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Wild horse population surveys are prepared by Dr Stuart Cairns of the University of New England’s School of Environmental and Rural Science on behalf of NPWS using a method known as distance sampling.

These were undertaken in 2014, 2019, 2020, 2022 and October 2023 – the last of which estimated KNP’s wild horse population as between 12,934 and 22,536 horses, with a best estimate of 17,432 remaining.

This number has been widely disputed by locals and brumby advocates who have suggested the population now sits in the low thousands.

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In New South Wales Introduction by NPWS of a Standard Operating Procedure 2023 in an attempt to remove the benefit of the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act to avoid prosecution for cruelty, is being assessed. There is no doubt, many Brumbies will have suffered a cruel and painful death.

In Victoria, Parks Victoria shot the entire surviving 100 Bogong Brumbies, yet have failed to trap any Brumbies during 2022 and 2023 despite the 2021 Management Plan giving priority to rehoming. There are approved rehomers, yet Parks Victoria have moved forward to vary the Management Plan, without consultation.
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Great brumby classes at Batlow Show on the 23rd of March!!! It is their 100th show so a big milestone for them.
There is a great deal happening on this day including our spectacular Ring Events and a Beaut Gymkhana competition for the younger riders.
Please find a link to our 2024 RIng Schedule for your convenience.
Flat fee GROUND ADMISSION CHARGES $20 per horse truck or float or supporting vehicle for our riders.
FREE ENTRIES for all showing and gymkhana classes to celebrate our 100th Annual Show.
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Interesting findings Confused

Horses, camels and deer get a bad rap for razing plants – but our new research shows they’re no worse than native animals

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International experts in Equine DNA and Genetics  are shocked by  plans of the New South Wales Labor Government to shoot brumbies that have been proven to carry the rare Rabicano and Birdcatcher genes

Snowy Mountains Brumby Registry specialise in collecting  and studying DNA samples of brumbies and have been working with University of New South Wales for a number of years,

News that Rabicano genes carried by some brumbies can be traced back to horses that arrived on the first fleet sheds new light on the historical and cultural histories of brumbies.

Brumbies photographed by Ian Brown hold the rare birdcatcher gene, which is also of interest to international equine experts and horse racing enthusiasts as some of the most famous racehorses carried this rare gene.

Penny Sharpe must STOP the carnage and all plans to engage in a shooting spree of brumbies in retention zones, or any other part of the Park, those that are in fact protected by Heritage Brumby Legislation. 

There has been no count of brumbies in retention zones to establish that she is not already in breach of the Legislation in force to protect these precious bloodlines as 3,000 must be retained in those specifically designated retention zones. Once numbers are established and likely there are less than the Legislatively prescribed 3,000 any numbers in excess can easily be managed by rehoming with approved rehomers.

 Nor has Penny Sharpe made a declaration about how many brumbies must live in each of the four zones.

This is crucial information if she is to comply with Legislation
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Sharpe will never comply, she just makes excuses.
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The Hon. (Penny) Penelope Gail SHARPE, MLC
April 3, 2023 - Penny Sharpe was first elected to the NSW Legislative Council in October 2005. Penny is currently Labor's Shadow Minister for Planning, Environment and Heritage. In the previous Parliament Penny was Labor's Shadow Minister for Transport. In the previous Labor Government, Penny was a Parliamentary ...


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Originally posted by Take2 Take2 wrote:

all the time, conveniently forgetting dogs cats pigs and deer running rampant killing native wildlife destroying habitat as only rooting pigs do, horses allegedly standing on corroborree frogs a no no , but dogs  cats foxes and pigs actively foraging for them and digging them out its all ok.

All the "cull" will achieve, is an explosion in the numbers of Foxes Dogs Pigs and Cats , by the readily available Carrion from the cull 24/7 x 365, the interbreeding of "domestic" bred Dogs with Dingoes creates an even bigger problem.

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Sign the petition to call on the NSW Environment Minister to reject the 2021 Kosciuszko Wild Horse Management Plan to shoot horses and send them to knackeries, and instead provide additional funding for brumby rehoming and support the use of fertility control in sensitive areas of Kosciuszko National Park.

Is this such a huge ask ?  Support the use of fertility control ?
Instead of closing whole areas of the park starting tomorrow, so they can bring the guns in and start the indisciminate shooting.  And then have the nerve to tell people no horse is gut shot. They must think we are idiots.


