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    Posted: 15 Jan 2023 at 12:53am
I've tried several sites, facebook and some breeders and will have another go with some old and newer stallions

Below I would like help with
YEAR OF DEATH and CAUSE IF KNOWN also Height

1993 Spartacus by Snippets is he still alive
1973 Galway Bay by Sassafras died 1987 or 88? Napier Park Stud Euroa Victoria Aust

1967 Bismark by Relic died 1990? was sold in 1981 to Austalian interest - he had stood at Jim Campin's , Chequers Stud , Cambridge

1986 Prince Salieri (AUS) by Salieri-Ardsley Stud, Masterton - died 2003ish?

1991 Beautiful Crown by Chief's Crown Alanbridge Stud, N.S.W - died 2014 ?

1960 Romantic by Princely Gift - died 1973 ?
1963 Tiapan by Bold Ruler - sire in NZ
1994 Towkay (AUS) by Last Tycoon - is he still alive

1954 Messmate by Blue Peter - Balcarees Stud, Matamata NZ .. died 1975?

1978 Classic Go Go by Pago Pago - Pensioned in 1998 but when did he die

1970 Saulingo by Sing Sing -  died1984?
1973 Gwent by Welsh Pageant mid 1980's ? in Australia, NSW possibly - I had the half sister by Troy
1967 Without Fear by Baldric - died 1989 ?
1975 Zauberer by Soderini - died 1984?

1933 Talking (AUS) by Magpie died 1958 or 1959
1936 Atout Maitre by Vatout  - died 1959 / 1960
1949 Faubourg II by Vatellor - died 1971?

1936 Beau Repaire (NZ)  by Beau Pere
1941 Beau Cheval (NZ) by Beau Pere

1944 Jambo by Felicitation
1946 Makarpura by Big Game
1939 Gold Nib by Dastur died 1959?? in NZ?
1943 Port Vista by Panorama
1968 Beau Sovereign (NZ) by Sovereign Edition

1962 Sovereign Edition by Sovereign Path
1976 Wolverton by Wollow Hollow sire in NZ
1954 Copenhagen by Royal Charger  died 1980? NZ ?
1949 Knights Romance by Royal Charger died 1964? NZ?
1965 Rajah Sahib (NZ) by Pakistan II (IRE) died 1990?
1962 Holborn by Pall Mall died 1983?

1972 Imperial March (CAN) by Forli
1972 Inceptor (NZ) by Oncidium
1986 Ark Regal (NZ) by Star Way
1942 Caracalla by Tourbillon think he died in NZ 1959? or could be Columbia





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Foxbridge (1930 - 1957 died in NZ) by Foxlaw  any idea of his height
The Cobbler (1945 - 1974 died in NZ) by Windsor Slipper any idea of his height
Mid-Day Sun  (1934 - 1954 died in NZ) by Solario any idea of his height
Bellborough (1964 - 1973) by Mossborough sire in NZ any idea of his height
Tights (1981 - 1995) By Nijinsky sire in NZ any idea of his height
Ocean Park (NZ) born 2008 by Thorn Park - any idea of his height
Gold Sovereign (1957 - 1975) by Grey Sovereign - any idea of his height
Kaaptive Edition (NZ) (1989 to 2008) by Kaapstad (NZ) any idea of his height
Kaapstad (NZ) 1984 to 2006   by Sir Tristram any idea of his height
Marauding (NZ) 1984 to 2002 by Sir Tristram any idea of his height
Zabeel (NZ) and Marauding (NZ) their height please

Pakistan II (IRE) by Palestine - his height
Afghanistan by Pardal - his height
Dr Green by fusaichi pegasus - his height

Hermes (1963 to 1975) by Aureole - his height
River Rough (NZ) 1979 to 2007 by Brigand (USA) - his height
Morcon 1980 to 1997 by Morston - his height
Pretendre 1963 1972 by Doutelle - his height and maybe if know why he died so young
Oncidium 1961 to 1975 by Alcide - his height
Final Court  1953 to 1965 by Supreme Court  - his height
Showdown 1961 to 1985 by INFATUATION - his height
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This site seems to have height for some horses but not others.
Here is Sir Tristram:

https://skiboots.wixsite.com/cats
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Spartacus died in either 2006 or 2007
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I know that Rajah Sahib stood at Claude Haighs  " Balhannah Stud "  One Tree Hill , SA , if it's of any help .
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Trainer Tony MacEvoy would be of help with Without Fear , and maybe Romantic .
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The Rural Press publication, Stallions, lists height of current stallions at stud.  Its a yearly book so old ones would list some of those horses.
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so have tied the following - for Australia/NZ stallions

