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Posted: 07 Apr 2024 at 8:28pm |
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Posted: 07 Apr 2024 at 8:44pm |
Lot 175 goes for $350k to Newgate etc.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 6:26pm |
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After purchasing 5 youngsters for $2.68m incl GST Resolute Racing USA pays $3m for Lot 443, the filly by IAI from the Gp1 winning Written Tycoon mare Booker.
That's $6m thus far.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 7:29pm |
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Lot 193 by Justify sells for just $80k, rather cheap if its page is any guide. Then I see he's listed as being 16.5 hands tall. Does that mean this young fellow is actually about 17 hands high??l
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Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 7:57pm |
An another couple adding all up to a $7.5m outlay.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 8:36pm |
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Counted a couple twice.
He only spent $6m inclusive of GST.That made him 3rd biggest buyer $-wise behind Debbie and the various Newgate consortiums.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 9:00pm |
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Maybe I was too cynical.
Was thinking DK was run up deluxe.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2024 at 9:32pm |
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No I think he wanted her but I'm glad he stopped when he did. Might of broke Debbie's heart if she went to dear for them to get her.
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Posted: 10 Apr 2024 at 5:48pm |
That's massive for a yearling I would think , interesting to see open its knees are , could end up a draft horse .
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Posted: 06 Apr 2025 at 11:26am |
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Any thoughts on the sale?
Heading out to look today. A few sheckles to spend but will be keeping my hands in my pockets
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Posted: 06 Apr 2025 at 1:27pm |
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Will be a good sale I think some nice types. But nothing to compare to the Winx foal last year.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2025 at 7:39pm |
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Buoyant sale thus far. Plastics will need plenty to buy into one changing hands at a realistic price, let alone those sold for overs.
So many top lots but will be keeping a future eye on Lot 82 sold to Calico Bloodstock for $450k which is way beyond our ability to purchase a minor share should it be offered.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2025 at 8:29pm |
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Yes I've had to knock out quite a few because they have gone over $1,000,000. But the types are very nice this year. Some lesser pedigrees really selling well when the resulting yearling is spectacular. That grey Extreme Choice will be almost white before it races. Wont miss him in the run that's for sure.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2025 at 9:58pm |
I had a list of a dozen that I liked. He was one of them. Stunningly good looking boy 💕 I’ve given up trying to figure out how much they’ll sell for
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Posted: 07 Apr 2025 at 8:55am |
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Whats the take on the $3m Home Affairs colt? A Coolmore owned mare by a Coolmore owned sire... nice way to put a good marketing spin on your own sire? Will be interesting to see the eventual owners of this one with Gai.
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Posted: 07 Apr 2025 at 10:22am |
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Mare is listed as owned by Katom. Anyone know anything about its principals?
But yes it'll be interesting to see who ends up in the ownership.
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Posted: 07 Apr 2025 at 10:33am |
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Singleton is one by the looks of things. It certainly wasn't hard watching. So many lovely types. It will be interesting to see if the performance matches there good looks. Lots looked very sensible also. Only a few played up in the ring. And not many crawlers (timid ones) that I could see.
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Posted: 07 Apr 2025 at 1:13pm |
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SC, Shout the Bar was purchased at the 2022 Chairmans by Tom Magnier for 2.7m. Katom is an offshoot of Coolmore, as referred to by TBNSW as "Coolmore concern Katom...". My bet is the eventual owner will be Coolmore, but we'll have to wait and see....
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Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 5:47pm |
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This is what i hate. Wish we could see the bids, can guarantee it was ran up. If it wasnt a Coolmore sire, they would of got it half that price!
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Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 5:50pm |
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They bid up big on some of those Snitzels the Coolmore boys.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 6:21pm |
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Not that I'm saying this is the case here, however:
You see horses wholly or largely owned by the vendor knocked down for apparent overs to the actual vendor. Let's say for $2m, or $2,200,000 after GST, though the animal is only worth about half that amount. The vendors pay out the $2,200,000, receive about $1,800,000 back in hand and retain a controlling interest of 50% valued at $900,000. They then on-sell the remainder to others in five shares @ at $220,000 apiece for a total of $1,100,000 (half of $2.2m gross sale price). At the end of the day the vendor/purchaser ends up with half a horse and $2m in cash ($900,000 plus $1,100,000). So they've effectively retained 50% of the yearling at a cost of $220,000. A trifle simplistic however...
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Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 7:03pm |
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And another ploy by vendors, in this case a specific broodmare's yearlings however no names no pack drill just in case.
Two years in a row the vendors offered a yearling out of the same mare: all good, and good luck to them looking for a decent Return on Investment. However both yearlings were buy-backs by the vendors, presumably because they didn't meet their reserves. However why would they buy-back rather than simply passing in both lots? Ok there's possibly a penalty for passing in, but not as much as the GST payable on the buy-back. Well the answer appears pretty clear, and it all relates to the sale price rather than the level of genuine interest: they run the price up to just below the (very probably excessive) reserve, no-one else has been in the bidding for a while and therefore doesn't else meet it, and they then instruct the auctioneer to accept their (disguised) bid. And then offer shares in the yearlings at a pro-rata proportion of the sold price plus costs incurred and profit margin. And given the broodmare was ultra successful in two states they'll certainly dispose of the shares quick smart.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 8:05pm |
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I looked at one colt and they told me he was a rig. Not listed in the catalogue as such but Still sold for over 400k
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Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 8:13pm |
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Hope the new owners get a discount on the gelding op PL!
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Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 8:15pm |
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I suspect that price is heavily discounted. In tact they were looking at well over a million I would have thought 😱
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Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 10:08pm |
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SC, and then you get the ones Mishani Bloodstock do at sales like the MM Capricornia. They breed the yearling, and then buy them 'back', well not really, at the sale. They were never for sale in the first place, it's just to get them in to the MM series. And then b4 each Magic Millions, MM themselves promote these sales as being cheapies who have been picked up for nothing and running in the MM. They were bought by the breeder, they weren't sold at all..
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Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 10:58pm |
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Again, very interesting observations from you all, and particularly fine detective work by pn and SC … disheartening, though, what goes on behind those glamorous sales scenes
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