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Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Think you will find this to be the case for the majority of UK stables just below the top yards.


The winner is an ordinary handicapper from Europe. Comes to Australia and wins a G1

Brew was an ordinary handicapper from Australia when he won the group 1 Melbourne Cup Jamal. It happens that's why it's a handicap!
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Brew was NZ bred PMD , by Sir Tristam from the mare Horlicks winner of a Japan Cup , just sayin. Wink
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Selino was not just a ordinary handicapper, he was a horse going through his grades and was a genuine group performer.

When he left England for Australia he was rated 7 pounds superior to what Favourite Moon left England with.

And he won yesterday with 50 kgs.

If anybody thinks he was an ordinary handicapper before yesterday he is still an ordinary handicapper today.

I doubt he gets a run in the Melbourne Cup unless they change the rules.
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1st

SELINO

Ron Stewart

He was a tough ride but it kept unfolding nicely for us. It certainly wasn’t easy, he was quite strong throughout, but I could see that in his replays, he has done that in the past, but when I pulled out down the side with about 1000m to go I still had plenty of horse there and I thought okay we have no weight on our back - catch me if you can.

2nd

RONDINELLA

Andrew Adkins

Huge effort. Beaten by a better one on the day. Hit the line exceptionally well.

3rd

MIAMI BOUND

Craig Williams

She did an amazing job. Under the circumstances from the bad barrier in a slow, stop, start affair and stayed on really well. Gallant third.

4th

SHE'S IDEEL

Rachel King

Really good run over this trip for the first time. Got held up around the turn.

5th

REALM OF FLOWERS

Damien Thornton

Ran good. Got shuffled too far back on the corner when the race changed complexion.

6th

THE CHOSEN ONE

Hugh Bowman

A better draw would have helped but beaten on his merits.

7th

GOOD IDEA

Ben Thompson

He was just too aggressive through the run. Found a nice spot but even though covered up, his staying ability had him stick on but lacked a sprint.

8th

SOUTHERN FRANCE

James McDonald

Just whacked away. Good run.

9th

SOUND

Brenton Avdulla

He tried hard. Had a lovely run, followed the winner, just wasn’t good enough.

10th

SACRAMENTO

Kathy O'Hara

He was a little on the bridle. Suggestion to take the blinkers off over that trip.

11th

SPIRIT RIDGE

Robbie Dolan

Probably best at 2000m, blinkers on.

12th

HUSH WRITER

Tim Clark

Wide the entire trip. Probably doesn’t stay the trip but that run doesn’t help.

13th

FAVORITE MOON

Kerrin McEvoy

Just pulled at stages during the race.

14th

CHAPADA

Glen Boss

Didn’t run the trip.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Brew was NZ bred PMD , by Sir Tristam from the mare Horlicks winner of a Japan Cup , just sayin. Wink

Of course the famous Sir Tristram (sire of Zabeel among many others) and Horlicks a Japan Cup winner. If ever a horse was bred to win a Melbourne Cup it was Brew but correct me if I'm wrong Gay but he raced his whole career in Aus did he not? So he was an Aus handicapper.

I remember him toiling through the winter Benchmarks (or equivalent back then) and making not much of an impact. He was very ordinary. Still won a Melbourne Cup with a lightweight.
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Sydney Cup winner Shraaoh has died overnight during surgery for colic.
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Originally posted by Pardon_My_Dust Pardon_My_Dust wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Brew was NZ bred PMD , by Sir Tristam from the mare Horlicks winner of a Japan Cup , just sayin. Wink

Of course the famous Sir Tristram (sire of Zabeel among many others) and Horlicks a Japan Cup winner. If ever a horse was bred to win a Melbourne Cup it was Brew but correct me if I'm wrong Gay but he raced his whole career in Aus did he not? So he was an Aus handicapper.

I remember him toiling through the winter Benchmarks (or equivalent back then) and making not much of an impact. He was very ordinary. Still won a Melbourne Cup with a lightweight.

How would Brew go in a Sydney Cup nowdays? Just asking thats all.
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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I'm sure he had a couple of runs very early in his career in his place of birth , I wouldn't mind betting Paul Moroney ( brother of Michael ) may have recommended this horse as a " buy" for future racing in OZ.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

I'm sure he had a couple of runs very early in his career in his place of birth , I wouldn't mind betting Paul Moroney ( brother of Michael ) may have recommended this horse as a " buy" for future racing in OZ.

