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Interesting that the 2YO was entered as a maiden against 3YOs. Of course the weight differential and apprentice claim helped but there is no doubt this filly will be worth following.
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She was actually very very very poorly weighted. I assume you are American, or at least follow American racing very closely. Do they ever have 2yos running in open class maidens over there ? I'll bet when they do there is a greater weight gap between the ages. |
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I'm not aware of any open maiden races in the US/Canada where 2YOs can run. Even open races restrict the entering of 2YOs now even I think this was more common in the earlier 20th century. However, US trainer Wesley Ward has taken US 2YOs to England and has run them in open Graded stakes. Lady Aurelia comes to mind running 2nd in the G1 Nunthorpe Stakes as a 2YO. However, in OZ as the racing season gets closer to the end I see many maiden races which are 2YO/3YO or even open. First three races at Gawler, all maidens allowed 2YOs to be entered. |
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They allow, and for some reason trainers run them, But they are very poorly weighted if you believe in the WFA scale.
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In these maiden races the 2YOs seem to be in a disadvantage but I think there are more of these races now since they number of 2YO only races has diminished somewhat and the racing clubs have opened up these weak maiden races up for them. On the other hand just recently Dubious ran fifth with 48.5kg in the WFA Kingsford-Smith which was fine effort from the 2YO only beaten 1 1/2 lengths. Since we are on the Stradbroke Handicap meeting, Wiggle as a 2YO filly carried 7 st. 5 lb (46.7 kg) to victory in the 1958 rendition. |
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From June though July we see any number of 2yo's in open age maidens, and why not given their opposition is frequently well below par.
And this one certainly wasn't poorly weighted after the claim.
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I know sires are all the rage, but I am interested in trainers who train mares, who become good producers.
That Rostova family is very potent at getting winners and stakes performers and she was trained by Steve Richards. We had Miss Rock being sold for 2.3 million, so it seems breeders do not care as much where broodmares are trained as much as sires. |
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The Rostova (1981) in Funstar's breeding was from GB The Rostova (2006) was the one trained by Steve Richards (AUS) 1st:
2010 Robert Sangster Classic (AUS-G1,F&M,1200m,Morphettville) 2009 VRC Sires Produce Stakes (AUS-G2,2yo,1400m,Flemington) 2009 Blue Diamond Prelude Stakes (AUS-G3,2yoF,1100m,Caulfield) 2008 VRC Schiavello Stakes (AUS-L,2yoF,1000m,Flemington) 2009 Blue Diamond Preview Stakes (AUS-L,2yoF,1000m,Caulfield) |
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Stood up and took notice of this filly yesterday. Loved the way she let down and attacked the line. So much willingness for a baby on debut.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Another nice win.
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Best On Breeding Mark Smith - Thursday March 12 At her career debut in a 10-furling maiden at Sandown back on April 24 1992, the 25/1 outsider User Friendly, thrashed the favoured pair of Juddmonte Farm’s royally-bred Shirly Valentine and Godolphin’s sensationally-related Nijinsky filly Jood but few would have foreseen the impact those three would have on the breed. A daughter of Danehill out of one of the great racemares of modern times, Starspangled proved to be a sales ring bargain A half-sister to Warning, Commander In Chief, Yashmak, Dushyantor and Jibe out of that champion broodmare Slightly Dangerous, Shirly Valentine went on to a successful broodmare career as the dam of six stakes horses including the Group winners Memorise and Multiplex. Jood could also boast some notable relations being a half-sister to Grade 1 winners Gorgeous, Seaside Attraction and Key To The Moon out of the Champion 3yr old filly in Canada in 1979, Kamar. Like Shirly Valentine, Jood distinguished herself at stud leaving two stakes-winner including the champion Fantastic Light. Closer to home, Jood is the granddam of Group II Todman Stakes winner Tarquin and great granddam of Widden Stud’s Group 1 BTC Cup winner Your Song. Neither Shirley Valentine nor Jibe went on to distinguish themselves on the racetrack, but User Friendly went from strength to strength, reeling off wins in the Listed Oaks Trial at Lingfield, Group 1 Epsom Oaks, Group 1 Irish Oaks, Group 1 Yorkshire Oaks and the Group 1 St Leger. The daughter of Slip Anchor met defeat for the first time in Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe where she finished second to Subotica but her three-year-old season was not yet over. She was sent to Tokyo for the Japan Cup, finishing sixth to Tokai Teio. Funstar - image Steve hart At four, User-Friendly added the Group 1 Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud at Saint-Cloud. Although she was competitive at the top level, she was nowhere near as dominant as she was at three. At stud, User Friendly could not match the deeds of Shirley Valentine or Jood. Ten of her eleven foals reached the track with eight winners headed by the Group III winner Downtown (Danehill) and the Group III Queen’s Vase runner-up Two Miles West. It’s Downtown’s sister Starspangled (IRE) who has elevated the family to another level in recent years. The winner of a mile and a half maiden ay Cork from six starts, Starspangled (IRE) was put in foal to Galileo to southern hemisphere time and was shipped off by Coolmore to Australia. She subsequently foaled a Galileo filly that was consigned to the 2010 Inglis Australian Easter Yearling Sale where she was knocked down to Dermot Farrington Bloodstock for $110,000. Tofane - image Grant Courtney Named Baggy Green, she was sent to Guy Walter for whom she won a 1600 maiden a Goulburn. Baggy Green was back in the ring at the 2013 Inglis Australian Bloodstock Sale where she was purchased by Gordon Cunningham for just $23,000. It proved money well spent as Baggy Green is the dam of the top-class Ocean Park mare Tofane who has a pair of Group III wins to her credit and most recently was an honourable seventh in the Group 1 Newmarket Handicap at Flemington. A year after Baggy Green went through the ring, her dam Starspangled (IRE) was sold at the same sale where she was purchased for $30,000 by John North’s Bowness Stud on behalf of Young residents Jack and Karen Sheather. At the time of the sale Starspangled (IRE) had two runners with Baggy Green being her only winner. But it still looked good buying considering she carried a positive test to High Chaparral (IRE) who stood at a fee of $77,000 when he covered Starspangled (IRE). It looked even better when the High Chaparral (IRE) filly she was carrying sold to Anton Koolman Bloodstock for $200,000 at the 2016 Inglis Premier Yearling Sale. Arthur and Charlotte Inglis and Charlotte sister, Jan, took a major stake in the filly and the Sheather’s retained an interest. Adelaide - image Mark Smith Named Youngstar and sent to Chris Waller, the daughter of High Chaparral (IRE) has banked over a $1 million in a career that has seen her win the Group 1 BRC Queensland Oaks and Group II Doomben Roses and she ran her world-famous stablemate Winx to a length in the Group 1 Turnbull Stakes at Flemington. Two year’s after the sale of Youngstar, Bowness Stud consigned Starspangled’s filly from the first crop of Galileo’s WS Cox Plate hero Adelaide (IRE) to the 2018 Inglis Australian Easter Yearling Sale. No surprise that she was snapped up by Anton Koolman Bloodstock for $80,000 and races in similar interests to Youngstar. Named Funstar, the daughter of Adelaide has been a star from day one. She has four wins and two seconds from her six starts to date highlighted by wins in the Group 1 ATC Flight Stakes and Group II ATC Tea Rose Stakes. In both those wins she defeated the star kiwi filly Probabeel who gained her revenge in the Group 1 ATC Surround Stakes at Randwick at their most recent start. Round four of the rivalry takes place on Saturday in the Group II Phar Lap Stakes at Rosehill where they will take on the colts and geldings over 1500 metres. There is still plenty to look forward to from Starspangled (IRE). She has a 2yo colt by Dissident who failed to make his $100,000 reserve at the 2019 Inglis Classic Yearling Sale, and a colt foal by Pierro. She was covered by Adelaide (IRE) again last spring. |
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Great article
The High Chaparral filly Youngstar carries the two crosses of Mill Reef in her pedigree as does Funstar and Pride Of Adelaide. |
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It's just unf**kingbelievable Waller could not get this filly to run 2000m, Unf**kingbelievable.
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So it's Waller's fault Funstar didn't run out 2000m as strong as some others today?
Gee, he may have to give the game away, obviously has no idea what it takes to get a filly/mare to run 10 furlongs. |
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If it is not Waller who is it to blame ?
He has said it himself, he trains them to sprint and than lets their genes take over. |
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The horse overrated severely in the same way Verry elegant did last year. JMAC should have probably let her run but if he did and she got beat people would have had the knives out. The perception would have been worse then the reality.
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Over raced not overrated.
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" In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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She was insanely short yesterday. $1.50!
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Read today that Waller will 'probably' press onto the Oaks with her, on the proviso she be ridden far more conservatively.
Be interesting to see which way they go with the Queen of the Turf on the same day. Likewise with Probabeel. |
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Apparently she is "not ready for a 2400m style race"
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Oh, And she has too much speed......
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Any love for Funstar today in the Dane Ripper Stks?
A lot of her opposition have only been racing in restricted F&M grade, whilst Funstar has generally taken on all comers in proper black type races during her career. Surely she’d be a big chance dropping back in grade today. I’ll have a little each way.
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Assume she is up there for the mares race in a fortnight.
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The Listed F&M race over 2100m perhaps? A terrible tip by me today & a terrible run by Funstar
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Apparently up for sale & will be listed in an upcoming Inglis Digital sale.
Given she’s only a rising 5yo & lightly raced, hopefully she’s given the opportunity to continue her racetrack career with new connections & a change in scenery. It’s always seemed odd to me that she’s never been given her chance to race over 2000m+. She’s by Adelaide with multiple English Derby winners close in the damside - Slip Anchor & Blakeney.
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"Funstar is from one of Australia’s best young families and will be offered as a racing and breeding prospect on the eve of the Southern Hemisphere breeding season."
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A cool $2.7m paid by Katsumi Yoshida in Japan.
Assume this means she’ll be leaving our shores to be mated with one of Shadai’s stallions.
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