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Shammy Davis 
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 Topic: 2022 Kentucky DerbyPosted: 15 May 2022 at 1:34am |
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Can't remember when outrider's and pony escorts to the gate weren't on the track. It is because of the way our horses are kept up and trained. Our system is too limited in track and group training time. 22 hours a day in a stall is not optimal. Agree that the RS visuals were unpleasant. Very rare to see on race day. Old traditions die hard here. It would be interesting to see what RS is like after a Group 1 mile and sixteenth. That is out of the question now. No doubt RS won't be as cantankerous at the Belmont finish. He is a MR PROSPECTOR line colt on both sides and if history is an example his legs will be falling off at the wire after a mile and a half.
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acacia alba
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Posted: 14 May 2022 at 7:49pm |
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Probably right Shammy. For those of us who understand racing. But the K D is viewed world wide by people who dont understand things, and even from my point of view, it looked bad, so imagine what the anti racers are saying. I have seen a lot of horses stopped by the the outriders, as you call them, but never anything as bad as that. The way he slashed across his face with the reins and punched him. I get it he wanted the horse to stop biting and behave but if he had let him go he prolly wouldnt have been fighting so hard. I never get why every horse has to have a lead pony anyway. Cant they trot to the barriers themselves ?
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Shammy Davis
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Posted: 14 May 2022 at 5:27pm |
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RICH STRIKE'S trainer defended the outrider's actions. I tend to agree having exercised a few head strong young colts as a young man. RS appeared to continue to race after crossing the finish. Straight or split snaffle bits don't offer a great deal of control for a jockey and outriders are good to have nearby. Have been bitten a few times myself. Not pleasant.
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acacia alba
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Posted: 14 May 2022 at 4:20pm |
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Its such a shame the scenes of the outrider/lead pony man punching the horse in the face has gone world wide and given the anti racing mob fuel for their fire. Why on earth he just didnt let the horse go under its own steam, instead of insisting on hanging onto its bit, and then smacking a hitting it when it tried biting the pony is beyond me. Bad look and even worse horsemanship.
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Shammy Davis
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Posted: 14 May 2022 at 3:34am |
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RICH STRIKE skipping Preakness. Next stop is the Belmont.
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Shammy Davis
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Posted: 11 May 2022 at 12:23pm |
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Passing Through
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Posted: 09 May 2022 at 1:54pm |
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Overhead view.
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Grey Affair
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Posted: 09 May 2022 at 4:42am |
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Rich Strike's damline details:- |
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 7:56pm |
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Not many lines of Chestnut but Noholme was a pretty good chestnut back in the day. And he's there twice as well.
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Second Chance
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 7:53pm |
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Beat me to it Furious.
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 7:47pm |
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Also three lines of Gold Digger (dam of Mr Prospector and Search for Gold)
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 5:53pm |
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Close breeding in Rich Strike's pedigree. 3x2 cross of Smart Strike
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 3:48pm |
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A play on the 2020 election.
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acacia alba
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 3:45pm |
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Oh.
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 1:43pm |
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I think it was satire AA
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acacia alba
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 1:42pm |
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I just came back here to say the same thing, TJ. Just watch the overhead vision . OMG. What a ride. What a run.  Where was the cheating there ? Epicenter got run down fair and square.
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 1:38pm |
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Go out of your way to watch the overhead. What a ride
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Time is a flat circle
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acacia alba
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 1:31pm |
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Now how did the horse cheat ? He came from virtually last, and they all had their chance. Sour grapes.
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 1:29pm |
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What a ride and what a run. Great back story too. Bought in a claimer for $30 thousand. Jockey I bet none of us have ever heard of. Heard them say they lost 23 horses and all their gear and trophies in a barn fire. Tragic. Still cant get over the run and see him after ? Spent most of the time on the way back trying to bite the lead pony. Dunno why they didnt just let him go back on his own. He obviously wanted to celebrate in his own way. I bet there was more than 156 thousand there !!! See that crowd !!!!  Imagine being in it. Or getting away after . No one can drive to the track. Only the Govenor etc. You have to park miles away and bus or walk in. What a great story .
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 1:05pm |
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famous guy there bet the house on Epicenter to win and is claiming Rich Strike cheated and race was “rigged.” Says Mike Pence or SCOTUS can intervene and overturn result if they have “courage to be real Americans.”
Comment I saw on WaPo.
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 11:39am |
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Gee, Shammy was stiff but I love to see an outsider win, especially when they make the field at the last minute! What a ride too
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 11:32am |
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 11:12am |
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Shammy Davis
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Posted: 08 May 2022 at 2:38am |
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I am boxing Epicenter, Zandon, and Messier and a single to win playing Epicenter.
Track will be firm. No rain today. Little chilly.
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reductio ad absurdum
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acacia alba
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Posted: 05 May 2022 at 1:49pm |
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The Los Angeles Times previously had reported last October that Baffert had 75 horses die since 2000, either by racing, training, illness or in non-exercise accidents. Thats an aweful lot of horses in less than 2 years . How would we all be talking if Waller came up with numbers like that ???
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Posted: 05 May 2022 at 11:01am |
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unreal Djebel, i know a few breeders who try and avoid anything US bred because of the drug issues there
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change is simply a destination on a journey reached by taking the first step (i said that) lol
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Posted: 05 May 2022 at 1:50am |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Posted: 04 May 2022 at 8:39pm |
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Thanks take2.
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Prejudice is an emotional attachment to ignorance.
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glad you spotted that Kav, i got ballsed up with island falcon, understandable considering the similarity with the names crown pride and island falcon (yeaaaaaaah right), at least it wasn't second chance who spotted it lol i read something about crown pride,and damian lane provided the aussie connection there, ( i think that island falcon and crown pride raced at the same meet in dubai), and then the old brain fade i think, anyway i am sticking with crown pride (minus anamoe obviously lol) and lynch's horse, they dropped damian and christoph lemaire is riding it, julien leparoux is riding classic causeway they say in the blurb he (leparousx has had 187 starts this season for 187 wins? confused? yes i am lol Julien LeparouxKentucky Derby horse: Classic Causeway The scoop: Leparoux enters the Derby with 13 appearances including a seventh-place finish last year with Helium as well as finishing sixth in 2020 aboard Storm the Court. His best finish in the Derby was in 2017 when he came in fourth aboard Classic Empire. He also rode Master Fencer to a sixth-place finish in the 2019 Derby, as well. The Frenchman has made 187 starts in 2022 with 187 wins. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/horses/kentucky-derby/2022/05/03/meet-jockeys-2022-kentucky-derby-churchill-downs/6551686001/ Edited by Take2 - 04 May 2022 at 8:14pm |
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change is simply a destination on a journey reached by taking the first step (i said that) lol
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