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https://www.stallionguide.com/stallions/
https://www.tdnausnz.com.au/
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

also used Cox Library but no replies

wrote to Vicky Leonard,Kristen Manning


just a few of the ones I've reached out to
been a bit frustrating so any help is appreciated

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Rural Press - do you have the website please
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Rural Press Ltd.

159 Bells Line of Road
North Richmond
NSW 2754
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Telephone: +61 2 4570 4444
Fax: +61 2 4570 4663
Web site: http://www.ruralpress.com

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But you already have the Stallions book there in your list above ?  Unless you want to buy one then you need to go to their bookshop site.
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But.  Stallions is a yearly publication, so to find older horses you would have to search thru the different years as its updated yearly.  I dont have the most recent one but, they used to have a list of recently died ones in the back.
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Mid-day Sun (1934) was 15.3 3/4 ... page 21, The Bloodstock Breeders' Review 1937
(We are all again greatly indebted to Mr Meyrick Good, the chief of the Sporting Life's racing staff, for colllecting and publishing measurementys of the twenty-one runners in the Derby)


Foxbridge (1930 - 1957 died in NZ) by Foxlaw  any idea of his height ... 16.0 hh ... Great Thoroughbred Sires of the World, Update - The Modern Era, page 89, published by Badranad Pty Ltd, Australia, bought from bluebloods.com.au

Kaapstad (NZ) 1984 to 2006   by Sir Tristram any idea of his height ... 16.2 hh ... same source., page 112

Marauding (NZ) 1984 to 2002 by Sir Tristram any idea of his height ... 16.2 1/2 hh ... same source., page 138

Zabeel (NZ) and Marauding (NZ) their height please ... Zabeel ... 16.2 1/2 hh ... same source., page 246 ... you asked for Marauding twice.  See previous line.

Pakistan II (IRE) by Palestine - his height ... height not given
Oncidium 1961 to 1975 by Alcide - his height ... height not given
Showdown 1961 to 1985 by INFATUATION - his height ... height not given


1962 Sovereign Edition by Sovereign Path ...  Great Thoroughbred Sires of the World, Update - The Modern Era, published by Badranad Pty Ltd, Australia, bought from bluebloods.com.au ...  page 213, "Sovereign Edition died on 2nd January 1983, a few weeks after he was retired from sud duties because of his failoing health.  He was 21 years of age." ... height not given

1936 Atout Maitre by Vatout  - died 1959 / 1960 ... The Great Stallion Book by Richard Ulbrich, page 30 ... "he stood 16.2 1/2 h.h."

1967 Without Fear by Baldric - died 1989 ? ... height not given, cause of death not given, date of death not given Great Thoroughbred Sires of the World, Update - The Modern Era, page 242


Thoroughbred Breeders' Handbook, 4th Edition by David J Lonergan and Bertram M Wicks
1963 Tiapan by Bold Ruler - sire in NZ ... died 1983 (Taipan not Tiapan)
1962 Sovereign Edition by Sovereign Path ... died 1982
1976 Wolverton by Wollow Hollow sire in NZ ... died 1987
1962 Holborn by Pall Mall died 1983? ... died 1983
1972 Imperial March (CAN) by Forli ... exported to South Africa 1982


A list sorted by name would be easier to research.

