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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

J A Richardson off 7.5m 1993
I am not decrying Richardson's win in the 1993 Stawell Gift, but it is a handicap event where the race is won by a talented athlete that has beaten the handicapper and gone on to win the race. I doubt anyone could name, off the top of their head, any winner in the past ten years. Back in its glory days the Gift attracted far more attention than it does today, as the pre AFL football season has encroached on the Gift's time in the Sun.
The only winner I can recall who made any impression on me was Bill Howard, who won the Gift in 1966 and was dragged 3.41 metres to win in a faster the following year.
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Nothing nasty here, just dealing in facts
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Nasty right there shawy.
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Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

J A Richardson off 7.5m 1993
I am not decrying Richardson's win in the 1993 Stawell Gift, but it is a handicap event where the race is won by a talented athlete that has beaten the handicapper and gone on to win the race. I doubt anyone could name, off the top of their head, any winner in the past ten years. Back in its glory days the Gift attracted far more attention than it does today, as the pre AFL football season has encroached on the Gift's time in the Sun.
The only winner I can recall who made any impression on me was Bill Howard, who won the Gift in 1966 and was dragged 3.41 metres to win in a faster*** the following year.
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Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

J A Richardson off 7.5m 1993
I am not decrying Richardson's win in the 1993 Stawell Gift, but it is a handicap event where the race is won by a talented athlete that has beaten the handicapper and gone on to win the race. I doubt anyone could name, off the top of their head, any winner in the past ten years. Back in its glory days the Gift attracted far more attention than it does today, as the pre AFL football season has encroached on the Gift's time in the Sun.
The only winner I can recall who made any impression on me was Bill Howard, who won the Gift in 1966 and was dragged 3.41 metres to win in a faster the following year.

Cathy Freeman did win the 400m version of the Stawell Gift send she was handicapped a lot and started a mile back, this is the race:
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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What does Cathy Freeman have to do with a Melbourne Cup??
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I reckon getting Jamal & Djebel down into Joffs would represent excellent entertainment value for TBV members . 

As far as I am concerned the d1ckhead is blocked. 
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I reckon getting Jamal & Djebel down into Joffs would represent excellent entertainment value for TBV members . 

As far as I am concerned the d1ckhead is blocked. 

Why would you block me? What have I done wrong? Given an alternate view.....nothing wrong with that. It's your problem if you can not handle other people with different views. 
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I reckon getting Jamal & Djebel down into Joffs would represent excellent entertainment value for TBV members . 

As far as I am concerned the d1ckhead is blocked. 

Twitter's worst judge of horse racing resorts to name calling. Classy isn't it from you but really not surprising. Fact is you can not handle someone else ha ing a different opinion to you. Clearly you need to understand that not everyone will sing from the same song sheet as you. 
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I reckon getting Jamal & Djebel down into Joffs would represent excellent entertainment value for TBV members . 

Yep, I'm more then happy to engage with Djebel and he enjoys engaging with me. So your idea has some merit. 
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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You are just as bad as each other. Try to keep it relevant
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

What does Cathy Freeman have to do with a Melbourne Cup??

I think after she won that gold medal at the Olympics she was interviewed on Channel 10 on Cup Day later that same year.Wink
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We should start a thread.  Jamal vs Djebel - The Greatest Hits LOL
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Or perhaps a couple of one-hit wonders.  Big smile

Just joking fellas, it's been a slow day.
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Multiple cases of COVID-19 have emerged from the Verry Elleegant Melbourne Cup party in the city - including owner Ozzie Kheir @7NewsMelbourne
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My spies tell me Jmac attended too Wink oh what fun LOL


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I reckon getting Jamal & Djebel down into Joffs would represent excellent entertainment value for TBV members . 

As far as I am concerned the d1ckhead is blocked. 

The pot has spoken.
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The 2021 Melbourne Cup Carnival has recorded an impressive domestic turnover result, with wagering was up 7.6 per cent.

A staggering $724.1 million was turned over domestically across the four-day carnival, achieving a record result.

Wagering for Cup Day attracted a turnover of $372.8m, up 1.9 per cent, with almost 60 cents of every dollar wagered for the day being on the Group 1 feature - itself recording $223.8m turnover in domestic wagering.

Victoria Derby Day turnover increased 4.7 per cent to $141.1m, while there was also an increase of 11.2 per cent on the Derby itself and Thursday's Oaks Day also increased its turnover 2.1 per cent to $84.3m.

However, the biggest result came on Stakes Day, with turnover up 42.8 per cent compared to 2020 - a year impacted by a TAB outage - and 14.2 per cent up on 2019.

Derby Day and Cup Day hit new benchmarks in Hong Kong, while Cup Day also set a record in the US.
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Timeform Ratings - 2021 Melbourne Cup

1st: Verry Elleegant - 127

2nd: Incentivise - 121

3rd: Spanish Mission - 120

4th: Floating Artist - 103

5th: The Chosen One - 103

6th: Grand Promenade - 96

7th: Delphi - 100

8th: Selino - 98

9th: Tralee Rose - 87

10th: She's Ideel - 90

11th: Twilight Payment - 99

12th: Miami Bound - 84

13th: Grest House - 78

14th: Sir Lucan - 87

15th: Explosive Jack - 88

16th: Master Of Wine - 80

17th: Pondus - 80

18th: Carif - 79

19th: Knight's Order - 79

20th: Persan - 75

21st: Port Guillaume - 67

22nd: Johnny Get Angry - 60

23rd: Ocean Billy - 40
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Oh good !  that should help Carpenter with his assessments next year ....maybe . Wink
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And that's why ratings are rubbish. Had Grand Promenade got the same run as Floating Artist it may have challenged the winner and most certainly would've run second IMO. But it has a lower rating. Go figure.
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How bad is Ocean Billy going if he ranks 20 points inferior to Johnny Get Angry?
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Miami Bound has been retired
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https://www.racenet.com.au/news/the-everest-rates-higher-than-spring-showpieces-melbourne-cup-caulfield-cup-and-cox-plate-20211116
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0.1 difference between the premier sprint and premier staying race of the spring, does this mean you'll now be saying our sprinters are bad as well Jamal?
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