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Pardon_My_Dust 
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If VE is parked outside him most defeinitely. But I'm not sure he's going as well as last year.
@Jamal the only good thing about TIO winning is Boss choosing the wrong horse.
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Jamal
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 2:53pm |
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I assume Bossy thinks Sir Dragonet is a better chance then Think It Over
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deejays destiny
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 3:28pm |
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I will eat my hat if Verry Ellegant doesn't win.
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Pardon_My_Dust
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 5:55pm |
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Jeez J Mac wont want to see that again.
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Jamal
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 5:57pm |
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Better start eating. Add some salt and pepper on it too. Enjoy.
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Second Chance
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 5:58pm |
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So it was his fault VE over-raced for 1000m?
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Jamal
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 5:59pm |
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Verry Elleegant was brave. Tried her heart out. Addeybb was too good.
Addeybb vs Verry Elleegant:: the score is 3 - 1 in Addeybb' favour.
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deejays destiny
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 5:59pm |
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VE pulled her head off, ticket was in the bin after 200m
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It's all too hard for you isn't? He let her run out of the gate to take up a forward spot. Should've slowly worked his way forward allowed her to relax. Just gently slide across the main thing being to make sure she's settled. And after all that he was second last at the 600m. As a professional jockey in a big race riding a mare that's known to overrace yes it's his job to make sure she settled. Not sure why that's so hard for you to understand? Great jockey but botched this one a treat.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:04pm |
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VE cost herself the race. She raced horribly with the head up for half the race. We thought she got over those antics with maturity but obviously not.
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Second Chance
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:08pm |
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This from Shawy elsewhere: wasted too much energy pulling herself into the ground for the first 800m.
Apparently he, me, D's D, RR and everyone else bar P_M_D have got it all wrong.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:09pm |
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You always call for backup when you're desperate.
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TJMitchell
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:13pm |
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Time is a flat circle
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:16pm |
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She seemed a bit fresh after 3 weeks break and McDonald didn’t make great decisions out of the gates. But the winner was too good.
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Tlazolteotl
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:27pm |
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As a seasoned grandstand jockey it looked a spectacularly bad ride to me, for the reason you describe.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:34pm |
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Did people particularly notice how wide Verry Elleegant's mouth was when over-racing, which has a huge negative effect on effective breathing/air intake?
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honi soit qui mal y pense
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 7:38pm |
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Waller can take the blame. The jockey probably should have let her go but was probably befuddled by Addeybb missing the start and taking his time to take a position.
Verry Elleegant can win an Arc but not with Waller in charge.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Jamal
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 7:48pm |
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Always an excuse for the horses you back that don't win isnt there. Score line...let me remind you 3 - 1 in Adeyybb's favour. The real question you should be asking is why YOU didn't rate Adeyybb high enough. Once again you continue to underrate the quality of racing in Europe at 1600m+ How on earth can you blame the trainer? Pretty poor form from you and you should know better mate.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 7:49pm |
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What's Waller got to do with JMac having no initiative?
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Second Chance
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He should have done this. He should have done that. He should have been able to get her to settle. Grandstand pundits like you display bugger all appreciation or understanding and clearly shows. ps how about McEvoy's ride in the Oaks? Not at all bad for a jock you reckon can't ride.
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Jamal
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 7:51pm |
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Tlazolteotl - exactly. Absolutely spot on. Djebel blaming the trainer....seriously the mind boggles.....
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Tlazolteotl
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 7:54pm |
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ps how about McEvoy's ride in the Oaks? Not at all bad for a jock you reckon can't ride. Who says McEvoy can't ride? If he was riding VE it would have led and it wouldn't have been pulling.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 7:57pm |
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Addeybb was too good for her today, but she was in trouble racing ungenerously & getting shuffled back.
2000m is short of her ideal trip. I’m with djebel, if she acclimatised ok, she’d acquit herself well in an Arc De Triomphe over her pet trip of 2400m
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 8:13pm |
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I noticed her pulling hard, pretty revved up really, in the pre race warmup but have no idea if this is normal for her. Can anyone confirm or otherwise?
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Second Chance
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 8:53pm |
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Didn't see the prelims Gay but the attitude you describe could clearly have been a significant factor in her attitude over the first 1000m.
Other than that all I know is that PMD maintains the jockey stuffed up big time whilst djebel claimed her loss was down to the trainer's incompetence. Though anyone with more than half an appreciation....
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 9:01pm |
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From memory she has been a handful in the yard previously, hadn't been as much of an issue of late (until today)
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 9:07pm |
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Don't forget Jamal wetting his pants with excitement that she got beat, so that he can fart on about Antipodean horses lacking ability beyond a mile, for about the 5 millionth time.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 9:13pm |
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I love Saturdays
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Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 10:01pm |
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Congratulations to Addeybb, a wonderful 2000 metre horse deserving of champion status Of the 4 fancied runners I thought he would be most disadvantaged by racing on a Good 4, I was wrong.
On the track itself, times throughout the day weren't particularly fast given the quality of horse on offer, horses could obviously still get their toe in so it seemed a fair surface for all. Maybe a 4 bordering on a 5? The race itself was interesting/perplexing to watch, didn't have a bet in the race but was hoping the Mare would win. To not break 2.05 for 2000 metres and have 2 and a half lengths covering the entire field suggests it was more tactical than a true test. Im not sure how thats Wallers fault. Interestingly, Addeybb is likely the best performed 10 furlong horse in the world, yet has never run faster than 2:04.9 in winning. Just goes to show, times aren't everything. |
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