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Shammy Davis
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Afros
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Classic shammy, refer to the bold part for the whataboutism I was referring to. And another in this latest post, "I don't make whataboutisms but what about the posse?" What do I need to improve my concentration on? Do I need to become like yourself, voting on party lines "because they're my side" regardless of whether it will be good for the nation or not?
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Seeing Manchester United relegated would mean more than words can describe to me.
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Shammy Davis
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Afros: Besides your chronic TDS, do we all have to suffer through your comedian thinking and responses too.
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oneonesit
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Your lucky Shammy - TBV members have to cop him on Climate, Sport, Aussie Politics & everything else.
Your blessed See's himself as the next PT I think
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Refer ALP Election Promises
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jujuno
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Shammy is enjoying not having PT around to show him up for his shortcomings... and not just in the length of his prick...
Sorry...but Shammy did bring up the subject...
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Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
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rusty nails
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You refuse to believe actual facts about the economy, because one pawn broker says things are tough? At least you’ve stopped defending the orange idiot, by using the topic subject as an excuse not to comment. Do yourself a favour, and short sell the orange idiots new shares ASAP. This is the biggest con he’s ever pulled. And the only people that are getting burnt are his true believers. (Just like jan 6)
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Shammy Davis
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Shammy Davis
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The USA currently what is defined as a "trapped in place" economy. Joe's suggestion that his bidenomics program is working is just not true. The article below spells out the current situation in Biden’s borderless country.
"If you like your situation right now — your job, your house, your car — you can keep it. If you aren't so satisfied, well, tough luck, because you might have to keep it anyway. Making a major life change, especially an upgrade, is going to come at a cost — one that many Americans would rather avoid, if they can manage it. Welcome to the "trapped in place" economy. "If you are trying to move, buy a car, whatnot, then you have all these bad buying conditions on top of everyday high prices, so it's a double whammy," Joanne Hsu, the director of consumer surveys at the University of Michigan, told me. The past four years have been filled with upheaval, though economic news has recently been on the upswing. Still, while there's been improvement on a macro level, on a micro, day-to-day level, there's a real sense of stasis. Inflation is falling, but prices are still much higher than they were before the pandemic. Interest rates are elevated. The labor market has cooled off somewhat, making it less advantageous to hunt for a new job. Everything seems stuck, and if you're looking to switch it up, it's going to cost you. . ." https://www.businessinsider.com/economy-housing-market-mortgage-buying-car-interest-rates-new-jobs-2024-3 |
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rusty nails
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Cmon Shammy, that article is a crock of sh1t.
If the current situation was a deterioration of what he inherited, then it would be a fair analysis. But is doesn’t, so it isn’t!
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Afros
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Interesting you mention comedy, this is the category nearly all of your posts could be filed under, Comedy, Unintentional, would be the best file header in the digital filing cabinet.
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Seeing Manchester United relegated would mean more than words can describe to me.
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Tlazolteotl
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Should we have trillionaires? Should we even have billionaires? According to at least one recent analysis, the economy is on track to mint its first trillionaire — that is 1,000 billion — within a decade. Such staggering accumulations of wealth are made possible in large part by the fact that America’s federal tax burden is so comparatively light. After a long period of seeming to venerate the 1 percent, or the 1 percent of 1 percent of 1 percent, American sentiment is swinging hard against this imbalance. Now President Biden, behind in many polls and with an economy that is objectively strong but politically unpopular, is hoping to boost his re-election bid with a policy idea that would once have been almost unthinkable: For this portion of the population, at least, he is vowing — almost gleefully — to raise taxes. Even for a popular president, this would seem like a huge risk. For a Democrat with low job approval ratings and precarious poll numbers on his handling of the economy, it’s a shocking rebuke to conventional wisdom — and practically an invitation to critics to call him a tax-and-spend liberal. But on the politics as well as the policy, Mr. Biden is making the right call. Economic ideas that were once dead on arrival are now gaining traction on both the left and the right. The moment has arrived for changes in the tax code — and maybe beyond. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/opinion/biden-tax-wealthy.html |
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Shammy Davis
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Oh please! That's bollox. NYT has been a Democrat liberal clap trap since the 80's. Get some facts that are actually reliable. Poor TBV members have to tolerate one posse delusion after another.
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https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/
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rusty nails
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I don’t think those stats say what you think they do.
What an appalling state of the nation!
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Afros
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So shammy, you agree that wealth inequality is a problem in the USA?
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Seeing Manchester United relegated would mean more than words can describe to me.
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Second Chance
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The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, as reflected in tax contributions as a percentage of income. Funny that.
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Second Chance
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Shammy's post is hauntingly reminiscent of Joe Hockey's entirely disgraceful and duly discredited "Lifters and Leaners" analogy in his Budget address of 2014. You know, that ultimately failed budget that absolutely died the death of a dog.
