ulysses
Chestnut 2013		Galileo
Bay 1998		Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981		Northern Dancer
Bay 1961		Nearctic
Natalma		1954
1957		14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975		Bold Reason
Special		1968
1969		19-b
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989		Miswaki
Chestnut 1978		Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal		1970
1971		13-c
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978		Lombard
Anatevka		1967
1969		1-d
9-h
Light Shift
Bay 2004		Kingmambo
Bay 1990		Mr Prospector
Bay 1970		Raise a Native
Gold Digger		1961
1962		8-f
13-c
Miesque
Bay 1984		Nureyev
Pasadoble		1977
1979		5-h
20>
Lingerie
Bay 1988		Shirley Heights
Bay 1975		Mill Reef
Hardiemma		1968
1969		22-d
1-l
Northern Trick
Chestnut 1981		Northern Dancer
Trick Chick		1961
1966		2-d
4-m
Regal Heiress
Bay 2008		Pivotal
Chestnut 1993		Polar Falcon
Brown 1987		Nureyev
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Special		1961
1969		2-d
5-h
Marie d'Argonne
Chestnut 1981		Jefferson
Mohair		1967
1974		1-t
8-c
Fearless Revival
Chestnut 1987		Cozzene
Grey 1980		Caro
Ride the Trails		1967
1971		3-o
4-m
Stufida
Bay 1981		Bustino
Zerbinetta		1971
1970		1-w
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Regal Rose
Bay 1998		Danehill
Bay 1986		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom		1961
1968		2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981		His Majesty
Spring Adieu		1968
1974		4-d
2-d
Ruthless Rose
Brown 1985		Conquistador Cielo
Bay 1979		Mr Prospector
K D Princess		1970
1971		13-c
8-h
Unfurled
Bay 1974		Hoist the Flag
Lemon Souffle		1968
1958		5-i
20-a
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5f x 5m,5m Special5f x 5m Mr Prospector5m,4m x 5m 
  Nureyev5f x 4m

GWAN SO (GB)

3yo Bay Colt
D.O.B: 05-Apr-2019
by ULYSSES (IRE)  from REGAL HEIRESS (GB)
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StatusPending
Ownerďż˝s Details Mystery Downs, Mrs C M Cook, Mr M J McFarlane, Mr T C Eddy, Mr D P Hickey, Mr S M Gregory, Mr J F Webb, Mr D F Degenhardt, Mr G J Williamson, Mr T P Giardina, Mr M G Williams, Walker Racing & Bloodstock, Borthwick Ramsay, Mr N McFarlane, Mr G J P Van Ameyden, Mr A J Willoughby, Mr D Bowman, Ms A S Neasham
Stewards EmbargoesNone on record
Last Gear Change*None on record.
TrainerMs Annabel Neasham (Warwick Farm)
Racing ColoursMaroon, White Crossed Sashes, Yellow Armbands And Cap
CareerSummary: 5-0:2:2    Prizemoney: $23,262    
1st Up: 1:0-0-0    2nd Up: 1:0-1-0    
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 4:0-2-1     Soft: 1:0-0-1     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0

Entries at Wyong and Kensington over the next two days. Hopefully they chose Wyong today. 
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SERPENTINE (IRE)

5yo Chestnut Gelding
D.O.B: 20-Mar-2017
by GALILEO (IRE)  from REMEMBER WHEN (IRE)
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StatusPending
Owner’s Details 
Stewards EmbargoesNone on record
Last Gear Change*None on record.
TrainerMr Robert Hickmott (Mount Macedon)
Racing ColoursNavy Blue, White Arm Bands And Cap
CareerSummary: 9-2:0:0    Prizemoney: $676,004    
Min/Max-Dist-Win: 2012/2420     1st Up: 4:0-0-0    2nd Up: 3:1-0-0    
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 5:2-0-0     Soft: 3:0-0-0     Heavy: 1:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0
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As an old-time punter I had a look at the entries for races in provincial NSW the other day and noted how many horses were imported to race in Australia, let alone provincial NSW. Horses were from GB,  IRE, USA, JAP, FRA and of course NZ. If I went back to an old racebook from the 1960s or the 1970s I reckon only NZ would appear next to any import. How times have changed.
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