Yep Brew started racing in New Zealand
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Brew (NZ) 
Bay gelding. Foaled 1994. By Sir Tristram (Ire.) - Horlicks (NZ), by Three Legs (GB). Trained by: Michael Moroney.
TWO YEARS
5TH8 ran2/3L A O'Sullivan55Matamataa1200m2YO Maiden9-Mar-97Rise Above53.51:11.6Dead
4TH12 ran3/3L A O'Sullivan55Avondale1200m2YO Maiden26-Mar-97State Command551:10.4Good
6TH15 ran3-1S Campton55.5Kembla Grange1200m2YO Maiden26-Jul-97Innocent Kiss531:12.6Good
THREE YEARS
WON18 ran4-1R Thompson53.5Kembla Grange1600mMaiden9-Aug-97Nardell56.51:38.7Good
2ND12 ran6-1K Moses52Canterbury1920mR-1MW Hcp27-Aug-97En Demi Pointe53.51:58.1Good
5TH8 ran12-1K Moses55.5Rosehill1900mGloaming Stakes13-Sep-97Tie The Knot55.51:56.9Good
5TH9 ran5-1K Moses52Randwick2000mDulcify Qlty27-Sep-97Tie The Knot57.52:08.7Dead
6TH16 ran7-1G J Childs53.5Sandown1400m3YO Hcp11-Jan-98City Hall55.51:21.8Good
7TH12 ran12-1C Williams51Flemington1800m3YO Hcp8-Feb-98Il Don52.51:51.0Dead
2ND7 ran14-1M Carson55.5Flemington1404m3&4YO R-1MW Hcp22-Jul-98Grand Centro55.51:27.3Slow
FOUR YEARS
4TH12 ran6-1M Carson53Sandown1500mClass 6 Hcp12-Aug-98Stargazer55.51:37.3Heavy
3RD9 ran15-8fB Prebble52Moonee Valley2040mClass 6 Hcp30-Aug-98Royal Time562:07.1Good
2ND16 ran6-1G J Childs54Sandown2237mClass 6 Hcp19-Sep-98Guardian Angel542:21.9Dead
3RD12 ran2-1 efG J Childs56.5Sandown2294mClass 6 Hcp30-Sep-98Guardian Angel54.52:23.5Good
9TH13 ran8-1L Dowson58Bendigo1600mClass 3 Hcp28-Mar-99Velluto53.51:36.4Good
5TH12 ran10-1E A Wilkinson56.5Bendigo1600mClass 4 Hcp16-Apr-99Velluto561:36.3Good
4TH12 ran6-1E A Wilkinson55.5Caulfield2030mClass 6 Hcp2-May-99Carnasquare57.52:07.7Good
2ND10 ran5-2 fG J Childs53.5Moonee Valley2040mClass 6 Hcp12-May-99Magic Precieux52.52:09.1Good
2ND12 ran13-4E A Wilkinson52.5Flemington2575mR-1MW-LY Hcp26-May-98Regal Royal542:47.3Slow
WON14 ran6-1J Patton54Flemington2531mOpen Hcp14-Jun-99Copper Wildwood532:47.4Heavy
2ND12 ran7-2 fJ Patton57Caulfield2425mOpen Hcp27-Jun-99Rules Galore562:35.7Slow
3RD15 ran11-4 fJ Patton56.5Sandown2475mOpen Hcp11-Jul-99Defence Force55.52:39.1Dead
FIVE YEARS
2ND8 ran10-1J Patton58Flemington1611mClass 6 Hcp8-Sep-99Biggs52.51:41.0Dead
WON10 ran7-1S W Arnold59Moonee Valley2040mClass 6 Hcp25-Sep-992d-Nazzaro54.52:07.2Good
 2d-The Warrior57.5  
6TH13 ran7-1S W Arnold55Geelong2400mGeelong Cup20-Oct-99Bohemiath552:29.1Good
5TH14 ran11-2L A O'Sullivan51Flemington2500mSaab Qlty30-Oct-99The Warrior512:35.3Good
10TH24 ran40-1L A O'Sullivan49Flemington3200mMelbourne Cup2-Nov-99Weasel Will563:19.6Good
4TH13 ran25-1K McEvoy52Moonee Valley1600m4YO&Up Hcp25-Mar-00Jastanjah51.51:38.6Good
WON9 ran3-1K McEvoy52.5Moonee Valley2040mOpen Hcp15-Apr-00Fossato51.52:10.1Dead
5TH9 ran9-2B York58Doomben2020mLarbour Day Cup1-May-00Integrate55.52:09.8Heavy
5TH11 ran6-1B Prebble51Gold Coast2400mPM's Cup17-May-99My Duke52.52:29.2Good
9TH11 ran20-1B Prebble58Eagle Farm2400mPJ O'Shea Stakes3-Jun-99Ken's Joy582:28.7Fast
4TH20 ran11-1B Prebble51Eagle Farm3200mBrisbane Cup12-Jun-99Yippyio51.53:24.9Slow
SIX YEARS
6TH14 ran16-1K McEvoy56.5Caulfield1700mHeatherlie Hcp3-Sep-99Prince Benbara531:45.9Slow
11TH16 ran14-1S R King54Caulfield2000mNaturalism Stakes23-Sep-00Celestial Show532:02.2Good
WON13 ran7-1D Beadman54Flemington2559mJapan Trophy7-Oct-00The Warrior532:40.7Good
2ND14 ran6-1B PrebblE55Moonee Valley2500mMoonee Valley Cup26-Oct-00Yippyio582:41.4Slow
WON16 ran9-2C Munce56.5Flemington2500mSaab Quality4-Nov-00Mr. Nelson52.52:37.2Slow
WON22 ran14-1K McEvoy49Flemington3200mMelbourne Cup7-Nov-00Yippyio523:18.7Good
9TH10 ran15-1L G Innes60.5Caulfield1400mOpen Hcp17-Feb-01Emission531:23.6Good
5TH12 ran16-1K McEvoy59Caulfield2024mVic. Gold Cup3-Mar-01Greenstone Charm512:00.7Good
9TH12 ran30-1K McEvoy58Rosehill2000mRanvet Stakes24-Mar-01Tie The Knot582:03.0Good
SEVEN YEARS
Did not race
EIGHT YEARS
16TH16 ran100-1B Prebble58Caulfield1400mListon Stakes24-Aug-02Sports581:23.2Dead
11TH14 ran100-1B Prebble58Flemington1600mCraiglee Stakes7-Sep-02Northerly581:37.9Good
Age
Starts
1st
2nd
3rd
2yo
3
0
0
0
3yo
7
1
2
0
4yo
12
1
4
3
5yo
11
2
1
0
6yo
9
3
1
0
7yo
0
0
0
0
8yo
2
0
0
0
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44
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8
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That formline contains something that would be astronomical odds of happening
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Brett Prebble all brothers in law all rode and all placed  on Brew, JP and Kerrin Mcevoy won on him and Brett Prebble finished 2nd 
when i first read it i was 1/2 expecting to see Paddy or Andrew, or one of the Girls bob up as well

Racing trivia question??


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