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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 17 Aug 2025 at 3:28pm |
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from bbc website
US President Donald Trump's actions have brought the end of the war in Ukraine "closer than ever before", Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has said. His statement comes despite the fact that Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin failed to reach a deal on a ceasefire at a summit in Alaska on Friday. He also said the "path to peace in Ukraine" cannot be decided without Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, and that the UK's "unwavering support" will continue for as long as it takes. |
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Posted: 17 Aug 2025 at 6:10pm |
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I told you Starmer was a dill.
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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 18 Aug 2025 at 2:51pm |
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Just listening to abc tv midday news and my take is that the europeans are suddenly worried that not only will trump sell ukraine down the river european nato will be on the boat as well. maybe the europeans will have to find some backbone
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Posted: 18 Aug 2025 at 2:57pm |
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Yes they are worried Latvia and Estonia will be next in Putin's quest to get the old Soviet band back together.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2025 at 3:01pm |
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Also why Finland and Sweden rushed to join NATO in 2023-24 after decades of resisting thecall to join.
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Posted: 18 Aug 2025 at 3:18pm |
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They’ve been taking the proverbial for years. About time they step up, albeit at the behest of Donald
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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 11 Sep 2025 at 3:20am |
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Seems the Russians can send their drones anywhere they please now with just an insipid response from nato countries. Wont be long until Eastern europe is part of the russian empire unless nato sends troops in to tell uncle vlad he is on the tram
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Carl Sagan
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Posted: 11 Sep 2025 at 5:59am |
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it's all an illusion.
Carl.
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Posted: 12 Sep 2025 at 7:44am |
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Ukrainian Armed Forces dismantled several shot down drones and found that the majority of the components are not from ruZZia.... |
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Posted: 12 Sep 2025 at 9:45am |
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The 'Banderol' (also spelled 'BanderoL' in some transliterations) refers to the S8000 cruise missile, a lightweight, low-cost, air-launched weapon developed by Russia's Kronstadt Group (Kronshtadt JSC), a defense firm specializing in unmanned systems like the Orion drone. It entered combat use in Ukraine around April-May 2025, primarily launched from Orion UAVs and reportedly adapted for Mi-28N attack helicopters. The name "Banderol" is Russian for "parcel" or "package," possibly alluding to its compact, modular design.Key specifications include:
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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 13 Sep 2025 at 9:11am |
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todays Age reports that trump has said the russian drones entering polish airspace 'could have been a mistake'
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Posted: 13 Sep 2025 at 9:51am |
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ooops, drone attack...sorry.
Trump did everything but apologize to Vlad.
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Posted: 13 Sep 2025 at 12:40pm |
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Where’s Obama when you need a stray drone killing kids and innocents
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Posted: 13 Sep 2025 at 1:15pm |
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Or obliterate a boat full of fishermen.
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Tom Rolfe
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Posted: 20 Sep 2025 at 12:38pm |
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from Age website
London: Russian fighter jets have triggered a security alert over Europe by flying over Estonian territory before being intercepted by NATO aircraft, just as the European Union unveils more economic sanctions against Russia over its war on Ukraine. The three Russian jets violated Estonian airspace for 12 minutes in a provocative move that heightens tensions with NATO allies after Russian drones flew over Poland and Romania in recent days. |
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Posted: 20 Sep 2025 at 12:41pm |
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Nothing from suckhole President poopy panties about that.
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Declaration of Independence, signed after The Civil War. Trump said so.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2025 at 12:43pm |
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Hear him yesterday or day before in London? Disappointed Putin hasn't stopped doing this stuff for him.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2025 at 1:20pm |
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"But but but...I've met Putin. He is a beautiful man. Beautiful."
