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    Posted: 26 Oct 2021 at 7:42pm
Was thinking about this last night looking at some old Bloodstock reviews.

Is there a list somewhere of the order of sires with G1 winners?

I know Galileo would be top of the list up around the high 80's, then Danehill, Sadlers Wells, followed by Zabeel, Dubawi, Sir Tristram in the mid 40's and then the memory gets sketchy....

Fastnet Rock, Redoute's Choice, Deep Impact would be there somewhere climbing up to 40 I assume.

I arbitrarily said 20 as that's the number Frankel is on from just 5 or 6 crops and I'm sure in years to come he will topple his dad.

 
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bluebloods has it -

Galileo 1998 Sadler's Wells 92
Danehill 1986 Danzig 84
Sadler’s Wells 1981 Northern Dancer 73
Southern Halo 1983 Halo 58
Roy 1983 Fappiano 54
Deep Impact 2002 Sunday Silence 53
Danzig 1977 Northern Dancer 47
Mr Prospector 1970 Raise a Native 47
Zabeel 1986 Sir Tristram 47
Dubawi 2002 Dubai Millennium 46
Sir Tristram 1971 Sir Ivor 45
Sunday Silence 1986 Halo 44
Fastnet Rock 2001 Danehill 41
Redoute's Choice 1996 Danehill 39
Giant’s Causeway 1997 Storm Cat 36
Storm Cat 1983 Storm Bird 35
Nijinsky 1967 Northern Dancer 34
A P Indy 1989 Seattle Slew 32
Pivotal 1993 Polar Falcon 32
Montjeu 1996 Sadler's Wells 31
Northern Dancer 1961 Nearctic 31
Nureyev 1977 Northern Dancer 31
Scat Daddy (USA) 2004 Johannesburg 31
Wallace 1892 Carbine 31
Hussonet 1991 Mr Prospector 30
Lode 1986 Mr Prospector 29
Seattle Slew 1974 Bold Reasoning 29
Bold Ruler 1954 Nasrullah 27
Ghadeer 1978 Lyphard 27
Hyperion 1930 Gainsborough 27
Shamardal 2002 Giant's Causeway 27
Tapit 2001 Pulpit 27
Encosta De Lago 1993 Fairy King 26
Kingmambo 1990 Mr Prospector 26
Lyphard 1969 Northern Dancer 26
Medaglia d'Oro 1999 El Prado 26
More Than Ready 1997 Southern Halo 26
Captain Al 1996 Al Mufti 25
Silvano 1996 Lomitas 25
Street Cry 1998 Machiavellian 25
The Buzzard 1926 Spion Kop 25
Blushing Groom 1974 Red God 24
Dynaformer 1985 Roberto 24
Equal Stripes 1999 Candy Stripes 24
Limond 1913 Desmond 24
Savabeel 2001 Zabeel 24
Vaguely Noble 1965 Vienna 24
War Front 2002 Danzig 24
Alydar 1975 Raise a Native 23
Congreve 1924 Copyright 23
Danehill Dancer 1993 Danehill 23
High Chaparral 1999 Sadler's Wells 23
Man o’ War 1917 Fair Play 23
Nasrullah 1940 Nearco 23
Neapolis 1885 Spiringfield 23
Riverman 1969 Never Bend 23
Western Winter 1992 Gone West 23
Blandford 1919 Swynford 22
Dansili 1996 Danehill 22
Foxbridge 1930 Foxlaw 22
Khaled 1943 Hyperion 22
Le Filou 1946 Vatellor 22
Martian 1901 Martagon 22
Monsun 1990 Konigsstuhl 22
Royal Academy 1987 Nijinsky 22
Theatrical 1982 Nureyev 22
Unbridled’s Song 1993 Unbridled 22
Wild Event 1993 Wild Again 22
Djebel 1937 Tourbillon 21
Jet Master 1994 Rakeen 21
Midstream 1933 Blandford 21
Mutakddim 1991 Seeking the Gold 21
Speightstown 1998 Gone West 21
St Simon 1881 Galopin 21
Teofilo 2004 Galileo 21
The Welkin 1904 Flying Fox 21
Bull Lea 1933 Bull Dog 20
Caro 1967 Fortino 20
Frankel 2008 Galileo 20
Heliopolis 1936 Hyperion 20
Invincible Spirit 1997 Green Desert 20
Maltster 1897 Bill of Portland 20
Orpen 1996 Lure 20
Put it Back 1998 Honour and Glory 20
Rainbow Quest 1981 Blushing Groom 20
Roi Normand 1983 Exclusive Native 20
Sir Gallahad 1920 Teddy 20
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Pretty sure some of the South American G1 would of been missed but they are hard to trace.
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You also have to remember some of those stallion served far fewer numbers than those since the 1990's.
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Top stuff Furious. 

