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Tlazolteotl ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 30145 |
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Striking level of incompetence though from Labor not to prepare. Now in a competent world, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum parties would have got together and worked out a policy months, years ago, since the original HC ruling was obvious legal nonsense. But my dream of basic competence is as unlikely as Afros waking up to Katy Perry.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Passing Through ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 76911 |
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There was no need to prepare if as stated TPV's were quite adequate to fill the gap until new legislation based on the HC's ruling was put in place. The crossbenchers and Greens consulted by Labor all wanted the govt to wait and do it properly. They caved to pressure.
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Baghdad Bob ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 12618 |
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Although I rarely, if ever, watch ABC television or read The Guardian, I have little need to do so, because articles regularly posted on TBV by their admirers keep me up to date on a daily basis. No names, no pack drill, but we all know who they are.
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Passing Through ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 76911 |
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Who needs facts or actual information when you have ''honest'' Rupe's echo chamber instructing you how to think like an autocrat eh Bobby?
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Baghdad Bob ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 12618 |
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PT, it only took you 5 minutes for your response to my post, I threw the bait, and you came in spinner.
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Baghdad Bob ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 12618 |
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Back in June when whispers were spoken that the High Court would uphold the detainees appeals, the incompetence of the Ministers for Immigration & Home Affairs is now apparent as neither prepared draft legislation in anticipation that the government's case in the High Court would be lost Here is a real life situation facing a couple of young women because of that incompetence. Tony
Kellisar killed his wife and dumped her body in a wheelie bin acid bath. Now a
High Court ruling has set him free, and his former stepdaughters are terrified
he will come after them. Since 1999 — when he was sentenced to 22 years in a Victorian prison — sisters Serrah and Bianca Katz have feared their former stepfather Kellisar might one day be freed She had been on a work trip and he’d secretly
followed her from Sydney. He then drove her body back to NSW where he tried to
dissolve it in a vat of acid. He was sentenced to 22 years for the crime and
since his release from prison in 2021, he has been in immigration detention
trying to fight an order that his visa be cancelled. |
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Tlazolteotl ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 30145 |
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Same as all the other murderers who have served their short sentences except he doesn't have citizenship.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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rusty nails ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 10687 |
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What do you suggest this new proposed law do? |
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Passing Through ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 76911 |
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Dutton is clear, lock them up and bugger the High Court.
On stripping citizenship...bugger the High Court, just do it.
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Passing Through ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 76911 |
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Twice on Tuesday Ben Fordham asked Dutton if he as Immigration Minister was warned there could be a problem with this detention system. First time he waffled, second time he said ''Well no Ben''
Home affairs under Peter Dutton was warned ‘failing’ immigration detention may have breached duty of careThis article is more than 2 months old Exclusive: 2020 report told of risk to detainees’ health from indefinite detention and sending ‘prison hardened’ cohort into system |
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Baghdad Bob ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 12618 |
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Dutton’s view of locking the worst of them up and let them rot in jail is what 95% of the population agree with.
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marble ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Status: Offline Points: 5955 |
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I think everyone agrees where rotten crims belong Bob
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Passing Through ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 76911 |
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Maybe 95% of people with autocratic populist views Bob. Sadly they are growing in number.
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djebel ![]() Premium ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53604 |
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Who appointed the High Court Judges ?
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reductio ad absurdum
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Passing Through ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 76911 |
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Majority appointed during the last 9 years of LNP govt.
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Passing Through ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 76911 |
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They are appointed by the Governor General on the advice of the sitting Prime Minister.
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Fiddlesticks ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Dec 2012 Status: Offline Points: 48039 |
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So you sit around all day and watch what free to air commercial channels like 9 or 10 or 7 with their constant ads all day ? buy this insurance or that insurance, buy this burger or that makeup. I prefer to have the ABC on all day and use it like a radio, I just listen to the news bulletins, occasionally sit down to watch Hard Quiz, IQ, antiques roadshow, Midsomer murders. I rarely of ever turn the TV off, it feels weird if there is no sound on in the house all day so ABC does it politely and without a single fkn ad all day.
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Panspermia.
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djebel ![]() Premium ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53604 |
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That is all anybody needed to know.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Baghdad Bob ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 12618 |
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Rarely watch free to air tv, for the same reasons as yourself, either watch sport / horse racing on Pay Tv, and more importantly I am on the internet monitoring my SMSF. Love crosswords.
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
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What a load of wet lettuce rubbish ![]() God this country needs a leader but that won’t happen with insipid flag wavers defending the equally weak pollies
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marble ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Status: Offline Points: 5955 |
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we have had a deplorable line up of PM's plastic. Do you want to bring back the god fearing, coal loving minister for everything?
and what would you have had Albo do?
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
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rusty nails ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 10687 |
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If we have in fact given Myanmar hundreds of millions in aid, you think it was totally selfless of us?
Or were there a myriad of other factors involved in granting the aid? If it was the latter, then maybe these other factors are more important than one individual you want sent back….
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
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There’s no “ifs” about it and every country should be forced to take their criminals back regardless of how many, in my opinion
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horlicks ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 8198 |
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If the refugees were critics of the Myanmar military junta there is no way they could be sent back to probable torture or worse
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
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Sorry, but IF they’re murders and rapists as we are told, I done care. They are not our responsibility and a threat to our people.
Why should they escape punishment for their horrendous crimes?
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Fiddlesticks ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Dec 2012 Status: Offline Points: 48039 |
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Were short of workers in this county, all hard core criminals like these lot should be made to work in super secure, mega factories, making stuff. Secure Mega factories with good carbon footprints, thousands of inmates building and making things like car batteries, tools, appliances, wind turbines, solar panels etc etc etc, whatever we need made, get it done. Oz businesses could have contracts with these places where they place orders and the crims make the products. Those who don't know to do certain things are taught by professionals. Any inmate who doesn't want to work, then they can go be locked up in solitary, and fed two minute noodles daily.
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Panspermia.
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rusty nails ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 10687 |
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Sounds like you two want to live the life of a North Korean.
But, you know there are downsides to living in a community like that…. |
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Plastic letters ![]() Champion ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2023 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
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Not at all. What a silly thing to say.
I want people punished for 5heir crimes. It sounds like you are happy to given them a cuddle. Need I remind you…….murders, rapists????
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acacia alba ![]() Champion ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Hunter Valley Status: Offline Points: 40085 |
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I cant even be bothered talking about it with people who believe these people have rights. ![]() They care nothing for the rights of others. And I care nothing for theirs. Send them back where they came from. And if they arrived on a leaky boat, send them back on one. So much better for all concerned. |
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animals before people.
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