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djebel
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They are so split now. They have been over run by the far right. They are a split party.
They are so divided could they actually split and become two ? There are some very reasonable a civilised people in the Republican Party but they are being bullied and over run and out shouted by the right wing nut jobs. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Well, that’s the public perception but
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TJMitchell
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...but?
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Time is a flat circle
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Shrunk in the Wash
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I’m not sure what Djebel is saying is the reality
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TJMitchell
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Time is a flat circle
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djebel
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There is such a viciousness with these far right dingbats that have infiltrated the party since Sarah Palin was selected as running mate to John McCain giving these lying fools a voice and empowering them to spew their vile nonsense.
Moderate Republican need to distance themselves from these fools.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Shrunk in the Wash
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There is such a viciousness with these far left dingbats as well mate, it didn’t stop them winning the election and it didn’t stop 75 million voting for Trump. The republicans won’t have any issues. I suspect the next 4 years will play out very badly for the Democrats |
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Passing Through
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I doubt they will split. As feral as the far right is, Republicans cant survive without them.
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Tlazolteotl
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The Man Who Broke PoliticsNewt Gingrich turned partisan battles into bloodsport, wrecked Congress, and paved the way for Trump’s rise. Now he’s reveling in his achievements. ...
One memo, titled “Language: A Key Mechanism of Control,” included a list of recommended words to use in describing Democrats: sick, pathetic, lie, anti-flag, traitors, radical, corrupt. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/ It's all there. All the ugly details of Newt's achievement but a long article. ... |
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max manewer
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Tony Abbott had elements of that, a one trick pony that knew only partisanship.
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Tlazolteotl
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Trump Is Blowing Apart the G.O.P. God Bless Him.There still will be a place for principled Republicans. Thomas L Friedman When all the facts come out about the treasonous attack on the U.S. Capitol inspired by President Trump, impeaching him three times won’t feel sufficient. Consider this Washington Post headline from Monday: “Video Shows Capitol Mob Dragging Police Officer Down Stairs. One Rioter Beat the Officer With a Pole Flying the U.S. Flag.” That said, while I want Trump out — and I don’t mind him being silenced at such a tense time — I’m not sure I want him permanently off Twitter and Facebook. There’s important work that I need Trump to perform in his post-presidency, and I need him to have proper megaphones to do it. It’s to blow apart this Republican Party. My No. 1 wish for America today is for this Republican Party to fracture, splitting off the principled Republicans from the unprincipled Republicans and Trump cultists. That would be a blessing for America for two reasons. First, because it could actually end the gridlock in Congress and enable us to do some big things on infrastructure, education and health care that would help ALL Americans — not the least those in Trump’s camp, who are there precisely because they feel ignored, humiliated and left behind. If just a few principled center-right Republicans, like Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski, abandoned this G.O.P. or were simply willing to work with a center-left Biden team, the Problem Solvers Caucus in the House and like-minded members in the Senate — the people who got the recent stimulus bill passed — would become stronger than ever. That’s how we start to dial down the madness coursing through our nation and get us back to seeing each other as fellow citizens, not enemies. Second, if the principled Republicans split from the Trump cult, the rump pro-Trump G.O.P. would have a very hard time winning a national election anytime soon. And given what we’ve just seen, these Trumpers absolutely cannot be trusted with power again. Think about what they’ve done. All these Trump-cult lawmakers willingly promoted Trump’s Big Lie. And think how big it was: Trump took the most heroic election in American history — an election in which more Americans voted than ever before, freely and fairly in the midst of a deadly pandemic — and claimed it was all a fraud, because he didn’t win. And then, on the basis of that Big Lie, eight Republican senators and 139 House members voted to nullify Joe Biden’s electoral victory. That is sick. That is why I hope the party splits. And here is why a still noisy Trump could be so helpful in breaking it. |
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Tlazolteotl
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What is it that Senators Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz were dreaming of when they went full treason and tried to get Congress to reverse Biden’s win on the basis of the Big Lie? They were dreaming of a world of Trumpism without Trump. They thought that if they cravenly did Trump’s bidding now, once he was gone his base would be theirs. Hawley and Cruz are so power hungry, they would burn America to the ground if they thought they could be president of its ashes. But they’re fools. As Trump and his kids made clear at the rally that inspired some of his supporters to ransack the Capitol, the Trumps are interested only in Trumpism with Trumps. Or as Donald Trump Jr. explained to the soon-to-be rioters (whom Ivanka called “patriots”), the G.O.P. needed a wake-up. All those Republicans in Congress, said Don Jr., “did nothing to stop the steal. This gathering should send a message to them: This isn’t their Republican Party anymore. This is Donald Trump’s Republican Party.” You tell ’em, Donny. The more you insist on that, the more principled Republicans will have to leave. And since a recent Quinnipiac survey showed that more than 70 percent of Republicans still support Trump, you can be sure he will keep insisting it is his party and keep saying vile things that will constitute daily loyalty tests for all Republican lawmakers, forcing them to answer if they are with him or not. That stress will be enormous. |
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max manewer
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It certainly looks like the Chinese century, with this team of sh*t waiting in the wings.
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Shammy Davis
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Passing Through
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Dear Shammy, most of the genuine conservative thinking people have left the Trumpublican Party. That is in large part why you got smashed in November by 8 million votes and may, as Donald and Graham warn, never be elected again..
Oh that's right, the election hasn't been resolved yet. Not even a failed coup resolved it. Maybe the 50 state siege promised by the ''conservatives'' next week will resolve it.
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marble
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don't forget that 70% of republicans are ok with having a mentally unstable ,lying narcissist leading their party.
any republican person, woman, man with a camera or a tv love him
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Passing Through
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Watching the impeachment speeches today marble. Any suggestion that there is a rift in the Republican Party, at a congressional level can be safely put to rest.
Nearly 200 R's standing one after another repeating all the Trump Big Lies of Russia hoax, impeachment hoax, voter fraud hoax, twitter shutdown, Dems saying really mean things as justification for calling a coup.
One idiot Matt Gaetz even cited Nancy tearing up Trump's State of the Union speech as reason Trump should be angry enough to set his Nazi storm troopers onto the Capitol. |
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marble
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i know - didn't 150 or so support the election hoax bullsh#te.
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marble
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Shammy, is it your paranoia or your private embarrassment of trump that clouds your thinking? most aussies dont give a rats if you have a democrat or republican government. Donny the outrageous criminal has generated all this interest in yankee politics. It's the best reality show on earth at the moment. I laugh while being horrified at the same time.
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Passing Through
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Fun fact: There are more US troops in Washington to protect Biden's inauguration from Trump supporters than there are in Afghanistan and Iraq to protect US interests from ISIS and Taliban.
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Tlazolteotl
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Didn't I hear yesterday that it is going to be a "virtual in inauguration"?
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Passing Through
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Yes but the Trumpist ''stop the steal'' idiots that bought the lie are still marching on the Capitol as well as 50 state legislatures on inauguration day.
It will just be a gigantic FBI clock and tag the terrorists event.
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djebel
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Clearly this thread is not about disparaging all conservative thinking just you far right kisssticks.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Passing Through
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The split you should be looking at djebel is Trumpers and Qanon.
That could get ugly.
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Are you really watching the impeachment speeches?
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Well, you got that wrong
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Passing Through
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They are over Shrunk. Didn't you hear? Trump impeached again.
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Shrunk in the Wash
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But you sat there and watched it?
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TJMitchell
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Would that really surprise you Shrunk?
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Time is a flat circle
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Of course, I dont wait for my Q alerts to find out what is going on.
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