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Tlazolteotl 
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 Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 6:05pm |
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The French held the Olympics all over France and they didn't build much new stuff.
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rusty nails
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 6:12pm |
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The bit about do it properly, is the only bit where we disagree.
To spend $3B+ on a stadium in Brisbane is utter madness. This bit about each Olympics has to be much be bigger and better than ever, is just garbage IMO. That worked when there were multiple cities desperate to host, but that’s history. The corrupt free loaders can just cop what we give. They are parasites. Sydney probably did it better than most, there aren’t that many white elephants, left to rot after the circus has moved on.
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Second Chance
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 6:15pm |
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Thanks Tlaz. I think.
 Victoria pulled the pin on the Commonwealth games despite, like France, not having to spend millions on sporting infrastructure. However it did so because of a subsequent negative cost/benefit analysis. Would be delighted to view a similar, independent business model for the Brisbane Olympics. |
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 6:23pm |
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Has a consultant ever been appointed that didn’t work backwards from the preferred recommendation?
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 9:59pm |
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Rusty, on corruption, I'll see your IOC and raise you a FIFA, which is the equivalent of holding 90% of the chips on the table and calling all in.
Case in point, Saudi Arabia gaining hosting rights for the 2034 World Cup, they introduced a new rule that a Confederation can only host every third cycle at a minimum, as Qatar hosted in 2022, that ruled Asia out, 2026 was given to the USA and friends, ruling North America out until 2038, 2030 was then given initially to Spain, Portugal and Morocco, ruling both Europe and Africa out until 2042, leaving only South America, Asia and Oceania in the race for 2034, there was some protesting from South America about not being given hosting rights in 2030 given it was the centenary of the 1930 tournament hosted in Uruguay, no problem, no problem, lets have Paraguay, Uruguay and Argentina all play their first game of the tournament at home before travelling over to Iberia for the rest of the tournament. These 3 games mean that South America (who last hosted in 2014) now cannot host the tournament again until 2042. Meaning the 2034 tournament could only be hosted in Asia or Oceania. FIFA with no notice announced that the 2034 host decision would be brought forward 12 months, right on cue the AFC President declared Saudi Arabia (who had been wining and dining AFC and FIFA suits for a while leading into this) as their preferred host, unfortunately the Solomon Islands and Tonga were unable to get everything ready for their joint bid from the OFC. Saudi Arabia were given the hosting rights unopposed. The way it all runs Bahrain 2048 is already an odds on favourite. Yet this tail is most likely dwarfed by the truth of the Septic Blatter era at FIFA. As for the topic at hand I do agree that there is no logical reason to spend billions on sporting facilities that will likely not provide long term legacy value for Brisbane, the oval stadium is probably needed, anyone who has been to the Gabba knows this, but a $4 billion plus 63k seater stadium is surplus to requirements. How many people attend athletics meets in Australia that aren't family of competitors?
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Posted: 27 Mar 2025 at 10:54pm |
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I can't find a final figure for the cost of the paris olympics but the number might be around USD 9,000,000 or AUD 14,000,000. I vaguely remember that about EUR 1 billion was to be spent cleaning up the seine but that made just a minor difference to water quality for swimming.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2025 at 7:56am |
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Sky News headline: The Queensland government will spend up to 500 million dollars if it keeps the Gabba operational until the 2032 Olympics.
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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 28 Mar 2025 at 12:19pm |
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Qlders have given themselves a bit of work to do and the following list from the abc website - only mentions the games village in passing and does not mention upgrades to the gabba in the meantime (if that happens). Given the organisers track record to date it will be interesting to see what does or doesn’t get done. No costs are given for each project. No one ever talks about the cost of security and I reckon that will be a big ticket item given round the clock security will be required. Brisbane 2032 Olympic Games venues: New Victoria Park
stadium headlines in-progress list - ABC News New Brisbane Stadium: Events to
be held: Athletics The headliner
of the government's announcement was a new 63,000-seat stadium at Victoria Park
on the north side of the Brisbane CBD. Will become a new home for AFL and
cricket after the Games. New National Aquatic Centre: Events to
be held: Swimming, artistic swimming, diving, water polo The
existing Centenary Pool at Spring Hill will be redeveloped to become a new
national hub for Australia's four peak aquatic sports. With temporary seating
