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ExceedAndExcel
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Posted: 12 Jul 2021 at 10:04pm |
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Speaking of art, I just started watching This Is A Robbery on Netflix about the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum robbery in 1990. Very interesting. Never been solved. The stolen works have an estimated value of US$500m. Bob, being the art expert he is may want to weigh in on whether that value is worth it.
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acacia alba
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Posted: 12 Jul 2021 at 10:25pm |
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Hmmmmm. Looking at some of that stuff. Give me a painting by the elephant any time.
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Carioca
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 12:27am |
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Always liked that nun many years ago giving her impressions of what the artist intentions were , very intense woman but loved art , Titan was a favourite of hers .
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acacia alba
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 1:02am |
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Like art by colonials or idigs, Just give me a lovely scape of wide brown plains,,,,, Or the dot ones by the indig ladies. |
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Baghdad Bob
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 1:10am |
E&E , thanks for that backhanded compliment however, I do not know much about putting value on those multi million dollar paintings, I have a better idea about Australian paintings by artists of whose paintings I own.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 9:17am |
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Sorry Bob, I assumed from your comments on the value of the Hunter Biden piece that you were an expert on all art. Even those artists and styles that you know nothing about. My mistake.
![]() In any event, watch the Netflix series. Quite interesting.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 7:23pm |
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WASHINGTON: Plans to keep secret the names of people who buy artworks painted by President Joe Biden’s son have been criticised as a “mechanism for funnelling bribes”. Pictures by Hunter Biden have been valued at between $US75,000 ($100,000) and $US500,000 before a New York gallery sale, attracting widespread criticism that buyers might try to gain influence with the administration. Mr Biden’s spokeswoman set out a plan for the gallery owner, Georges Berges, to keep the names of buyers confidential and weed out suspicious offers. Hunter Biden, 51, has previously been accused of exploiting his name by taking a board role with a Ukrainian gas company while his father was supposed to be tackling corruption in Ukraine. “A system has been established that allows for Hunter Biden to work in his profession within reasonable safeguards,” press secretary Jen Psaki said when asked if the White House was involved in drafting the plan to protect buyers’ identities. “He has the right to pursue an artistic career, just like any child of a president has the right to pursue a career. “But all interactions regarding the selling of art and the setting of prices will be handled by a professional gallerist, adhering to the highest industry standards and any offer out of the normal course would be rejected out of hand. “The gallerist will not share information about buyers or prospective buyers, including their identities, with Hunter Biden or the administration.” Barack Obama’s former ethics chief said the arrangement was a “perfect mechanism” for bribery. Walter Schaub, director of the Office of Government Ethics until 2017, said: “They have outsourced government ethics to an art dealer. She (Psaki) mentioned industry standards. It’s an industry that’s notorious for money laundering. There’s no standards in that industry.” Many art experts also questioned the valuations. “How much of that value is due to the art itself? That’s easy: none of it,” said Jeffry Cudlin, a professor of curatorial studies at the Maryland Institute College of Art. |
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Second Chance
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 7:27pm |
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Almost needless to say a biased piece by a biased journo working for a biased daily. Who would've guessed?
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Tlazolteotl
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 7:28pm |
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"Barack Obama’s former ethics chief said the arrangement was a “perfect mechanism” for bribery." So in the ethical solution where Hunter Biden doesn't know who bought the painting is the perfect mechanism for bribery. Right.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 7:32pm |
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Easy,
Just lock Hunter up! Something, something, laptops……
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 7:34pm |
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I mean, seriously ... If you wanted to try and bribe Hunter Biden there are far more effective ways to do it. And if you wanted to influence POTUS to do a dodgy deal for you there are far for effective ways than trying to bribe Hunter Biden - put a hundred million or so in a Trump Super PAC.![]() Hunter Biden ![]() |
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 7:51pm |
Gotcha there SC, since when has The Washington Times being a biased daily newspaper ?
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Second Chance
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 8:02pm |
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Always Bob. You're confusing that publication with the middle-ground Washington Post.
From Wiki: Throughout its history, The Washington Times has been known for its conservative political stance, supporting the policies of Republican presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Donald Trump.
ps funny how the piece was published word for word in one of Rupert's Australian rages. |
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 8:03pm |
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...rags.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 8:25pm |
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ps: gotcha there Bob.
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Baghdad Bob
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 8:54pm |
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SC, no you did not get me. Quoting Wikipedia as a legitimate source is flawed, because it can be edited by anyone at any time, any information it contains at a particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or just plain wrong. Edit wars and bias can also occur on many Wikipedia articles. Therefore, Wikipedia should not be considered a definitive source in and of itself.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 9:14pm |
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That might be correct Bob, but in this case the references quoted in the Wiki piece vouch for the accuracy, I certainly do not have to look at Wikipedia to know the the Washington Times is extremely right wing and was (and is) a firm supporter of Trump.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 9:31pm |
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Thanks Horlicks.
The "gotcha Bob" is authoritatively confirmed.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:12pm |
I actually don't mind this one. It looks a bit like the beige avalanche of half-baked ideas and fast scribbles that inundate social media these days. Either that or someone throwing out the garbage. Same thing really. |
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:15pm |
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Stayer, that reminds me of a Brett Whitely, a mate of mine owns, but hardly worth as much.
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Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:19pm |
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Brett Whitely is one modern artist I can understand.
Kind of the anti-Ken Done for Aussies.
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Posted: 16 Jul 2021 at 8:17pm |
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Jeff Koons, Rabbit, US$91.8 million ![]() |
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Posted: 16 Jul 2021 at 8:25pm |
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Jasper Johns, Flag, US$110 million ![]() |
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acacia alba
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Posted: 17 Jul 2021 at 1:39am |
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Whats the go ?? Why are these selling at ridiculous prices? Its just a flag ??? Whats so good about it ??
Give me Albert,s white gums any time. |
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Posted: 17 Jul 2021 at 12:55pm |
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Here’s one you’ll like AA. Australian artist Peter Hill, horse owned by the guy who wrote the Slim Dusty song “Leave Him In The Longyard” Peter went out to the guys place and met the horse Baden, and painted him. It’s our idea of art
We couldn’t fit it in the car, so he kindly delivered it a month or so later. We met him for lunch at a country pub and did the transfer.Top bloke, it was a big drive for him. It’s quite a large painting.
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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acacia alba
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Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 12:45pm |
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Now thats my kind of art.
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Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 7:42pm |
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I think I've left out the big bopper. Leonardo da Vinci (maybe ) - US$450 million.![]() |
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Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 7:43pm |
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“from the workshop” of Leonardo is what they're calling it now ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 11:16pm |
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Posted: 15 Oct 2021 at 1:41pm |
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Why would you want to waste $43 million on a Toorak mansion when you could have this masterpiece for only $34 million with $9 million to spare? ![]() |
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