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Does this mean that James has to relinquish the training duties of Prized Icon?
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Gooree will be spreading their horses around several trainers according to James' wife this morning.

Quite a few trainers mentioned in regard to taking over Leilani Lodge, inc Dad and JO'S
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Gooree will be spreading their horses around several trainers according to James' wife this morning.

Quite a few trainers mentioned in regard to taking over Leilani Lodge, inc Dad and JO'S


Mark Newnham and Kris Lees have been approached by outgoing Gooree Park Stud racing manager Monica Cummings to take over the future training of the horses.
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Originally posted by troppo75 troppo75 wrote:

Its a poisoned chalice...

there would be some financial reward but with the numbers of yearlings coming through + breeding
the expectation would be high every year..

I agree with a few who say Bart wouldnt be happy... because he wouldn't do it.. there is a lot to be said about grafting at it.. what he has been handed may seem good but better trainers than he have stepped down previously




7 figure salary and a massive production line of black type horses. As far as poisoned chalices go it's not a bad gig
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I see Good Standing has been sold and will race in Hong Kong


https://www.racing.com/news/2017-05-26/good-standing-off-to-hong-kong
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Originally posted by Donald Hiltonson Donald Hiltonson wrote:

Originally posted by troppo75 troppo75 wrote:

Its a poisoned chalice...

there would be some financial reward but with the numbers of yearlings coming through + breeding
the expectation would be high every year..

I agree with a few who say Bart wouldnt be happy... because he wouldn't do it.. there is a lot to be said about grafting at it.. what he has been handed may seem good but better trainers than he have stepped down previously




7 figure salary and a massive production line of black type horses. As far as poisoned chalices go it's not a bad gig
It's the best gig in racing as long as you can keep your ego in check and accept there are going to be some things outside of your control.

I've heard some knocks on James that he's lazy and always wants to get himself on TV. If there's even a smidgen of truth behind that this is probably a great fit.
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James Cummings love affair continues

with GLYN SCHOFIELD

This will work, big successful stables succeed so much better with a "SOUTH AFRICA CONNECTION"

I think Glyn is more than just a jockey

We will see Glyn ride with much more nouse and vigour now.

New season now and Glyn has a ride for GODOLPHIN in Warwick Farm race 2 today.

Then plenty more to come

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He is a good trainer but gee he is hard to listen to in interviews.

He seems to me to be trying to hard to say something more than needs to be said. 




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Glyn is certainly much more than a jockey... he's a "entrepreneur". 
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So many Godolphin threads but this seems most apt.

http://www.livetradingnews.com/australian-racing-godolphin-wins-20m-50138.html

Australian Racing: Godolphin Wins Over $20m

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Australian Racing: Godolphin Wins Over $20m

 Australian Racing: Godolphin Wins Over $20m

Australian racing is booming and the prizemoney just keeps getting better, if you are keen to get involved in the owning or breeding scene in Australia contact Knightsbridge.

Here is what Mike Hedge had to say about Godolphin’s success in Australia

Godolphin’s Australian operation has ended the latest racing season with a record prizemoney haul and the promise of an even better year ahead.

A pair of winners added on the stable’s final race day of the Australian season on July 29 took the tally to 224 races won and five G1 victories to AsternHaurakiHartnellIt’s Somewhat and Impending.

The star for the year among the locally-trained team was the evergreen Hartnell who won the G1 Turnbull Stakes and spent much of the rest of the season chasing home the champion mare Winx.

His eight runs for the year yielded almost A$2.2-million and earned him equal fifth place in the official world rankings after winning the G1 Turnbull Stakes and finishing second in the G1 Cox Plate and third in the G1 Melbourne Cup.

The team achieved a total prizemoney haul of almost A$19.5-million in racetrack earnings, with English-trained Godolphin runners in Australia in the 2016-2017 season adding a further A$3-million to the total.

The bulk of the Australian-based winners were prepared by three trainers, John O’Shea, Darren Beadman and James Cummings, the latter finishing the year with a flourish, leading in his first Stakes winner for Godolphin on the final Saturday of the racing year when two-year-old Bandipurwon the Listed Lightning Stakes in Adelaide.

Cummings saddled 11 winners in his first three weeks as Head Trainer in Australia and leads the team into the new season with commitment and confidence – and with Hartnell again looking to be the centrepiece of the coming Spring.

“Hartnell has returned in good shape and is very fresh having had only four starts during a very wet Autumn. He’ll resume in the G2 PB Lawrence Stakes at Caulfield in three weeks and go on to the G1 Makybe Diva Stakes and then to the Turnbull,” Cummings said.

Cummings also named the G1 Doncaster Handicap winner It’s Somewhat as a candidate for further high honours, along with the G1 Stradbroke Handicap winner Impending and a strong group of rising three-year-olds including KementariJorda and Alizee.

Cummings summed up some of the stable’s leading Spring prospects:

•It’s Somewhat: “We envisage some weight-for-age targets later in the Spring, probably some of the feature mile races”.

•Impending: “He has blossomed again after a G1-winning Brisbane campaign and looks a much more mature version of his old self. The G1 Manikato Stakes a likely target.”

•Kementari: “Has returned every bit as impressively as when he left off with a four-length win in a strong two-year-old handicap. He will be one of our most important colts heading towards the G1 Golden Rose.”

•Jorda: “The Gimcrack Stakes winner who was held back from her two-year-old Autumn and has been given the opportunity to grow and strengthen. She has trialled well and is one of our more exciting fillies.