it will hold more than 25,000 spectators for the Brisbane Games Queensland Tennis Centre: Events to
be held: Tennis The
existing tennis centre at Tennyson will receive a substantial upgrade, creating
a new 3,000-seat show court and 12 new match courts. RNA Showgrounds: Events to
be held: TBA The
Brisbane Showgrounds will receive an upgrade to allow it to hold 20,000 people,
though no events have been confirmed for the venue yet. The Brisbane athletes'
village will also be within the Showgrounds precinct. Redland Whitewater Centre: Events to
be held: Paddle sports A new
whitewater rafting centre will be constructed in the future Birkdale Community
Precinct. Logan Indoor Sports Centre: Events to
be held: TBA A new
multi-sport venue to be constructed, which could host a number of indoor
events. Moreton Bay Indoor Sports Centre: Events to
be held: TBA A new
multi-sport venue to be constructed in Petrie, which could host a number of
indoor events. Anna Meares Velodrome and Brisbane BMX Centre: Events to
be held: Track cycling and BMX Both
venues, situated within the Chandler Sports Precinct, are already of
international standard and will require only minor works to be ready for the
Games. Sunshine Coast Stadium: Events to
be held: TBA Existing
stadium within the Kawana Sports Precinct will receive an upgrade from 1,046 to
10,680 permanent seats. Toowoomba Showgrounds: Events to
be held: Equestrian The
showgrounds will receive an upgrade to enable it to host equestrian events
during the Games. Brisbane International Shooting Centre: Events to
be held: Shooting Already of
an international standard, the indoor range will receive a minor upgrade to
enable temporary seating for up to 2,000 spectators. Gold Coast Hockey Centre: Events to
be held: Hockey The
existing centre will receive a significant upgrade to allow it host hockey
events during the Games. New Gold Coast Stadium: Events to
be held: TBA Para-sport Facility: Events to
be held: Various para-sports The
existing Chandler Sports Precinct will be upgraded to become a hub for
para-sports during the Games and a leading training facility beyond 2032. Sunshine Coast Mountain Bike Centre: Events to
be held: TBA The
existing centre in the Parklands Conservation Park will receive an upgrade. Barlow Park Stadium: Events to
be held: Football The
existing Barlow Park ground in Cairns will receive a major upgrade with a new
5,000-seater grandstand and will host football during the Games. North Queensland Stadium: Events to
be held: Football The
existing North Queensland Stadium in Townsville will not require any upgrades
to host football during the Games. Harrup Park: Events to
be held: Cricket (if chosen as an Olympic sport) Mackay's
Harrup Park will receive an upgrade to allow it to host cricket during the
Games, should it be selected as an Olympic sport for 2032 by the IOC. Other confirmed locations: Sailing
events will be held in Townsville and the Whitsundays, while the rowing and
canoe sprint events will be held on Rockhampton's Fitzroy River. Maryborough
will host archery and the triathlon will be held through the Gold Coast. |
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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 28 Mar 2025 at 4:41pm |
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A quick internet search for security costs for both London and Paris olympics suggests costs were about AUD 700 million each although there are a lot higher figures than this floating around. I seem to recall reading that Paris was so disorganised that security personnel were sleeping in their cars because they hadn't arranged enough accommodation. Anyway by the time Brisbane rolls around and with high wage costs in Aus I reckon AUD 1 billion for security is not impossible.
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Posted: 31 Mar 2025 at 3:09pm |
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Edited from a website 'The Converation'
Both Paris 2024 and Los Angeles 2028 made voluntary pledges (to be 'climate-positive'). But Brisbane 2032 was the first contractually required to be climate-positive. This was enshrined in the original 2021 Olympic Host Contract, an agreement between the IOC, the State of Queensland, Brisbane City Council and the Australian Olympic Committee. But the host contract has quietly changed since. All references to “climate-positive” have been replaced with weaker terminology. The move was not publicly announced. This fits a broader pattern of Olympic Games promising big on sustainability before weakening or abandoning commitments over time. |
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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 29 Apr 2025 at 8:23pm |
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From abc sport
(geez you would think most sports would struggle with proving they are "financial positive" if they require purpose built facilities and they cant sell stacks of spectator tickets after the games are an ongoing basis). Brisbane Organising Committee boss Andrew Liveris told the ABC in a wide-ranging interview that any sports added to the Brisbane Games needed to have a "financial positive" and "it can't be criteria that's a flight of fancy." He has since told ABC Sport that the committee's focus is working with bodies, including the IOC, International Paralympic Committee, sports federations and AOC, to finalise the sport program. |
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Posted: 29 Apr 2025 at 8:59pm |
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I wonder after all the spending is done, does a city like Brisbane hosting the Olympics, make a profit on their return through tourism and economy ? Does the country at large see a big return, is it even measurable ?
If not why bother going to all the trouble of hosting them ? The costs are 200% guaranteed to blow out, where on earth does all this money come from ?