Bold Ruler at 27 G1 winners off some very low numbers. Amazing

Mind you not everyone could afford to breed either so the participation pool was much lower from breeders as well.
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Surprised that Silvano is that high on that list.... and what have I missed - who the heck is Roy? One of the South Americans you mentioned.
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Be interesting to see the foals per year figure of the most prolific year for the top sire of the 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s noughties teens and now.
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I know there has been an increase in numbers but was it a gradual rise or a sudden rise at some point in time?
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Originally posted by Nobody Nobody wrote:

Surprised that Silvano is that high on that list.... and what have I missed - who the heck is Roy? One of the South Americans you mentioned.


Roy was an American horse who stood at stud in Argentina
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The Pedigree Query notes on Roy (USA) are :

      Owner: John A. Nerud. Haras Figuron.
    Breeder: Carelaine Farm
State Bred: FL
  Winnings: 17 Starts: 3 - 2 - 3, $91,567

2nd: Sanford S. [G2]
3rd: Jaipur S. [G3]

Sent to Chile 1989; Brazil 1996 (1 yr), USA (Darby Dan) 1996-7 ($10K); Argentina in 2000; Chile 2002.
9-time Leading Sire in Chile (1991-1999)
2-time Leading Sire in Argentina (2002, 2008)
His single crop in Brazil resulted in 14 SW. Overall, 14 Champions.
Died of respiratory ailment Jan. 7, 2005 at Haras La Esperanza.
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Fantastic to see Wallace and Maltster included on the list too - although I would want to scrutinize the count - just races are they including as Group 1 ?
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Just a query.
The US Grading system come in 1973.
Anything before that is hard to judge and also certain events would be missed since they are now discontinued.
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I notice Sunday Silence is credited with 44 G1 winners. However, I thought that back in the era his progeny raced, most Grade Ones in Japan were only considered to be Local G1s & only a few were International G1s. Consequently, when I researched this a few months ago, I was of the opinion that Sunday Silence only had 15 International G1 winners. However, the sources from which I obtained this information seemed to be have contradicting views on the status of those races.



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Look take the early ones as races dating back from when the G1 race system started.  That's all we can do.  Take the local G1's.  

It was that was for a lot of the sires on all the lists.  As stated the Grading System came in 1973 so before that the list of G1's was smaller than today.  The sires served less mares than today.  In fact to get the numbers some of them have they were breed changers.
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Danehill could be higher up the list.  He had three G1 local victories in HK which I think where rated but Arion doesn't have on the list so they had to get knocked out.
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Wallace was the Oaks, Derby and Cups king of his era.  Massive number of classic winners.
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Furious - does bluebloods also have a list of broodmare sires by number of G1 progeny ? 

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Northern Dancer offspring year by year (in my data, possibly missing a few)

1966_(17)
1967_(20)
1968_(22)
1969_(15)
1970_(12)
1971_(14)
1972_(23)
1973_(20)
1974_(30)
1975_(26)
1976_(28)
1977_(30)
1978_(26)
1979_(24)
1980_(28)
1981_(30)
1982_(23)
1983_(31)
1984_(28)
1985_(25)
1986_(27)
1987_(20)
1988_(2)

All_(521)


In my data Northern Dancer's presence in Gen1, Gen2, Gen3, G3n4, Gen5 of horses born since he went to stud.  (note this is not a count of offspring, grandchildren, great-grandchildren and so on as he can appear many times in, for example, the 5th generation of one horse)

Gen 1        521
Gen 2    16,974
Gen 3    74,456
Gen 4  128,783
Gen 5    91,152

Yes, I did this for all sires in my data.

