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    Posted: 02 Feb 2022 at 11:25am
I was sure we had a thread on this great Australian.

The survival of abuse culture is dependent on submissive smiles and self-defeating surrenders. It is dependent on hypocrisy. My past is only relevant to the extent that I have seen—in fact I have worn—the consequences of civility for the sake of civility.

What I did wasn’t an act of martyrdom in the gender culture war. It’s true that many women are sick of being told to smile, often by men, for the benefit of men. But it’s not just women who are conditioned to smile and conform to the visibly rotting status-quo. It’s all of us.


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Were her parents derelict in their duty to Grace? I would like to think that if I had a daughter I would teach her not to take sh1t from any man by 5 years old, let alone 15.
An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Not even the Crumb Maidens could raise a smile yesterday. Not until Q&A anyway.

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I feel sorry for the girl

Obviously very angry & mixed up

Pretty sure most people have little issue with an occasional  forced smile if it helps facilitate amicable outcomes

To think otherwise is delusional




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Hahahahaha 
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No feelings for poor old Kenneth Hayne?
Such confused,mixed up,old man……
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 I can't believe this is still an issue. 

 A NON-SMILE...

 BIG FLAMING DEAL...

 I never smile while reading all the inane comments from her detractors...

 why should anyone be forced to smile?

 (insert 'shakes her head' emoticon)  
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Were her parents derelict in their duty to Grace? I would like to think that if I had a daughter I would teach her not to take sh1t from any man by 5 years old, let alone 15.

 As for this...

 Could you teach your daughter not to marry the man she loves, just to be murdered and put in an acid bath? 

 These issues are male problems... not women's.

 Teach your sons first...

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That's like saying don't learn to drive defensively, because there are bad drivers everywhere- teach those bad drivers to be good drivers so they don't kill me.
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Tame was simply brilliant at the Press Club today.  If you really care you'd have watched, or plan to watch it when streaming.
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Explained what the so called Morrison snub was about.
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Grace Tame tells National Press Club she was urged not to criticise PM

By Angus Thompson

Grace Tame has also taken to the stage to address the National Press Club.

Ms Tame said that on August 17 last year she received a phone call from a senior member of a government-funded organisation asking her to promise not to say anything damning about the Prime Minister in the lead-up to the next Australian of the Year awards.

“You are an influential person,” the 2021 Australian of the Year recalled being told. “He will have a fear.”  “And then it crystallised, a fear - a fear for himself and no one else. A fear he might lose his position or, more to the point, his power. Sound familiar to anyone?

“Well, it does to me. I remember standing in the shadow of a trusted authority figure, being threatened in just the same veiled way. I remember him saying, ‘I will lose my job if anyone hears about that, and you would not want that, would you?’”

Ms Tame also said that after she criticised Mr Morrison, the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet conducted a review into the National Australia Day Council, which she described as “a transparent intimidation tactic, designed to rattle the cage of an organisation whose funding it mostly comes from the federal government”.

During her speech, the former Australian of the year laid out three tasks: for the government to take the issue of abuse “in all its forms” more seriously, for adequate and preventative funding to be implemented and for nationally consistent legislation.

Ms Tame added that “we cannot forget our men”.  “[I am] an advocate for all survivors of child sexual abuse, many of whom are male. We must preserve that nuance.  “One in six boys and one in four girls is abused before their 18th birthday.”

 

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[QUOTE=djebel]I was sure we had a thread on this great Australian.[QUOTE]

I found it in Laundry & have now locked the topic so please keep this one a little nicer or it'll likely head the same way Confused


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Well it's fine thus far.  But beware the the troglodytes.
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

[QUOTE=djebel]I was sure we had a thread on this great Australian.[QUOTE]

I found it in Laundry & have now locked the topic so please keep this one a little nicer or it'll likely head the same way Confused



 it is a thread which should be earmarked for respect and not allowed to end up in a Laundry Basket.

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You mean with the other Grace Tame thread ?
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Speaking of respect. The girls got a standing ovation today, but the Crumb Maidens who were there on special release today remained seated.

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Better get Phil onto this ''mystery'' too.


STATEMENT: PM Morrison’s office on Grace Tame’s claim of a threatening phone call last year. “While Ms Tame has declined to name the individual, the individual should apologise.”

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I think many are starting to see a political bias from Miss Tame. Miss Higgins not so much. The former will continue to twist the knife until every extra twist makes no difference. She will be forgotten with time - as you can only tell the same story so many times before the audience switches off. Damage to Scommo already done though. Bring on Dutton

On the same trajectory as Hollywood MeToo #
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Whatever.  
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Too much that could be termed " Sub Judice " has already made a fair trial difficult for anyone associated with charges caused by these ladies allegations .
   Has to stop and charges be withdrawn.
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And we wonder why Govt are so slow achieving anything. With all the fear of offending anyone - women, immigrants, LBQT, indigenous  groups et al - we will get what we deserve. 

That being total procrastination. The ALP are masters of it. Sink in their own bullgelati. 
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I’m finding politics in this country infinitely depressing ! It’s obvious that Labor and the left, the good guys , have learnt nothing at all from the last Federal Election and are determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again. I’m amazed that nobody is concerned that an obviously damaged young woman like Grace Tame is being used to try and score political points off the the Prime Minister . I think it’s obscene and I want to give her a big hug and the number of a good therapist. It’s very wrong to use her as an attack dog.
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That's very true Baguette - thanks for saying so

The girl is obviously extremely dirty with the world - & quite rightly so. I don't see as brave - she is being put up on a pedestal by the many self-interest groups swanning around her. It has gone to her head. I do think one day she will realise she has been manipulated by those purporting to support her for their own gains.

I also think there is a chance - as you say - that the whole thing could swing back around to bite the ALP. She wants to blame Scommo for all her the wrongs in her life. Which is just blatantly unfair. Scommo should be congratulated how well he has handled the attack to date. 
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You are so far out of touch with the precise issue.  But back to your cave.          
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& what would be so unusual that a Govt Public Servant charged with ensuring positive public office asking the AOT recipient to keep negative government criticism to a minimum towards the end of her time.

Standard procedure almost i would have thought.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

You are so far out of touch with the precise issue.  But back to your cave.          
What's the difference between "the precise issue" & just "the issue". 

Oh that's right - there isn't any !
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It's crystal clear that you neither watched nor listened to the addresses given by either Tame or Higgins.
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Today's Media coverage of the Two victims , performing well scripted outbursts against the PM has done Him a great favour .
There wasn't a lot anyone could do for them during their years of silence.

Surely they knew right from wrong , AND that we have Policing to deal with such matters ,      way back then too.

   
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And Second Chance i am happy to admit i can be guilty of talking down to people. No worse than you though. 

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