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Below are summarised findings from the November 2023 shootings of Kosciuszko National Park's Wild Horses, documented by the National Parks & Wildlife Service in the report, "Animal Welfare Assessment of Feral Horse Aerial Shooting Kosciuszko National Park, 2023."
During the operation, two independent veterinarians were present to gather both ante-mortem (pre-death) and post-mortem (post-death) data from all targeted horses. The shootings primarily occurred in the Southern section of the park, involving four shooters who alternated every two hours over an eight-hour period.
The report highlighted limitations regarding the welfare of the horses, particularly due to the remote observation method utilised. This method necessitated presumptions of insensibility and death, rather than direct confirmation.

Unlike ground shooting, where a veterinarian can assess the absence of life, aerial shooting presents challenges in immediate confirmation.
The document mentioned that ground-based inspection was selectively conducted, mainly for horses in flat, open areas where safe landing was feasible. This option was typically exercised for the last one to two horses in a social group.
However, due to the rough and mostly inaccessible terrain in the Southern end of Kosciuszko, ground inspection it seems was often impractical.
Of the horses shot and killed, a majority were males, with all inspected horses showing three bullet wounds to the thorax.
While these details are distressing, they underscore the reality of actions taken by the National Parks & Wildlife Service and supported by the RSPCA.

Out of the 270 horses shot, assessments were carried out on only 43, confirming their demise. This highlights a challenge inherent in aerial shooting: the helicopter's inability to safely land near the targeted horse, hindering the process of locating and confirming its status.
Furthermore, in December, an additional 532 horses were shot and killed, bringing the total to 802.
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2032 shots were fired. Each horse had 3 to 15 shots including to the cranium, neck, abdomen and forelimbs.
2- 8 hour days. 35 shot were yearlings or foals and 2 were week old foals.

How  much does it cost to keep a helicopter in the air for 8 hours for 2 days, plus pay the pilot and shooters and pay for the bullets ?  Wouldnt contraceptive blocks cost less ?  But thats not on the greenie,s agenda is it ?
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Imagine a heart-pounding chase from the air, the ground a blur beneath you. Now imagine being shot –  multiple times – while running for your life. The idea of a clean, instantaneous kill from a helicopter is a fallacy. Many Brumbies are suffering horrific injuries, some dying slowly from internal bleeding or drowning in their own blood as their lungs fill with fluid.

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There are proven, non-lethal methods for managing wild horse populations. These include trapping and rehoming, fertility control, and creating sanctuaries. These options are far more humane and sustainable than the current, barbaric cull.

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From the Centre for Invasive Species Solutions: (Feral horses)

“Shooting from a moving platform can significantly detract from the shooter’s accuracy therefore helicopter shooting operations do not always result in a clean kill for all animals. Follow-up procedures are essential to ensure that all wounded animals are killed.

With aerial shooting of horses, ‘double-tap’ chest shots (2 quick shots) are most frequently made, as the heart and lungs are the largest vital area and an accurate shot is more achievable particularly within the range of unusual angles encountered when shooting from above.

Although death from a chest shot may be more certain, compared to an accurate head shot, a shot to the chest does not render the animal instantaneously insensible and time to death is slower.”

Did you get that?

A shot to the chest – is most frequently used – and does NOT result in instant death.

PLEASE do not buy into the argument politicians are using when they state the horses are humanely culled.  

How in the world could anyone call dying a slow death humane?

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Perhaps even worse Minister Penny Sharpe and Atticus Fleming acknowledged the aerial cull was done during foaling season.

They then tried to claim that they had to shoot foals that were left alone because mares abandoned their foals.

That may have been the case because horses are flight animals and when terrified  they will run for their lives. With as many as 3 helicopters hunting them down,  can you imagine the terror they experienced?

It is also likely that foals were found alone because their mothers had been shot.  And again, foals were then shot.

Who would have the heart to shoot a HEALTHY foal? Is there anything humane about the above scenario?

