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    Posted: 22 Jan 2026 at 10:22am
looking at sending a mare SOPHONY to Kings Gambit 
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The mare was dropped from official records in 2025.  You'll have to get her registered again.  

Could be an issue as she was unraced and her three foals to date also are unraced.  

Her grandam did a tad better with three winners from seven raced.  The best was a daughter of Helmet.  She has had one winner from one to race!

Just saying be careful with this girl.
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thanks so much for that infomation
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Your mare's sire So You Think nicks best, apart from Zabeel, with Danehill blood, eg Fastnet Rock, Flying Spur, Casino Prince, Exceed and Excel and particularly Redoute's Choice.  So I'd be looking for a multiplicity of that lot.

One sire that stands out is Lofty Strike, which gives you a Danehillsire line of Snitzel/Redoute's Choice/Danehill and a distaff sire line of Exceed and Excel/Danehill.  Don't worry about the dupes of Danehill as he'll only appear in the fourth remove.

It'll be his 3rd season in 2026 so am quite sure he could be secured for $16,500 absolute tops and most probably rather less.

However the stark reality is that any match will only produce a "breed to race" foal, which can prove to be be a very expensive exercise, more so if you don't yourself have a property to accommodate the mare and subsequent foal.  So would recommend you seriously consider the financial realities of breeding with your mare, even presuming she'll be admitted to the Stud Book. 
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And with due respect can't see what King's Gambit in particular has to offer from a pedigree match perspective.
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Sophony was bred in the SE of SA.
I knew the breeder extremely well, a successful long-time successful breeder who new his stuff. Sophony was a breeding disaster. Could not get in any sale depite pedigree page. Hence sold privately for peanuts.

The granddam Regencia was a quality mare as was Symphony Miss ( both owned by the breeder of Sophony)
Les gave symphony Miss every opportunity but even then she never produced good types
I know I saw every one of them & I have a good eye.

Therefore it is only a pedigree to play with, in the hope of getting a good one, but don't spend too much money
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Now there's nothing like a challenge in this industry.
So if you have your own property & handling expertise there is a stallion in the Western Districts who might just be able to correct the ship. Royal Symphony @ Claremont Stud  Gatum
(He throws very good types that promise to be 4yo, 2000mt horses . Paul Preusker & symon wilde both have a handful each. They are both patient & like what they have got)

I'd be tempted to have a crack at it but even with doing every thing myself it would take $ 20K per foal, over 4 years, to find out
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that is a minimum $20 k to have just 1 horse ready to run at 4
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