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Offspring in my data.   %s doubtful as I don't have their full crops.  Does anyone?
Sire DOB Gr1 Offspring %
Sadler’s Wells 1981 73 1769 4.1%
Unbridled’s Song 1993 22 1657 1.3%
Galileo 1998 92 1565 5.9%
Mutakddim 1991 21 1503 1.4%
Zabeel 1986 47 1467 3.2%
Danehill 1986 84 1391 6.0%
Storm Cat 1983 35 1390 2.5%
Sunday Silence 1986 44 1293 3.4%
Ghadeer 1978 27 1148 2.4%
Danehill Dancer 1993 23 1139 2.0%
Pivotal 1993 32 1121 2.9%
Dansili 1996 22 986 2.2%
Lode 1986 29 984 2.9%
Invincible Spirit 1997 20 967 2.1%
Theatrical 1982 22 959 2.3%
Roi Normand 1983 20 959 2.1%
Montjeu 1996 31 872 3.6%
Nijinsky 1967 34 848 4.0%
Mr Prospector 1970 47 835 5.6%
Royal Academy 1987 22 799 2.8%
Rainbow Quest 1981 20 783 2.6%
Lyphard 1969 26 764 3.4%
Shamardal 2002 27 757 3.6%
Danzig 1977 47 740 6.4%
Giant’s Causeway 1997 36 736 4.9%
Dubawi 2002 46 730 6.3%
High Chaparral 1999 23 691 3.3%
Vaguely Noble 1965 24 655 3.7%
Seattle Slew 1974 29 590 4.9%
Nureyev 1977 31 566 5.5%
Orpen 1996 20 559 3.6%
Teofilo 2004 21 554 3.8%
Fastnet Rock 2001 41 553 7.4%
Northern Dancer 1961 31 522 5.9%
Riverman 1969 23 522 4.4%
Kingmambo 1990 26 517 5.0%
Street Cry 1998 25 516 4.8%
Dynaformer 1985 24 512 4.7%
Southern Halo 1983 58 488 11.9%
A P Indy 1989 32 476 6.7%
Monsun 1990 22 465 4.7%
Sir Tristram 1971 45 455 9.9%
Alydar 1975 23 420 5.5%
Redoute's Choice 1996 39 414 9.4%
Encosta De Lago 1993 26 401 6.5%
Hyperion 1930 27 372 7.3%
More Than Ready 1997 26 365 7.1%
Blushing Groom 1974 24 346 6.9%
Bold Ruler 1954 27 290 9.3%
Nasrullah 1940 23 280 8.2%
Caro 1967 20 275 7.3%
St Simon 1881 21 264 8.0%
Sir Gallahad 1920 20 263 7.6%
Medaglia d'Oro 1999 26 260 10.0%
Deep Impact 2002 53 253 20.9%
Roy 1983 54 206 26.2%
Hussonet 1991 30 187 16.0%
Bull Lea 1933 20 187 10.7%
War Front 2002 24 184 13.0%
Speightstown 1998 21 174 12.1%
Man O’ War 1917 23 170 13.5%
Frankel 2008 20 170 11.8%
Blandford 1919 22 160 13.8%
Djebel 1937 21 154 13.6%
Tapit 2001 27 149 18.1%
Khaled 1943 22 136 16.2%
Savabeel 2001 24 129 18.6%
Heliopolis 1936 20 125 16.0%
Congreve 1924 23 122 18.9%
Foxbridge 1930 22 120 18.3%
Wild Event 1993 22 117 18.8%
Scat Daddy (USA) 2004 31 116 26.7%
Le Filou 1946 22 109 20.2%
Silvano 1996 25 107 23.4%
Midstream 1933 21 90 23.3%
Martian 1901 22 75 29.3%
Put it Back 1998 20 72 27.8%
Limond 1913 24 63 38.1%
Western Winter 1992 23 63 36.5%
Jet Master 1994 21 63 33.3%
Wallace 1892 31 62 50.0%
The Welkin 1904 21 51 41.2%
Captain Al 1996 25 37 67.6%
Maltster 1897 20 36 55.6%
Equal Stripes 1999 24 33 72.7%
The Buzzard 1926 25 32 78.1%
Neapolis 1885 23 30 76.7%
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They used to but the data bank changed so wouldn't be up to date.  I'll look later after I finish morning work.
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I can confirm Wallace's 31 retrospective Group 1 winners but he sired a lot more than 62 runners.  Pedigree Query, which is neither complete nor always reliable lists 134 progeny.
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Now this list is not complete - only up to Sept 2019 so lots of changes in recent years for the youngs stallions on the list.

