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My Melb Cup odds etc,(for a giggle) |
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Topic: My Melb Cup odds etc,(for a giggle)Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 9:37am |
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My Rated Horses to 50/1, which include variables such as my
Vuillier interpretations and pedigree profiles, which I am still working out Weight implications of, probably still missed the
winner, and NO I would not lay parchment
Party. Most of all good luck with your fancies and enjoy the day
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change is simply a destination on a journey reached by taking the first step (i said that) lol
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now with the Melbourne Weather a significant factor, here i the best wet trackers from my rated horses of 50/1 and less, to add for wiw
Melbourne Cup 2025: Best Suited Runners for a Heavy Track from runners rated 50/1 and under Analysis of Leading Chances for Soft/Heavy Ground Performance IntroductionThe 2025 Melbourne Cup has attracted a quality field, with punters and racing fans keenly assessing which runners are best equipped to handle a heavy track. With the unpredictable Melbourne weather often affecting Flemington’s turf, understanding each horse’s suitability for rain-affected ground is crucial for making informed betting decisions and predicting race outcomes. Below is an analysis of the leading chances in this year’s Cup, focusing on their proven ability and likely performance on a heavy track. Key Criteria for Heavy Track Suitability· Proven form on rain-affected ground (soft/heavy ratings) · Stamina and ability to stay 3200m · Late finishing burst and ability to handle tough conditions · Sectional times in previous wet races Runner-by-Runner Assessment14. Half YoursHard fit and in career-best form, Half Yours arrives as the Caulfield Cup winner with superb closing sectionals. While the comments do not explicitly mention wet track prowess, his strong late finishes and tough staying profile suggest he could handle a heavy surface. Known for peaking over 3200m, he rates as a genuine top chance regardless of conditions. However, a proven wet track record would further boost his credentials. 2. BuckarooBuckaroo is honest and versatile, with form around high-class races including the Cox Plate. There is some uncertainty at the Cup distance and no clear indication of wet track preference, but his reliable nature and top stable are positives. Craig Williams’ riding style may suit a heavy track if Buckaroo can stay the trip. 6. Presage NocturneThis consistent French stayer is one of the most appealing options for a heavy track. He has shown solid form in the Caulfield Cup and is specifically noted for handling rain and producing strong late finishes. French imports often thrive in tough conditions and Presage Nocturne’s high place percentage suggests he can be relied upon to stay on gamely even if the going turns heavy. He is arguably the best suited to a wet surface among the leading chances. 16. OnesmoothoperatorImpressive Geelong Cup winner who loves a fast tempo and is best on dry ground. While consistent, his preference for firmer footing makes him less ideal for a heavy track, and he may struggle if conditions deteriorate. 21. River of StarsStrong Caulfield Cup second and proven stayer with a high place percentage. The comments do not specify wet track form, but her ability to stay on gamely is a positive. She offers value as an each way chance, though unknowns remain about her heavy track credentials. 23. TorranzinoAnother Geelong Cup winner who stays all day and is honest. No explicit mention of wet track ability, but staying prowess is a plus if the race becomes a slog. Needs to step up in class. 24. Valiant KingLightly raced with upside and peaking at the right time, Valiant King’s sharp final 200m in the Caulfield Cup is encouraging. Blinkers have improved his form, but suitability for heavy ground is unproven. 1. Al RiffaClass Irish stayer, strong in the Irish St Leger and proven over distance. Irish horses often handle soft ground well, and Al Riffa’s profile suggests he could manage a heavy track, though direct evidence is limited. 20. Goodie Two ShoesProgressive mare who has won three straight, but may find a few too strong. No information on wet track ability, so she remains a speculative place hope in the conditions. 22. Royal SupremacyMetropolitan winner with good sectionals in the Caulfield Cup and proven winning form. Handles conditions, which may indicate some adaptability to softer going, but further evidence would be needed. 9. AbsurdeSolid international form and a good Caulfield Cup run. Stays well and is competitive at this level, but no specific mention of wet track ability. Definite place hope if he copes with the ground. 19. AthabascanImproved last start but has struggled earlier this prep. Not quite up to this class and only a rough place chance, especially if the surface is testing. 5. Chevalier RoseJapanese stayer with past wins over staying trips, but form has tapered. Needs to recapture best and may struggle, particularly if faced with a heavy track. 13. ChangingoftheguardPromising UK import with mixed Australian form. Blinkers may help, but heavy track suitability is unknown and improvement is needed. 18. The Bolter / Parchment PartyAll wins on dirt, unplaced on turf, and needs to prove at this level and surface. Heavy ground would likely be a significant disadvantage. Summary Table: Heavy Track Suitability
Conclusion: Best Suited for Heavy TrackAmong this year’s leading Melbourne Cup chances, Presage Nocturne stands out as the runner best suited for a heavy track, given his proven ability to handle rain and produce strong finishes under tough conditions. Al Riffa and Half Yours also rate well, with staying power and international profiles suggesting adaptability to softer going. Punters should give preference to these runners if the track is rain-affected, while those with a clear preference for dry ground (such as Onesmoothoperator) are best avoided on a wet surface. As always, keep an eye on track updates and late betting moves, as conditions at Flemington can change rapidly and impact the race outcome |
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change is simply a destination on a journey reached by taking the first step (i said that) lol
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