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Shammy Davis
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To be fair. " . . . The United States is internationally regarded as an economic powerhouse, however under closer scrutiny, we see that the wealth gap within the nation economy is constantly expanding due to both the capitalistic nature of the economy, and the Trump administration. This wealth gap expansion is seen in Australia too. The increasing concentration of upper class wealth both in Australia and the US consequently affects people of colour disproportionately due to the nature of wealth accumulation. In 2015, the US “had the highest wealth inequality among industrialised nations”, Australia is not much better. The top 20% of the Australian population owns 2/3 of total national wealth. Compared to the bottom 20% of the population (1% of national wealth). While this is no as significant as the United States wealth concentration, it still still quite significant. . ."
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Second Chance
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Refreshing follow-up from Shammy it needs be acknowledged.
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Afros
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Shammy confirming via a typical whataboutism/deflection that he agrees wealth inequality is a problem.
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Seeing Manchester United relegated would mean more than words can describe to me.
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Shammy Davis
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Afros has been taught well. Like with PT and the rest of the posse, when all else fails to combat an intelligent opposing argument their best tactic is to imagine what they want the opposition to think and then post it as if it were true. WTF-ism, not whataboutism, is the better term for it. Rather than putting their foot in their mouth, they are happy to put it in someone else's. Gives new meaning on TBV that for the posse ignorance is truly bliss for them.
Just to be clear, wealth inequality is an inherent result of a free society's capitalism. Realistically, the only other choices are either an autocratic government or full blown socialism. I don't see OZ making any great strides in managing its inequalities. Why demand it of the yanks? If it is such a big deal, Afros should move to Norway, where the gap is smallest. Like with OZ, Norway is getting more reliant on we yanks to insure its defense. Looks like our Marines are producing another rotational force so Norway can keep its near wealth equality. What a surprise! |
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Tlazolteotl
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Interesting (or very boring) debate on the level of income inequality in America going on. Based on the research of Gerald Auten and David Splinter. Their conclusion is that post-tax income inequality has barely risen since the 1960's. https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/728741 A new debate is raging on an old subject: How fair is America?America’s story might be due for some reinterpretation. Perhaps the very rich do not take quite as large a slice of the pie as many thought. Still, the “new” version of the United States remains a remarkably unequal place, more so than most other industrialized countries. According to data from the Luxembourg study, Norway’s Gini, after adding in taxes and transfers, is 0.28; Canada’s is 0.29, Germany’s is 0.30 and Britain’s is 0.30. Of the 38 countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, only four are more unequal: Chile, Costa Rica, Mexico and Turkey. This inequality matters, going hand in hand with the United States’ poverty rate, which is higher than peer nations’. Whether measured by obesity, life expectancy, infant mortality, maternal mortality, the incidence of hepatitis B, or the number of accidental poisonings or suicides, the United States is an outlier, worse off than peer nations. And it’s Americans on the lower rungs of the socioeconomic ladder who suffer most. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/01/07/income-inequality-fairness-auten-splinter/ https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2023/11/30/income-gaps-are-growing-inexorably-arent-they |
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Fiddlesticks
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Can you list what the republican policies are for 24 ? just a couple will do. |
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Panspermia.
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Afros
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Wait what, do you seriously think any of your posting is intelligent? It's cute that you think there are only 3 possible models, open slather capitalism, dictator or full blown socialism, clueless is an understatement. I'm not sure if you realise, in fact I'm certain you don't, however Norways economy on a per capita rate is much stronger than the USA, however with a population that sits at around 1.5% of the USA its simple weight of numbers that means they can't compete militarily with another giant nearby to them in Russia, which is why NATO was formed, so that nations could work together. You can claim your whataboutisms all you like about life in Australia but we have a few freedoms that you yanks unfortunately can only dream of, if one is diagnosed with a chronic medical condition that requires medical support for a life time, one doesn't have to decide whether their medicine or rent is more important to be paid this week, thanks to medicare. Should one present at a hospital needing urgent attention, you're not lieing in the hospital bed worrying about how to pay the bill, thanks to medicare. Our independent Electoral Commision ensures that neither major party can gerrymander the electoral boundries to ensure the results come out in their favour, our compulsory voting, holding elections on a Saturday and abundance of polling booths ensures that every Australian adult can have their say, so we don't have situations like Texas, considered a strong red state but notionally a marginal state if all eligible voters did actually vote. And even more importantly our children can go to school without fear that a gunman will burst in and shoot the place up.
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Seeing Manchester United relegated would mean more than words can describe to me.
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Shammy Davis
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Carioca
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Your man will get his comeuppance Shammy , as sure as the shyte in his head , but it may well be at the expense of your democracy and the economy ( tariffs on china ) anyone of your mob who cuddles up to dictators and " death squads " are not worth a spit , isn't that what you fought against ? unfortunately voting can bring out the hate , you are being blinded by it , and the con !
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jujuno
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Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
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jujuno
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Australia also does not have two geriatrics as candidates for the top position...
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Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
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