Sadler’s Wells 1981 Northern Dancer 72 up till 14 June 2019
Danehill 1986 Danzig 70 up till 15 July 2019
Mr Prospector 1970 Raise a Native 49 up till 14th Feb 2019
Ghadeer 1978 Lyphard 48 up till 14th Dec 2018
Nijinsky 1967 Northern Dancer 46 up till 27th Feb 2019
Darshaan 1981 Shirley Heights 45 up till 30th Jun 2019
Storm Cat 1983 Storm Bird 45 up till 14 June 2019
Northfields (USA) 1968 Northern Dancer 44 up till 27th Feb 2019
Northern Dancer 1961 Nearctic 43 up till 27th Feb 2019
Southern Halo 1983 Halo 42 up till 14th Dec 2018
Zabeel 1986 Sir Tristram 39 up till 14 June 2019
Nureyev 1977 Northern Dancer 38 up till 27th Feb 2019
Sir Tristram 1971 Sir Ivor 34 up till 14th Dec 2018
Buckpasser 1963 Tom Fool 32 up till 5th Jan 2019
Lyphard 1969 Northern Dancer 32 up till 14th Dec 2018
Riverman 1969 Never Bend 31 up till 7th Mar 2019
Woodman 1983 Mr Prospector 31 up to 7 June 2019
Deputy Minister 1979 Vice Regent 30 up till 17th Jan 2019
Seattle Slew 1974 Bold Reasoning 30 up till 19th Aug 2019
Le Filou 1946 Vatellor 29 up till 13th Feb 2019
Princequillo 1940 Prince Rose 29 up till 6th Mar 2019
Galileo 1998 Sadler's Wells 28 up to 1 Sept 2019
Last Tycoon 1983 Try My Best 28 up till 13th Feb 2019
Machiavellian 1987 Mr Prospector 28 up till 14th Feb 2019
Centaine 1980 Century 27 up till 6th Jan 2019
Roy 1983 Fappiano 27 up till 14th Dec 2018
Shirley Heights 1975 Mill Reef 27 up till 14th Mar 2019
Danzig 1977 Northern Dancer 26 up till 10th Jan 2019
Rainbow Quest 1981 Blushing Groom 26 up till 7th Mar 2019
Sovereign Edition 1962 Sovereign Path 26 up till 4th April 2019
A P Indy 1989 Seattle Slew 25 up till 14 June 2019
Graustark 1963 Ribot 25 up to 23rd Jan 2019
Habitat 1966 Sir Gaylord 25 up till 14th Dec 2018
Secretariat 1970 Bold Ruler 25 up till 14th Mar 2019
Northern Taste (CAN) 1971 Northern Dancer 24 up till 27th Feb 2019
Vaguely Noble 1965 Vienna 24 up till 14th Dec 2018
Blushing Groom 1974 Red God 23 up till 5th Jan 2019
Marscay 1979 Biscay 23 up till 14th Feb 2019
Sir Ivor (USA) 1965 Sir Gaylord 23 up till 4th April 2019
Unbridled’s Song 1993 Unbridled 23 up to 7 June 2019
Alleged  1974 Hoist the Flag 22 up till 7th Mar 2019
Dixieland Band 1980 Northern Dancer 22 up to 1 Sept 2019
Irish River 1976 Riverman 22 up till 7th Mar 2019
Kingmambo 1990 Mr Prospector 22 up till 14 June 2019
Prince John 1953 Princequillo 22 up till 14th Dec 2018
Alydar 1975 Raise a Native 21 up till 4th Jan 2019
Candy Stripes 1982 Blushing Groom 21 up till 14 June 2019
Round Table 1954 Princequillo 21 up till 7th Mar 2019
Zamazaan 1965 Exbury 21 up to 7 June 2019
Bletchingly 1970 Biscay 20 up till 4th Jan 2019
Cipayo 1974 Lacydon 20 up till 7th Jan 2019
Diesis 1980 Sharpen Up 20 up till 17th Jan 2019
Kris 1976 Sharpen Up 20 up till 13th Feb 2019
Roberto 1969 Hail to Reason 20 up till 7th Mar 2019
Royal Academy 1987 Nijinsky 20 up till 14th Dec 2018
Bold Ruler 1954 Nasrullah 19 up till 5th Jan 2019
Hussonet 1991 Mr Prospector 19 up till 13th Feb
Linamix 1987 Mendez 19 up till 13th Feb 2019
Lode 1986 Mr Prospector 19 up till 14th Dec 2018
Pivotal 1993 Polar Falcon 19 up till 12 July 2019
Gone West 1984 Mr Prospector 18 up till 14th Dec 2018
Rahy 1985 Blushing Groom 18 up till 6th Mar 2019
El Gran Senor 1981 Northern Dancer 17 up till 14th Dec 2018
Giant’s Causeway 1997 Storm Cat 17 up till 14th Dec 2018
Halo 1969 Hail to Reason 17 up till 23rd Jan 2019
High Top 1969 Derring-Do 17 up to 7th Jan 2019
Miswaki 1978 Mr Prospector 17 up till 14th Feb 2019
Raise a Native (USA) 1961 Native Dancer 17 up till 7th Mar 2019
Ribot 1952 Tenerani 17 up till 7th Mar 2019
Roi Normand 1983 Exclusive Native 17 up till 7th Mar 2019
Vice Regent 1967 Northern Dancer 17 up to 7 June 2019
Indian Ridge 1985 Ahonoora 16 up till 13th Feb 2019
Interprete 1988 Farnesio 16 up till 13th Feb 2019
Storm Bird 1978 Northern Dancer 16 up till 4th April 2019
Damascus 1964 Sword Dancer 15 up till 7th Jan 2019
Mill Reef 1968 Never Bend 15 up till 14th Feb 2019
Never Bend (USA) 1960 Nasrullah 15 up till 14th Feb 2019
Peintre Celebre 1994 Nureyev 15 up till 6th Mar 2019