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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 29 Apr 2025 at 11:35pm |
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Sadiq Khan outlines plan for London to host
'brilliant' and 'very cheap' Olympics
Sadiq Khan wants London to bid for the 2040 Olympics and insists the capital can host the Games
‘brilliantly’ and ‘very cheaply’. …… The London
2012 Olympic Games cost a total of £8.77 billion – three times the original
budget of £2.4 billion. |
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Posted: 08 May 2025 at 10:50am |
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from abc website
In short:The heritage-protected Rockhampton Railway Workshops have been selected as the site for an Olympic Games athletes' village. The project will be exempt from planning laws, putting the railway roundhouse at risk. What's next?The athletes' village is to be turned into legacy housing after the Games. |
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Tlazolteotl
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Posted: 10 May 2025 at 10:55am |
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Dr Christian Krekel of the London School of Economics on impact of the Olympics on people’s health: “We
always hear these grand claims from politicians about how the Olympics
has a lasting impact on healthy behaviours, but this does not hold up to
reality. Our research shows that London 2012 nudged some previously
inactive people to engage in physical activity. But once the event ends,
it fades quite quickly.” https://www.smh.com.au/sport/earth-to-bleak-city-there-s-more-to-life-than-the-brodes-and-bucks-journey-20250509-p5lxwz.html |
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Posted: 11 May 2025 at 12:16am |
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Waste of taxpayers money, send the country more broke
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Posted: 26 Jun 2025 at 12:05pm |
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Abc News online All
venues to be built for the 2032 Brisbane Olympic and Paralympic Games,
including the Victoria Park stadium, are set to be exempt from major planning
rules. The Queensland government will introduce a bill to parliament
today to give the Games Independent Infrastructure and Coordination Authority
(GIICA) power to override 15 planning laws. This includes the Environmental Protection Act, the Planning Act,
the Queensland Heritage Act, the Local Government Act, and the Nature
Conservation Act. |
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Posted: 30 Jun 2025 at 8:16pm |
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Ch9 news - qld govt complaining vic get an unfair share of elbows revenue. reckon qld have an olympics they cant afford and need to steal a lot of $ from another state
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Posted: 30 Jun 2025 at 8:57pm |
going to be interesting, land rights could complicate Angry Jarrods plan
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Posted: 03 Jul 2025 at 2:53pm |
The final cost of hosting the 2024 Paris Olympics and Paralympics is estimated at approximately $8.2 billion USD (around €7.5 billion), making it the sixth most expensive Olympic Games to date. Breakdown of Costs
While the Paris Games were more cost-effective compared to events like the Tokyo 2020 Olympics (which cost over $13 billion), they still exceeded initial budget projections, reflecting the common trend of cost overruns in hosting the Olympics. |
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acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we meet and pay my respects to their Elders past and present
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Posted: 03 Jul 2025 at 5:04pm |
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from abc news
The Queensland and federal governments have reached a funding agreement for the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games, with a total of $7.1 billion earmarked for development. The Commonwealth government will contribute $3.435 billion, with the state government set to pick up the remainder. Minor venues will be funded through a 50:50 split between the governments. Commonwealth contribution now about $1 billion more than the last agreement. Don't think this includes security costs which will be a staggering sum. So much for no cost olympics. |
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from abc news
In short:Infrastructure Australia data forecasts Queensland will have less than half the construction workers necessary to meet demand when work begins on Olympic venues. Deputy premier Jarrod Bleijie is confident productivity gains and interstate workers will help offset the shortage. What's next?Construction on venues for the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games is expected to begin early next year. guess this will drive up venue costs eh
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TR, is there maybe a cautionary here regarding Tasmania's ability or otherwise to provide enough skilled workers to timely construct a stadium in Hobart for a nascent Tassie AFL side???
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from abc website
been quite a few variations to this story since the games bid was first announced. has a sod been turned yet The Commonwealth has agreed to contribute just under half the cost of building the 2032 Olympic Games venues, under a deal struck with the Queensland government. The federal government will provide no more than $3.43 billion towards the building of 17 new and upgraded venues for the Games, with the infrastructure expected to cost $7.1 billion in total. A significant proportion of that contribution will be spent on the new 63,000-seat stadium at Victoria Park and 25,000-seat National Aquatic Centre in Spring Hill. |
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I havent got a clear picture of this but I gather the Qld premier has spat the dummy over the revised cost cost of the brisbane olympics. I got news for him its gunna get a lot worse. And then there is the cost if security. Govt needs to get the money printing press going. Geez most govts are full of dills when it comes to the cost of olympics
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Posted: 05 Mar 2026 at 1:06pm |
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after the recent winter olympics in italy several suggested we should try for here - this is what Vancouver found when they looked at holding the 2030 winter olympics (CBC canada website)
So when Vancouver, Whistler, and several B.C. First Nations groups decided to explore a bid for the 2030 Winter Games, moving forward seemed as straight-forward as an empty-net goal. Except those major infrastructure projects, while not directly part of the Olympic budget, did factor into the overall cost of hosting the Games, which a University of British Columbia study estimated at $7 billion. So in 2022 the provincial government, bothered by the prospect of high costs, withdrew its support from the potential bid, and the idea never moved forward. |
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