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    Posted: 03 Nov 2025 at 9:37am

My Rated Horses to 50/1, which include variables such as my Vuillier interpretations and pedigree profiles, which I am still working out Weight implications of, probably still missed the winner, and NO I would  not lay parchment Party. Most of all good luck with your fancies and enjoy the day  

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MY Odds

Sportsbet Odds

14

Half Yours

 

Hard fit, flying this prep, Caulfield Cup winner, superb closing sectionals, looks to peak at 3200m. Genuine top chance.

$6.50

$7

2

Buckaroo

Honest, always thereabouts, Cox Plate placing, query at 3200m but top stable, Craig Williams suits, each way chance.

$8

$9

6

Presage Nocturne

Consistent French stayer, solid Caulfield Cup run, 3200m ideal, handles rain, high place percentage, strong late finishes.

$10

$8.50

16

Onesmoothoperator

Impressive Geelong Cup winner, loves fast tempo, dry ground suits, consistent,

$11

$31

21

River of Stars

Strong Caulfield Cup second, proven stayer, high place percentage, stays on gamely, value each way chance.

$11

$18

23

Torranzino

Geelong Cup winner, stays all day, handy in Bart Cummings, honest, needs to step up but has upside.

$11

$31

24

Valiant King

Peaking at right time, excellent final 200m in Caulfield Cup, blinkers on have sharpened, lightly raced with upside.

$14

$8.50

1

Al Riffa

Class Irish stayer, won last two, strong in Irish St Leger, proven against quality, handles distance, right profile for this race.

$16

$9

20

Goodie Two Shoes

Progressive mare, won three straight mid-year, honest, may find a few too strong but could surprise for multiples.

$33

$27

22

Royal Supremacy

Metropolitan winner, good sectionals in Caulfield Cup, proven winner, handles conditions, on the up.

$33

$27

9

Absurde

Solid international form, good run in Caulfield Cup, stays well, competitive at this level, definite place hope.

$40

$19

19

Athabascan

Improved last start, struggled early this prep, not quite up to this class, rough place chance at best.

$40

$81

5

Chevalier rose

Japanese stayer, past wins over staying trips, form has tapered, needs to recapture best, may struggle.

$50

$31

13

Changingoftheguard

Promising UK import, mixed Australian form, forgive last start, needs to improve, blinkers on help.

$50

$61

18

The Bolter ??? Parchment Party

All wins on dirt, unplaced turf runs, needs to prove at this level and surface, big ask.

$1000

$51

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now with the Melbourne Weather a significant factor, here i the best wet trackers from my rated horses of 50/1 and less, to add for wiw

Melbourne Cup 2025: Best Suited Runners for a Heavy Track from runners rated 50/1 and under

Analysis of Leading Chances for Soft/Heavy Ground Performance

Introduction

The 2025 Melbourne Cup has attracted a quality field, with punters and racing fans keenly assessing which runners are best equipped to handle a heavy track. With the unpredictable Melbourne weather often affecting Flemington’s turf, understanding each horse’s suitability for rain-affected ground is crucial for making informed betting decisions and predicting race outcomes. Below is an analysis of the leading chances in this year’s Cup, focusing on their proven ability and likely performance on a heavy track.

Key Criteria for Heavy Track Suitability

·         Proven form on rain-affected ground (soft/heavy ratings)

·         Stamina and ability to stay 3200m

·         Late finishing burst and ability to handle tough conditions

·         Sectional times in previous wet races

Runner-by-Runner Assessment

14. Half Yours

Hard fit and in career-best form, Half Yours arrives as the Caulfield Cup winner with superb closing sectionals. While the comments do not explicitly mention wet track prowess, his strong late finishes and tough staying profile suggest he could handle a heavy surface. Known for peaking over 3200m, he rates as a genuine top chance regardless of conditions. However, a proven wet track record would further boost his credentials.