Vain 1966 Wilkes 15 up till 7 june 2019
Canny Lad 1987 Bletchingly 14 up till 23rd Mar 2019
Caro 1967 Fortino 14 up till 6th Jan 2019
Distorted Humor 1993 Forty Niner 14 up till 30th july 2019
Exclusive Native 1965 Raise a Native 14 up till 7th Mar 2019
Fort Wood 1990 Sadler's Wells 14 up till 14th Dec 2018
Hoist the Flag 1968 Tom Rolfe 14 up till 13th Feb 2019
Kris S 1977 Roberto 14 up till 13th Feb 2019
O'Reilly 1993 Last Tycoon 14 up till 6th Mar 2019
Redoute's Choice 1996 Danehill 14 up till 14 Jun 2019
Snippets 1984 Lunchtime 14 up till 4th April 2019
Theatrical 1982 Nureyev 14 up to 11th April 2019
Affirmed 1975 Exclusive Native 13 up till 7th Mar 2019
Al Mufti 1985 Roberto 13 up till 4th Jan 2019
Alzao 1980 Lyphard 13 up till 4th Jan 2019
Bernstein 1997 Storm Cat 13 up till 4th Jan 2019
Better Boy 1951 My Babu 13 up till 4th Jan 2019
Dr Fager (USA) 1964 Rough'n Tumble 13 up till 17th Jan 2019
Dynaformer 1985 Roberto 13 up till 14th Dec 2018
Encosta De Lago 1993 Fairy King 13 up till 14th Dec 2018
Foveros 1976 Averof 13 up till 14th Dec 2018
French Deputy 1992 Deputy Minister 13 up till 14th Dec 2018
Hail To Reason 1958 Turn-To 13 up till 14th Dec 2018
In Reality 1964 Intentionally 13 up till 14th Dec 2018
Monsun 1990 Konigsstuhl 13 up till 14th Feb 2019
Native Dancer 1950 Polynesian 13 up till 7th Mar 2019
Top Ville 1976 High Top 13 up to 11th April 2019
Anabaa 1992 Danzig 12 up till 4th Jan 2019
Green Desert 1983 Danzig 12 up till 14th Dec 2018
Kenmare 1975 Kalamoun 12 up till 13th Feb 2019
Nodouble 1965 Noholme 12 up till 4th April 2019
Sharpen Up 1969 Atan 12 up till 14th Mar 2019
Singspiel 1992 In the Wings 12 up till 4th April 2019
Busted 1963 Crepello 11 up till 6th Jan 2019
Herbager 1956 Vandale 11 up till 13th Feb 2019
Kaoru Star 1965 Star Kingdom 11 up till 13th Feb 2019
Wild Again 1980 Icecapade 11 up to 7 June 2019
Grand Lodge 1991 Chief's Crown 10 up till 23rd Jan 2019
Luskin Star 1974 Keoru Star 10 up till 13th Feb 2019
Oncidium 1961 Alcide 10 up till 6th Mar 2019
Red Ransom 1987 Roberto 10 up till 7th Mar 2019
Sir Gaylord 1959 Turn-To 10 up till 4th April 2019
Volksraad 1988 Green Desert 10 up to 7 June 2019
Wilkes  1952 Court Martial 10 up to 7 June 2019
Flying Spur 1992 Danehill 9 up till 6th Mar 2019
Jallad 1988 Blushing Groom 9 up till 13th Feb 2019
Orpen 1996 Lure 9 up till 6th Mar 2019
Showdown 1961 Infatuation 9 up till 14th Mar 2019
Smart Strike 1992 Mr Prospector 9 up till 4th April 2019
Best Western 1978 Bletchingly 8 up till 4th Jan 2019
Chief's Crown 1982 Danzig 8 up till 7th Jan 2019
Dixie Union  1997 Dixieland Band 8 up to 1 Sept 2019
Elusive Quality (USA) 1993 Gone West 8 up till 14th Dec 2018
Alcimedes 1954 Alycidon 7 up till 4th Jan 2019
Arch 1995 Kris S 7 up to 1 Sept 2019
Biscay 1965 Star Kingdom 7 up till 4th Jan 2019
Cape Cross 1994 Green Desert 7 up till 6th Jan 2019
Chieftan 1981 Bold Ruler 7 up till 6th Jan 2019
Dansili 1996 Danehill 7 up till 9th Jan 2019
Exceed and Excel 2000 Danehill 7 up till 9th June 2019
Fappiano 1977 Mr Prospector 7 up till 14th Dec 2018
High Chaparral 1999 Sadler's Wells 7 up till 13th Feb 2019
His Majesty 1968 Ribot 7 up till 13th Feb 2019
Khow Heights  1989 Shirley Heights 7 up till 14 Jun 2019
Rubiton 1983 Century 7 up till 5th Jan 2019
Thunder Gulch 1992 Gulch 7 up to 11th April 2019
Awesome Again 1994 Deputy Minister 6 up till 4th Jan 2019
Brian's Time 1985 Roberto 6 up till 5th Jan 2019
Danehill Dancer 1993 Danehill 6 up till 7th Jan 2019
Montjeu 1996 Sadler's Wells 6 up till 14th Dec 2018
Street Cry 1998 Machiavellian 6 up till 4th April 2019
More Than Ready 1997 Southern Halo 5 up till 14th Dec 2018
Tiznow 1997 Cee's Tizzy 5 up to 11th April 2019
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Thats a list of broodmare sires with G1 winners from my records.
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The following is a list I compiled early this year of sires of G1 winners based on stats available from Equine Line at the time. Those stallions were foaled since 1980. I have only included thise with 20 or more G1 winners.