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For those that were interested in a copy of my Sydney Rally rant, Brumbies VS. Environment. As promised.
MY GENUINE ACCOUNT OF THE ENVIRONMENT IN KOSCIUSZKO NATIONAL PARK
The Snowy Mountain Brumbies are an icon of our Australian high-country heritage & pioneering spirit. One that should be showcased to the world & proudly promoted by our government. They appear on our currency (the $10 note & the new Australian Brumby coin) & used in the opening ceremony of the Sydney 2000 Olympics to highlight our culture to an international audience.
After several years hiking through the Park, there are a few points I would like to address regarding the environmental situation.
I have been following the brumbies in KNP for a postgraduate research thesis, in all seasons since 2015. I have had a genuine interest in seeking out areas of high density populations & the major negative impacts to ecosystems that they are having. I have not been successful!
Tantangarra reservoir, constructed by the Snowy Mountains Electricity Scheme in 1949, (therefore being a man-made water body), when drained attracts plenty of attention from the brumbies. The reservoir bed develops a lush green carpet of grasses once exposed to sunlight. It was a great sight to see the many herds coming together to intermingle along the grassy areas. Sadly, I don't think we will see that again after the massive brumby removal program of the last couple of years.
I have searched around bogs & seeps & followed brumby trails through the ranges & across the Plains but the "environmental devastation", that we hear so much about, has eluded me. Other than the single-file tracks that wind their way to the badly eroded trap sites dotted through the northern end of the Park. Due to the constant salt & molasses baits placed to attract brumby attention!
However, I have found many examples of ecosystem services, positive impacts, that are attributed to the presence of wild horses.
The diversity of insect & fungi that occurs around the dung piles have flow on effects for reptiles & insectivorous bird species. Further promoting resources for the pollinating insects, birds & mammals that go on to produce the prolific wildflower carpets in spring & summer. And facultative grazing between native fauna & wild horses which promotes vegetation proliferation.
As far as negative impacts & environmental destruction is concerned, it is no secret as to the vast damage that has & is occurring due to the Snowy Hydro 2 projects. And the lack of an Environmental Impact Assessment (& allowances created by government for this to occur) prior to construction. This has been well covered throughout the media...& the cover up of an EIA public release!
The Snowy Hydro have undoubtedly transformed & destroyed the natural mountain ecology in many parts of the Park on a mega scale since it commenced in 1949. Hydrology is an important driver in the natural cycle of any ecosystem - but the entire alpine environment in particular.
The brumbies have been described as a threatening process to various flora & fauna species. From the Corroboree Frog, Mountain Pygmy Possum, Broad-toothed Rat, skinks, freshwater crayfish & the native fish species, the Stocky Galaxias.
The two species of Corroboree Frogs, the southern on the Main Range only & the northern subspecies that inhabits areas of the range along Long Plain. Both frog subspecies are being impacted by the chytridiomycosis disease which is caused by the amphibian chytrid fungus, that is decimating frog species in several parts of the world.
It needs to be noted here that there are NO brumbies on the Main Range in the southern end of the Park. This region is dedicated to 'ski hub central' & all the resorts, ski runs, t-bars, chair lifts & the great Ski tube train that goes straight through the mountain range. All of this has cut through great swathes of vegetation, seeps & bogs, destroying everything in its path. This region is where the Mountain Pygmy Possum occurs only in the true alpine area on the highest mountains, occupying LESS than 4 square kilometres. Where there are NO brumbies! So the brumbies cannot be blamed for the declining populations of these possums either.
The Snowy Hydro construction in the northern end of the Park has inevitably impacted the habitat of the Broad-toothed Rat, another species decline that has been blamed on the wild horses. But NO or very basic information is available regarding the environmental risk assessment... a government trade-off - ECONOMICAL GAIN VS ENVIRONMENT!
Snowy Hydro have already been requested to provide an explanation & assessment & have confessed to the very possible negative impacts to the Stocky Galaxias fish, that ONLY occur in a 3 km stretch of Tantagarra Cree above a 3 metre waterfall which currently provides the fish protection from trout. The introduced predatory trout is a good economical asset (fishing permits) to the mountain waterways. Another native fish, the predatory Climbing Galaxias, along with the trout are the number 1 threats to the tiny endangered Stocky Galaxias. The Snowy Hydros current project will alter the flow rates of the creek which will further enhance the crisis for the small fish. But the brumbies are blamed for this also!
In summary, the NPWS are attempting to manage a vastly modified natural environment as a 'pristine' (in its original condition; unspoilt), yet large parts of the Park has NOT been 'pristine' for over 100 years. Cattle & sheep summer grazing in their 1000s & mining has all occurred from the mid 1800s specifically in the northern end - BRUMBY HABITAT!
The management methods for KNP need to be urgently assessed with serious modification & a realistic approach made to save what is left of this great mountain environment. Where the brumbies are & have been an integral component since our pioneering foundations.
THE BS & LIES & BUCK-PASSING NEEDS TO STOP...NOW!
SAVE OUR BRUMBIES - SAVE OUR PARK
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Above a speech given by Karen Summers in 22, at a rally. An envionmentalist who has studied the Snowy region for years.
Since her talk, nothing has changed except the hydro mod keep destroying more areas, along with the pigs, rabbits , and weekend warriors .

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Keep up the fight Acacia

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All decisions made by pen pushers and greenies who really have no idea.
Think the fight is lost 1x1.  The choppers are in there shooting now.  The areas being shot are closed to the public until next October so tourists cant see what is being done.
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