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Posted: 20 Sep 2025 at 3:07pm |
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Great to see the Europeans stepping up, finally Well done Donald for shaking the sense into them
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Posted: 20 Sep 2025 at 10:24pm |
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acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we meet and pay my respects to their Elders past and present
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Posted: 20 Sep 2025 at 10:25pm |
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Dead set lollipop
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acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we meet and pay my respects to their Elders past and present
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Posted: 21 Sep 2025 at 10:36am |
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ooh ahh
and your side isnt violent..... |
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Posted: 25 Sep 2025 at 11:39am |
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from bbc website
Vladimir Putin "will keep driving the war forward wider and deeper" if he is not stopped, Ukraine's President Zelensky has warned. Speaking at the UN's General Assembly in New York, Zelensky said more countries would be met with Russian aggression unless allies displayed a united front and ramped up support. He said all nations were threatened by a global arms race, as military technology advances, adding that "weapons decide who survives" and calling for global rules on AI. His comments come after US President Donald Trump shifted his position on the Russia-Ukraine war, saying for the first time that Ukraine could win back all of its land. |
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Posted: 19 Nov 2025 at 7:28pm |
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from nbc news
KYIV, Ukraine — Ukraine’s military said Tuesday it had attacked military targets in Russia with U.S.-supplied ATACMS missiles, calling it a “significant development.” Ukraine has not previously stated openly that it uses the advanced U.S.-provided ballistic missile systems on targets inside Russia, although the restriction on doing so was lifted by the outgoing Biden administration a year ago. “The use of long-range strike capabilities, including systems such as ATACMS, will continue,” the military general staff said in a statement on Tuesday. Kyiv received the systems in 2023 but was initially restricted to using them only on its own territories, nearly a fifth of which are occupied by Russia. |
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Posted: 22 Nov 2025 at 11:15am |
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ANZAC Drone
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Posted: 22 Nov 2025 at 12:28pm |
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Should have happened a long time ago, thing about post war peacetime is it breeds complacency and lack of preparation for the next war.
Carl.
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I see the US 28 Point Peace Plan for solving the war has now become a 19 Point Peace Plan.
The new plan still appears to favour Russia big-time however it's refreshing to see that under the revised plan Zelenskyy is no longer obliged to suck Putin's engorged joystick in addition to signing on to any agreement. What Putin and Trump might need to do together is apparently in draft form as part of the addenda to an agreement, however joining together in a duet covering Innumerable Forms' heavy rock chant/song "Despotic Rule (Rules)" has been suggested. My tip: an agreement will ultimately be agreed upon by all parties, though in about 6 or 12 months time Russia will raise its middle finger figure to the world and commence a full-scale, successful invasion of Ukraine.
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Posted: 26 Nov 2025 at 6:25pm |
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As per The Conversation:
A point-by-point breakdownA closer look at just a selection of its key points illustrates just how bizarre the plan is.
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It takes a wise man a lifetime to grow a tree and a fool five minutes to kill one.
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Gay, if you could post this article in full I'd appreciate it. Don't care who wrote it or why, but it's good stuff.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20251125-the-tyranny-of-geography-ukraines-fatal-gamble/ The tyranny of geography: Ukraine’s fatal gambleFew conflicts in modern times better demonstrate the tyranny of geography than the war in Ukraine. At its center is Crimea, a peninsula whose ownership has been fought over for centuries-a sad reminder that, geopolitically, location largely determines destiny. Once the historical homeland of the Crimean Tatars, it was annexed by Russia in 1783, fought over in the nineteenth-century Crimean War, and transferred to Ukraine in 1954 during the Soviet era. At the time, the move was administrative, almost trivial. No one imagined that the Soviet Union would collapse and leave Crimea under Kyiv’s control, setting the stage for a conflict that would claim hundreds of thousands of lives. When it dissolved in 1991, the USSR bequeathed