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Baghdad Bob
Champion Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Online Points: 13595 |
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If prior to being put to the vote, Thorpe is shown an example of those who might make up the members of the Voice, you can have 50/1 from me of the Yes vote getting up.
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Passing Through
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Do you know how it is going to work Bob? I have no clue, but there will not be politicians on a board or council and there will be no third chamber of parliament from what I gather.
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rusty nails
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Nothing but a grand idea atm.
Albo deliberately not being specific, in an attempt to beat the divide and conquer tactics that beat the Republic referendum years ago. They still need to fill in a lot of blanks before they go to a referendum. |
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Baghdad Bob
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Never have I, but surely we must know in advance who will form the board or council, yet I doubt we will as they will be selected AFTER the vote of approval. Just imagine someone like Thorpe got on that board.
That is why I presume the NO vote will walk in.
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Passing Through
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Yes Bobby, it was made clear on the weekend there will be a year or more of consultation, maybe a Republic type process to work out the details.
Whatever it is it has to be better than the way Indigenous issues have been dealt with in the past with billions of dollars thrown at them with no plan or corrupt dodgy ATSIC type boards that chewed up billions for no gain for Indigenous people.
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Baghdad Bob
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Other than PT's fence sitting, it appears there is little support, even from lefties, for a YES vote for The Indigenous Voice in Parliament on TBV.
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rusty nails
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Most people wait till an idea has been fleshed out, before they decide whether they will support it.
The raging racists have of course,already made their minds up, despite there being zero details atm.
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Baguette
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There’s only one detail that decided me Rusty . Where going to be asked to change the constitution to include Race and I’m going to vote No. End of story.
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Hello Sunshine
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You saying Jacinta Price is a racist?
That doesnt make sense rusty.
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rusty nails
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Yeah, my bad.
Should have said all racists, and the brain dead self promoters…..
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Hello Sunshine
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Whilst you are around rusty there will always be great divide.
No chance for a yes vote with that attitude.. Self promoters, Jacinta Price has more common sense in her little finger than you show all over. It will be a woman like her that the indigenous will listen to. What has Linda Birney achieved? Apart from getting into parliament? Would she be on a level that willl resonate with indigenous? I think not.
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Hello Sunshine
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The indigenous have to work out who they would want to represent them.
Someone living in Canberra is a long way from the "sticks" With 11% representation in parliament out of a 3% representation in the population there is ample "voice" without a referendum. Or are they all duds?
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rusty nails
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Haha,
What a surprise that you’d be a fan……. |
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Hello Sunshine
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Ahh
And of course only from that left whinger tome CRIKEY. Cant be original rusty?
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Tlazolteotl
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I don't think I'm in the alt-right but I haven't heard anything from Price that is false. What has she got wrong? The criticisms of her I see from the usual suspects in the Aboriginal industry are usually if not always slurs without substance.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Passing Through
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Do you approve of her making a mockery of the swearing in to the office she ran to win?
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Tlazolteotl
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Specifics?
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Passing Through
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See above, the thing this discussion on her is about.
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Passing Through
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Apologies you are talking about Ms Price.
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Tlazolteotl
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Do you mean the ridiculous posturing of Senator Lidia Thorpe? “There is definitely a level of immaturity about that kind of behaviour. If you want to be a -protester, then this isn’t the place for it. Go ahead and join the resistance, but we are there to be legislators for the benefit of our nation. “I think it is just disruptive behaviour. “The majority of us in the Senate today … just saw it as contemptuous behaviour.” Jacinta Price |
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Hello Sunshine
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Ms Price all the way.
I can see the steam coming out of your ears pt. You need the byron bay zen......
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Hello Sunshine
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Passing Through
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Keep up please.
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Hello Sunshine
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I dont do retrospective.
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Passing Through
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I am glad Albo has rethought his position of sorting the details of how the voice will work after the referendum. That was a stupid idea and would have ensured failure.
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Baghdad Bob
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In view of the death of Judith Durham I thought the words of The Seekers song "We Are Australian' are more appropriate in 2022 when they first recorded in 1987.
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Hello Sunshine
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I know some on here will not want this "shared".......
but we are all equal, arnt we? The silence from some invested parties is deafening.... And when did american politics become more important? The full, explosive texts between Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price and columnist Peter FitzSimons have been revealed after the pair became engaged in a nasty feud following a recent phone interview. Senator Price, who is an Indigenous woman, claimed she felt “bullied” by FitzSimons during the interview and alleged he accused her of “giving racists a voice”. In a now-deleted post, the Country Liberal Party Senator took to Facebook on Sunday evening after interview on Thursday was published, claiming FitzSimons was “very bloody aggressive”. FitzSimons, a Sydney Morning Herald columnist and husband to Lisa Wilkinson, denied her claims, which he described “complete and utter … nonsense”. The full, explosive texts between Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price and columnist Peter FitzSimons have been revealed after the pair became engaged in a nasty feud following a recent phone interview. Senator Price, who is an Indigenous woman, claimed she felt “bullied” by FitzSimons during the interview and alleged he accused her of “giving racists a voice”. In a now-deleted post, the Country Liberal Party Senator took to Facebook on Sunday evening after interview on Thursday was published, claiming FitzSimons was “very bloody aggressive”. |
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Hello Sunshine
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What a bully is Fitzsimons .
the very image of an entitled white male. And he supports the Voice? In his image only.
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Passing Through
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Ms Price doesn't support it, she has said she will probably vote NO and she supports Pauline Hanson's views.
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Tlazolteotl
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Senator Price, love your work, on what I've seen so far, but real interviews are not like Sky soft-soap love-ins, where they only invite you if they know you aren't going to say anything they disagree with.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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