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Many thanks for coming back with this information - very much appreciate
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1936 Atout Maitre by Vatout  - died 1959 / 1960


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1986 Ark Regal (NZ) by Star Way




 

1956 Afghanistan by Pardal - his height




1967 Bismark by Relic died 1990? was sold in 1981 to Austalian interest - he had stood at Jim Campin's , Chequers Stud , Cambridge

1991 Beautiful Crown by Chief's Crown Alanbridge Stud, N.S.W - died 2014 ?

1936 Beau Repaire (NZ)  by Beau Pere




1941 Beau Cheval (NZ) by Beau Pere




1968 Beau Sovereign (NZ) by Sovereign Edition



1964 Bellborough (1964 - 1973) by Mossborough sire in NZ any idea of his height

1978 Classic Go Go by Pago Pago - Pensioned in 1998 but when did he die

1954 Copenhagen by Royal Charger  died 1980? NZ ?



1942 Caracalla by Tourbillon think he died in NZ 1959? or could be Columbia

2002 Dr Green by fusaichi pegasus - his height




1953 Final Court  1953 to 1965 by Supreme Court  - his height


1949 Faubourg II by Vatellor - died 1971?




1930 Foxbridge (1930 - 1957 died in NZ) by Foxlaw  any idea of his height

CLOSED

1973 Galway Bay by Sassafras died 1987 or 88? Napier Park Stud Euroa Victoria Aust

1973 Gwent by Welsh Pageant mid 1980's ? in Australia, NSW possibly - I had the half sister by Troy

1939 Gold Nib by Dastur died 1959?? in NZ?



1957 Gold Sovereign (1957 - 1975) by Grey Sovereign - any idea of his height

1962 Holborn by Pall Mall died 1983?



CLOSED

1963 Hermes (1963 to 1975) by Aureole - his height



1972 Imperial March (CAN) by Forli



CLOSED

1972 Inceptor (NZ) by Oncidium





1944 Jambo by Felicitation





1989 Kaaptive Edition (NZ) (1989 to 2008) by Kaapstad (NZ) any idea of his height

1949 Knights Romance by Royal Charger died 1964? NZ?


Kaapstad (NZ) 1984 to 2006   by Sir Tristram any idea of his height

CLOSED

Mid-Day Sun  (1934 - 1954 died in NZ) by Solario any idea of his height

CLOSED

Marauding (NZ) 1984 to 2002 by Sir Tristram any idea of his height

CLOSED

1954 Messmate by Blue Peter - Balcarees Stud, Matamata NZ .. died 1975?

1946 Makarpura by Big Game





1980 Morcon 1980 to 1997 by Morston - his height



2008 Ocean Park (NZ) born 2008 by Thorn Park - any idea of his height


1961 Oncidium 1961 to 1975 by Alcide - his height


CLOSED

1963 Pretendre 1963 to 1972 by Doutelle - his height and maybe if know why he died so young

1986 Prince Salieri (AUS) by Salieri-Ardsley Stud, Masterton - died 2003ish?

1943 Port Vista by Panorama





1958 Pakistan II (IRE) by Palestine - his height



CLOSED

1979 River Rough (NZ) 1979 to 2007 by Brigand (USA) - his height


1960 Romantic by Princely Gift - died 1973 ?



1965 Rajah Sahib (NZ) by Pakistan II (IRE) died 1990?


1961 Showdown 1961 to 1985 by INFATUATION - his height

CLOSED

1993 Spartacus by Snippets is he still alive




1970 Saulingo by Sing Sing -  died1984?




1962 Sovereign Edition by Sovereign Path



CLOSED

1945 The Cobbler (1945 - 1974 died in NZ) by Windsor Slipper any idea of his height

1981 Tights (1981 - 1995) By Nijinsky sire in NZ any idea of his height


1963 Taipan by Bold Ruler - sire in NZ



CLOSED

1994 Towkay (AUS) by Last Tycoon - is he still alive



1933 Talking (AUS) by Magpie died 1958 or 1959



1967 Without Fear by Baldric - died 1989 ?


CLOSED

1976 Wolverton by Wollow Hollow sire in NZ


CLOSED

1986 Zabeel (NZ) and Marauding (NZ) their height please


CLOSED

1975 Zauberer by Soderini - died 1984?




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Gold Nib died Jan 1959 internal injury at Kempton Park Stud
Beau Chevel died 1956
Beau Repaire (NZ) - died March 1958
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Sydney trainer Frank Dalton had a lovely 2 y/o called Aboukir , by Gold Nib from Egyption Rose , very talented and a good type , mid 50s , another of my favourites . 
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Knights Romance died 1964 suddenly at West Derby Stud, NZ- sired mainly sprinters - full brother to Pride of Kildare.

Strange but his full brother Pride of Kildare died the same year
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