2. Buckaroo

Buckaroo is honest and versatile, with form around high-class races including the Cox Plate. There is some uncertainty at the Cup distance and no clear indication of wet track preference, but his reliable nature and top stable are positives. Craig Williams’ riding style may suit a heavy track if Buckaroo can stay the trip.

6. Presage Nocturne

This consistent French stayer is one of the most appealing options for a heavy track. He has shown solid form in the Caulfield Cup and is specifically noted for handling rain and producing strong late finishes. French imports often thrive in tough conditions and Presage Nocturne’s high place percentage suggests he can be relied upon to stay on gamely even if the going turns heavy. He is arguably the best suited to a wet surface among the leading chances.

16. Onesmoothoperator

Impressive Geelong Cup winner who loves a fast tempo and is best on dry ground. While consistent, his preference for firmer footing makes him less ideal for a heavy track, and he may struggle if conditions deteriorate.

21. River of Stars

Strong Caulfield Cup second and proven stayer with a high place percentage. The comments do not specify wet track form, but her ability to stay on gamely is a positive. She offers value as an each way chance, though unknowns remain about her heavy track credentials.

23. Torranzino

Another Geelong Cup winner who stays all day and is honest. No explicit mention of wet track ability, but staying prowess is a plus if the race becomes a slog. Needs to step up in class.

24. Valiant King

Lightly raced with upside and peaking at the right time, Valiant King’s sharp final 200m in the Caulfield Cup is encouraging. Blinkers have improved his form, but suitability for heavy ground is unproven.

1. Al Riffa

Class Irish stayer, strong in the Irish St Leger and proven over distance. Irish horses often handle soft ground well, and Al Riffa’s profile suggests he could manage a heavy track, though direct evidence is limited.

20. Goodie Two Shoes

Progressive mare who has won three straight, but may find a few too strong. No information on wet track ability, so she remains a speculative place hope in the conditions.

22. Royal Supremacy

Metropolitan winner with good sectionals in the Caulfield Cup and proven winning form. Handles conditions, which may indicate some adaptability to softer going, but further evidence would be needed.

9. Absurde

Solid international form and a good Caulfield Cup run. Stays well and is competitive at this level, but no specific mention of wet track ability. Definite place hope if he copes with the ground.

19. Athabascan

Improved last start but has struggled earlier this prep. Not quite up to this class and only a rough place chance, especially if the surface is testing.

5. Chevalier Rose

Japanese stayer with past wins over staying trips, but form has tapered. Needs to recapture best and may struggle, particularly if faced with a heavy track.

13. Changingoftheguard

Promising UK import with mixed Australian form. Blinkers may help, but heavy track suitability is unknown and improvement is needed.

18. The Bolter / Parchment Party

All wins on dirt, unplaced on turf, and needs to prove at this level and surface. Heavy ground would likely be a significant disadvantage.

Summary Table: Heavy Track Suitability

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Name

Heavy Track Suitability

Notes

6

Presage Nocturne

<b>Excellent</b>

Handles rain, strong late finishes, French stayer

1

Al Riffa

<b>Good</b>

Irish stayer, likely to handle soft ground

14

Half Yours

<b>Solid</b>

Tough stayer, strong sectionals, unproven on heavy

22

Royal Supremacy

<b>Possible</b>

Handles conditions, improving

16

Onesmoothoperator

<b>Poor</b>

Prefers dry ground

18

The Bolter / Parchment Party

<b>Very Poor</b>

All wins on dirt, unplaced turf runs

Conclusion: Best Suited for Heavy Track

Among this year’s leading Melbourne Cup chances, Presage Nocturne stands out as the runner best suited for a heavy track, given his proven ability to handle rain and produce strong finishes under tough conditions. Al Riffa and Half Yours also rate well, with staying power and international profiles suggesting adaptability to softer going. Punters should give preference to these runners if the track is rain-affected, while those with a clear preference for dry ground (such as Onesmoothoperator) are best avoided on a wet surface.

As always, keep an eye on track updates and late betting moves, as conditions at Flemington can change rapidly and impact the race outcome
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