My next post will include stats available from Arion & include Australian, New Zealand & South African based sires.


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Stats available from Arion & include Australian, New Zealand & South African based sires.



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As you can see, there are differences between the two sources.

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roughly depends of entry into the data base.  When the data base starts for certain countries etc etc etc.  No databases go back till day one completely.

Even when searching for early horses if the line wasn't continued the only stud book doesn't have it.  So early stud books have to be uses.  For a complete number of foals ect you can only get them from certain dates late last century!  Most of the stakes winners are there etc.  But only named foals for mares and only certain named foals for earlier mares.

I gets tricky.
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Also even Arion and Bloodhound differ for numbers and prizemoney sometimes.  THat can be due to how RISA gives out prizemoney.  THe complete prizemoney for the race includes all the trophies and retirement fund etc.  Not always given.  Even on Risa.  No trophies are included you have to go searching or check the winner after the race to find out if a trophy was there in the prize.  

Makes for fun getting data these days.
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Regarding the list posted earlier by diomed, back in 2015, Equine Line had the following number of foals :-
Nijinsky - 862
Mr Prospector - 1195
Lyphard - 843
Danzig - 1099
Vaguely Noble - 752
Seattle Slew - 1103
Nureyev - 806
Northern Dancer - 646
Riverman - 990
Alydar - 707
Hyperion - 497
Blushing Groom - 522
Bold Ruler - 366
Nasrullah - 426
Caro - 618
Sir Gallahad - 557
Bull Lea - 376
Man O' War - 381
Blandford - 156
Djebel - 195
Khaled - 527
Heliopolis - 346

Back in 2015, Arion had the following number of foals of ANZ based sires :-
Sir Tristram - 1217
Foxbridge - 429
Le Filou - 386
Midstream - 354
Limond - 166
Wallace - 150
The Welkin - 168
The Buzzard - 374

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Just another reason why Wallace deserves to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.We have a small but very knowledgeable sub-group working on this & all HoF categories from the 19th Century.
Wish Tontonan could be part of this one day.




















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