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acacia alba
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Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 1:01pm |
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Done in the A S M was it ? Not surprised, on that track after the rain.
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animals before people.
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Afros
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Such a shame, felt like he hasn't reached his full potential yet.
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brave_ponies
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aa, Tendon tear in near-fore
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Gay3
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Take2
Jamal, highly likely with extensive rehab but what would there to be gained? He'd not be ready for Spring carnival 2021 but possibly the Autumn, whereas he could be earning money at stud within 6mths. No brainer to me |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Take2
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unreal, had a look, must've been a "male look" to quote from the chairman of the board
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change is simply a destination on a journey reached by taking the first step (i said that) lol
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acacia alba
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Since I cant see where it says whats wrong with him, how do we know if he could recover and come back, Jamal ??
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animals before people.
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Jamal
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Do you think he could of recovered and come back?
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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djebel
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Was announced exc lusively on the forum 25 minutes ago.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Take2
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I heard this, is it true?
Please check the 'search' prior to starting new threads. Didn't you suspect he might have his own already? Edited by Gay3 - 18 Mar 2021 at 10:22am |
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change is simply a destination on a journey reached by taking the first step (i said that) lol
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djebel
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kiss.
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reductio ad absurdum
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TJMitchell
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Has an injury and will be retired with immediate effect.
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Time is a flat circle
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djebel
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I hope they keep him fresh and go straight to the Queen Elizabeth.
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reductio ad absurdum
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TJMitchell
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Good on them for sticking to the original plan of the mile.
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Time is a flat circle
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Brudder_A
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Just to bump this and also give credit due. Of course the barrier helped. Last 80 metres Mugatoo's stride just a bit stronger. May be it was because that run in Apollo softened him up!!! Nonetheless Russian Camelot should pick up some more nice checks!
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TJMitchell
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"There is an option of going to the Futurity but I wouldn't want to push him out of his comfort zone to win a Group 1 first-up. I'd say more than likely he'll go first-up into the all star mile."
Middle distance horse has first up target of All star mile. Has a jumpout/trial. Trainer says there is an option to run in a 1400m Gr1 first up. Is it groundhog day? Although this one seems less likely.
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Time is a flat circle
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Shawy38
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https://www.rsn.net.au/featured/07/02/2021/can-the-russian-raise-his-head/
By Matt Stewart, Racing Editor Is there a horse in Australia that can raise its head above the pack? The first hint of an answer might come at the trials tomorrow when Russian Camelot springs the gates at Cranbourne. Russian Camelot’s star did not plummet last spring but it faded. A brave second after a wide run in the Makybe Diva Stakes appeared an exciting platform for the exotic Northern Hemisphere-bred colt and his second-up Underwood Stakes win appeared to set him up as the X-factor horse from this under-performing corner of the racing world. But a subsequent defeat to Arcadia Queen in the Caulfield Stakes, then a well-held third to so-so internationals Sir Dragonet and Armory in the Cox Plate, then an honourable but fading eighth in the Melbourne Cup, consigned Russian Camelot to a mere face in the pack. But Russian Camelot wandered off stage in early November as at least a horse with wriggle room. Being Northern Hemisphere-bred, he was always six months behind and while trainer Danny O’Brien insisted Russian Camelot had been mature enough to absorb his spring agenda, there was also a sense that he was playing catch-up. There had been a wow factor about him since his South Australian Derby win at just his fourth start the previous May and it was as much about his style and swagger as his turn of foot and scope. But he never quite looked the part in the spring. He was the most observed horse in the pre-parade ring prior to the Makybe Diva and while there was certainly something there, some astute observers thought he looked “babyish.” O’Brien reported a few days ago that Russian Camelot had thrived during his break, piling on 30 kilograms. Physically, he appears to have “caught up.” From Cranbourne, Russian Camelot might have a first-up dip at the Futurity Stakes in a fortnight prior to the All Star Mile and then a fairly brief autumn that might round off in the Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Randwick. It’s hard to gauge the challenge that will confront Russian Camelot and whether he can raise his head above his rivals and prove to the world that when we don’t have a Winx, we can at least generate horses capable of making “the list.” The Longines ratings are riddled with inconsistencies but the basement ratings of our best horses Arcadia Queen, Russian Camelot and Verry Elleegant on the recent rankings was sobering. They ranked equal 41st on the “best horse lists.” Glass half full administrators can explain this away all they like, by distracting us with the relatively high rankings of our sprinters, but the dim recognition of our best middle distance horses reflects the desperate need for horses to advance from the ruck. The three-year-olds are “even”, which is a nice way of saying average. Ole Kirk is worth the equivalent of a block of units in Bondi after winning “stallion” races the Golden Rose and Caulfield Guineas, but he wasn’t super dominant in either of those races last spring. Hot-pots went under left, right and centre on a shifting track at Randwick yesterday, so there may be some excuse, but Ole Kirk was just fair. Ditto another of last spring’s better three-year-olds, Crosshaven, in the Orr at Caulfield. Probabeel, Arcadia Queen, Russian Camelot and Sir Dragonet are our best horses but they are not turnstile clickers. There had been a hope that Sir Dragonet would have launched off the Cox Plate and found a sharp length under the care of Maher/Eustace, but he plodded in the Orr. The gloss is off. Arcadia Queen is a top notch mare – even if Longines reckons she’s a global no-name – but she has hit her ceiling Probabeel was mighty at Caulfield yesterday and is marching towards being truly elite but not elite enough to steal the back page, no matter what she wins. With Russian Camelot, though, there is still a sense of what might be. |
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Gay3
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Maybe looking to the 7f in view of his tendency to overrace, especially after a break it's all I can think of.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Foxseal
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But why?
The 1400m of the Memsie didn’t cross their mind in the Spring & he had a super campaign. And a stallion doesn’t need a G1 sprint on their resume to be a commercially viable at stud. Weren’t all of SYT’s G1 wins at 1800m-2040m?
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djebel
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It's not locked in but they are thinking about the Futurity.
They just can not help themselves.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Foxseal
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What’s happening? Is there a change of plans? I hope the Futurity isn’t being mooted as his race to resume in? 1800m to 2500m is his sweet spot. Connections should be mapping out a plan to make sure he’s on target & not jaded for the G1 races in that distance range.
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Tlazolteotl
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First up at a mile then the QE, or what we used to call the Sir Dragonet plan. I thought you would like that. Oh, no, have they changed? Futurity?
Had to write Futurity out twice. Autocorrect changed it to Futility. The Futility Stakes - got a ring to it.
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djebel
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Now the Russian Camelot people are going to kiss things up.
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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Whatever race they target in the Autumn his campaign should be built on races spaced 3 to 4 weeks apart.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Carioca
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Nothing like a racehorse to make a fool out of ya Jamal.
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Jamal
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The next SYT? What winning five G1s in the southern hemisphere and five G1s in the northern hemisphere? I doubt it unlss im wrong.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Jamal
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Yep I saw this win. It was impressive. Good future perhaps coming up.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Majestic
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Spell then avoid dourness, keeping fresh for WFA like the old days. Futurity , Aust Cup, Queen Elizabeth. Then twist Coolmore‘s and Messara’s arms in a private auction for his services at stud. Could be the next SYT. Beautiful animal.
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acacia alba
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Going to set it for next year,s Melb Cup then ???
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animals before people.
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TJMitchell
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Maybe if I ask nicely they'll knock a couple quid off the top
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Time is a flat circle
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kavg
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Didn't you have a big win on mc? Was hoping you'd loan it to me??
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