•Alizee: “Astern’s half-sister and a highly promising maiden filly who would surprise no-one if she improved dramatically.  A potential G1 Flight Stakes filly.

•Sanctioned: “A mouth-watering colt who has returned with a stylish trial win in July and look set to kick-off in the early colts races of the Sydney Spring. I’d love to think he’s one of our leading Derby contenders.

Cummings also has high ambitions for other proven performers, such as Stakes-winning filly Ghisoni, the potential sprinter-miler Souchez, the Street Cry colt Trekking and Veranillo, who is a likely contender for the G2 Danehill Stakes over the Flemington straight course.

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color me cynical but i cant see glyn schofield having a long lasting partnership with godolphin.
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

color me cynical but i cant see glyn schofield having a long lasting partnership with godolphin.

I hope you are right.

He reminds me of Jackie Tse the much maligned rider of Danewin, there was no question horses run for them but they are piss weak in a finish.






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Schofield can ride when he wants to djebel. Tse could barely sit on. 
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

color me cynical but i cant see glyn schofield having a long lasting partnership with godolphin.


I hope you are right.

He reminds me of Jackie Tse the much maligned rider of Danewin, there was no question horses run for them but they are piss weak in a finish.




He's better than jackie but i get your point. glyn seems a pretty headstrong character and might be a bit too prickly (ive heard some stories) to form a long lasting relationship with the blue team.
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How does the village think James is going in comparison to his predecessors?

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I think hes going very poorly.

Seems to be running many,many more at the provincials' which might be good for his stats, but not much else.

Too many IMO, run up to win,and die on their run.
Is he being too kind to them?
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Certainly seems to be doing ‘okay’ in Sydney
Very poor in Vic though
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Just checked his nsw stats compared to osheas results from last season.
So far he's got 56% metro winners, 67% provincial winners & 34% of prizemoney..
But to be fair, osheas results include the rich autumn carnival.
The way it's tracking, he's on target to have more metro winners, substantially more provincial winners, and I'm predicting a reduction of prizemoney of 10-20%.

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He seems to be getting the 2yo's up and going not sure if that is statistically right though.
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Florid Race 7 Randwick looks well placed, lets see if he can kick start 2018 with a winer
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James is sure to get a solid lift from the TBV "knock" here, seems to work every time.
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This is why it was bad idea for him to take this position.

Godolphin have a completely different training philosophy than Bart did, so the young guy has to learn a totally different training regime on the run.

It is highly unlikely that he will ever have a Melbourne Cup runner, or a older staying type in his care, as this crew are , and quite rightly, only concerned with the breeding side of the racing, so they concentrate on sprinters/milers and younger types.

I did not think he did a great job in the spring. Not sure whose idea it was to run Hartnell in the cup, but he should have been racing in the 2000m group 1 and not wasting time in a race he was never going to win.

Maybe it is better in hindsight, but Alizee went one run more. When Global Glamour did the double last year all the trainers probably think they can do it now, but GG did not have a full Sydney Spring. For memory she had three runs and went to Melbourne at her fourth start.

Not sure why Impending was given a full spell after Queensland! Vrirdine and Kementari went okay but they will both be better in the autumn!

Horses like It's Somewhat, Spectroscope and others went backwards, or at least they did not improve.

At this point he gets a c-, from me, but that is comparing him to John O'Shea, Peter Snowden and others. 

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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Certainly seems to be doing ‘okay’ in Sydney
Very poor in Vic though


Relations between James and Melbourne staff is toxic. Should shut it down
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Don’t know why they don’t have a separate Melbourne trainer. They have different trainers o/s, don’t they? And they used to give Freedman horses.

As for Cummings I think it’s too early to tell, obviously, but not a great start. Watched him interviewed over the Spring and he didn’t come across all that well. Looked tense and under pressure. He might grow into that role but it might just be a bad fit, like O’Shea. As foreman for the Hawkes, Snowden was accustomed to that system so maybe that helped.

Tough gig, but with the local breeds and imports, he won’t want for quality horseflesh. Not to mention resources.
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Originally posted by mc41 mc41 wrote:

Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Certainly seems to be doing ‘okay’ in Sydney
Very poor in Vic though


Relations between James and Melbourne staff is toxic. Should shut it down

Myra’s Melb trainer David Charles has stood down from his role. Will be moving to an Admin position. On the lookout for a new Trainer to run the Melb op
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Good move IMOP
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James is not real sure what this filly should be doing. I suspect she should be breeding.

LAUSSEL (AUS)Bay filly 2014 
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Leroidesanimaux
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Candy Stripes
Chestnut 1982
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Prodice
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Dissemble
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Aggressor
Raven Locks
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Dynamis
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Dancing Brave
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Navajo Princess
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Diasprina
Bay 1986
Aspros
Dorle
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Moravany
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Elusive Quality
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Gone West
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Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
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Secrettame
Chestnut 1978
Secretariat
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5 winners today.
could be a massive spring for old mate james, seems to have some real handy horses atm big spring ahead
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That is why mowie I joined the Godolphin Fantasy Stable Comp.

I think they are in for a cracking spring, and the comp is a bit of an interest.

The import who won at Randwick looks above average, Kementari is back bigger better than ever and Morton's Fork stretched out to 2000m looks like a lower level spring player (donot forget he is already a group 3 winner in melbourne during the spring).


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