Crimea to Ukraine along with a nuclear arsenal that it later gave up in return for security guarantees. A weakened and impoverished Russia under Boris Yeltsin did nothing to question that settlement. Yet the seeds of future conflict were already being planted. NATO’s eastward expansion brought the alliance to Russia’s doorstep. For the Kremlin, Ukraine’s flirtation with NATO membership was not simply unwelcome; it was existential. Geography made it so. Ukraine’s leaders knew this. They knew that Russia would never accept NATO on its border without a fight. Yet they pressed forward anyway, “poking the bear,” as critics have argued. The result has been catastrophic: a war of attrition, the destruction of cities, hundreds of thousands dead, the displacement of millions, the loss of territory, and a permanent rupture with Moscow. Putin’s rhetoric about “Nazis” in Ukraine may be propaganda, but it resonates with Russian memories of wartime collaboration during World War II. History, geography, and deep-rooted mistrust combined to make Ukraine’s NATO ambitions a fatal gamble. Now that Washington is imposing a controversial peace framework, the bitter lesson is clear. A 28-point plan pushed by the Trump administration—largely the product of secret negotiations between U.S. envoy Steve Witkoff and his Russian counterpart Kirill Dmitriev—would force Ukraine to cede occupied territories, forsake NATO membership, and drastically circumscribe its military capabilities. The proposed agreement would require Kyiv to acknowledge Crimea and the Donbas as Russian, to slash its armed forces by more than half, and to accede to the establishment of a demilitarized buffer zone in territories it currently controls. In return, the plan provides for security guarantees though the precise nature of those assurances remains murky. The proposal has put Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in an impossible position. In a somber address to his nation last week, he described the moment as “truly one of the most difficult” in Ukraine’s history, warning that his country faces an agonizing choice. “Ukraine may now face a tough choice: the loss of dignity, or the risk of losing a key partner,” he said, without naming the United States directly. The pressure from Washington is intense. Trump has demanded Zelensky’s answer by Thanksgiving, with the implicit threat that continued resistance could mean the end of American support. “If things are working well, you tend to extend the deadlines,” Trump remarked in a radio interview, “but Thursday is it.” But Zelensky has not given up yet. In a strong address in which he acknowledged the somberness of the moment, he swore that Ukraine would defend its sovereignty and dignity. “From the first days of the war, we have upheld one straightforward position: Ukraine needs peace with terms that respect our independence, our sovereignty, and the dignity of the Ukrainian people,” he said. European leaders have rallied behind Ukraine, though in carefully worded statements to avoid antagonizing the Trump administration. EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas said Russia has “no legal right whatsoever to any concessions from the country it invaded.” German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, French President Emmanuel Macron, and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer vowed their “unchanged and full support” for Ukraine’s quest for a “lasting and just peace.” European officials, blindsided by the U.S.-Russia negotiations, are now scrambling to present their own counter-proposals. Russia has predictably welcomed the framework, with President Vladimir Putin announcing that the plan “could form the basis for a final peace settlement,” and simultaneously warning that should Ukraine fail to negotiate, Russian forces will continue their offensive and seize more cities. Earlier this year, Putin proclaimed that Russians and Ukrainians are “one people” and that “all of Ukraine is ours, “a chilling echo of imperial ambitions, making any peace agreement seem precarious at best. The tragedy of Ukraine is the consequence not only of Russian aggression but also of a miscalculation about the iron laws of geography. Ukraine’s leaders gambled that Western support would be enough to deter or defeat Russia, that NATO membership was in sight, and that determination and international law could surmount geography. They were mistaken. The distance between Kyiv and Moscow, the historical grievances, the strategic imperatives-all conspired to make this confrontation inevitable once Ukraine moved toward the West. As Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institution observed, “Giving up any land voluntarily when Russia has stolen 19 per cent of Ukraine already since 2014 just seems completely illegitimate.” Yet the harsh reality is that Ukraine may not have a choice. Geography has imposed its verdict. Borders, as Ukraine is learning at terrible cost, are destiny. And those who defy that destiny—however noble their aspirations—often reap misery beyond measure. The question now is not whether Ukraine made the right choice in pursuing Western integration but how much more it will be forced to sacrifice before acknowledging what geography has dictated all along. Edited by Gay3 - 26 Nov 2025 at 7:41pm |
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