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If they're up to omicron does that mean there's already been more than a dozen variants discovered??
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35 Th this one is ....   I expect some are not of concern due to near replica make up But appears this one is another like DELTA =   ( Of Concern ) ---------    Still ,    to be expected , On Form.
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Well that's some reason for hope in a way. Seems like only a couple of variants have caused most of the damage.
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Yes .... Not to worry ,    Increasing Population is a bigger worry than some germ trying to reduce our problems .

     That will go over like a baloon full of cement.
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It's 'They're' by the way macca. In your sig.

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More people here being investigated for Omicron variant. It has spread fast in Sth Africa with the most populated province recording 200% increase in cases in the last 7 days, 90% of them the new variant. It is overwhelming Delta there.
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Buckle up anti-zaxxers.
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Doesn't sound great but lots of unknowns still.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/africa/what-we-know-about-omicron-the-new-coronavirus-variant-20211127-p59co4.html

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https://www.newsnodes.com/omicron_tracker/

Hardly any confirmed cases but early days, and let's hope Hong Kong doesn't have more with our borders opening...
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It could actually be a good thing.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Buckle up anti-zaxxers.

    Terrible to think about those millions of jabs that may well be useless.   . Unless you count the side effects that is.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Buckle up anti-zaxxers.

    Terrible to think about those millions of jabs that may well be useless.   . Unless you count the side effects that is.

Side effects? You mean the fact that this is not a descendent of Delta but a new mutation from an unvaccinated SA HIV- AIDS infected person? Careful maxie, the side effect if it doesn't kill you might be that it turns you gay.
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Now you've opened the can of worms PT, this will probably set him off on his HIV-AIDS tangents again.

As far as the latest strain goes well I think new variants are going to keep emerging continually, there is probably more than the number recognised out there, in 5-10 years I think COVID will just be an accepted hurdle in life.
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The difference with this one Afros is that similar to seasonal flu which has new bird virus incorporated into it each year causing an antigenic shift rather than drift from mutations of the original, this one looks like it has incorporated a different virus(HIV) into itself, and it has changed it's original shape and added 4 times as many mutations and 8 new blocking agents into itself, making the mRNA viruses less effective at blocking them ''docking'' than Delta did.

Only time will tell but it is alarming a lot of people.
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[QUOTE=Afros] Now you've opened the can of worms PT, this will probably set him off on his HIV-AIDS tangents again.

As far as the latest strain goes well I think new variants are going to keep emerging continually, there is probably more than the number recognised out there, in 5-10 years I think COVID will just be an accepted hurdle in life.


/QUOTE]    Pointless and uneducated Post Afros..... For a start , when talking Horror Pandemics , hard not to mention HIV/AIDS .
To say in 5 to 10 years "covid" will just be an accepted hurdle is this years laugh .
It has been with us for some 55 million years .
In case you haven't been told , The common cold is a covid strain.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The difference with this one Afros is that similar to seasonal flu which has new bird virus incorporated into it each year causing an antigenic shift rather than drift from mutations of the original, this one looks like it has incorporated a different virus(HIV) into itself, and it has changed it's original shape and added 4 times as many mutations and 8 new blocking agents into itself, making the mRNA viruses less effective at blocking them ''docking'' than Delta did.

Only time will tell but it is alarming a lot of people.
Are you are full-time or part-time epidemiologist PT ?
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Just choose listening to real doctors over Sky News.
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Some weird scenes in Portugal this morning with Belenenses forced to play a game with only 9 players,  including a goalkeeper at right back, due to Covid. Supposed to have 11 players plus 9 on the bench for anyone that doesn't know.

Opponent Benfica were up 7-0 at half time.

Belenenses came back after half time with only 7 players, then had an 'injury' which reduced them to 6 players and forced the ref to abandon the game due to minimum player rules.


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I doubt Sky Specialists dispute what you have stated PT .
It has been widely advertised.

As you know , Many Medical people have expressed a fear that the HIV infected are now victims of other diseases , especially TB , It is a concern that these diseases are finding "factories" to Multiply in.
HIV was NEVER going to disappear like some clowns have stated.
    This new strain may test their expertise by the sounds of it.
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I think HIV is in the top few killers ever maxie, and COVID SARS-2 is well in the top 10 after only 2 years. A mutation of the two, if that proves to be correct could provide an enormous challenge. 

Interesting that in the cases outside of Africa 3 of 3 in Israel were in vacinated people and most are in young people and in the Egyptian case that person didn't test positive till 10 days after suspected infection. All the ''rules'' are being changed.
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I don't think covid rates in top 10 on it's own .   Certainly does rate high when grouped with other lower respiratory diseases. =   

A wait and see "guess game" now .   Will be a kick in the butt if the fully vaccinated start falling in numbers.
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They put HIV at an estimated 50 million and COVID at around 10 million conservatively. Both a long way behind the plague and Spanish flu.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Now you've opened the can of worms PT, this will probably set him off on his HIV-AIDS tangents again.

As far as the latest strain goes well I think new variants are going to keep emerging continually, there is probably more than the number recognised out there, in 5-10 years I think COVID will just be an accepted hurdle in life.
    

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To say in 5 to 10 years "covid" will just be an accepted hurdle is this years laugh .
It has been with us for some 55 million years .
In case you haven't been told , The common cold is a covid strain.

From the king of pointless and uneducated posts, what a compliment!

Maxie, I think the uncontacted tribes of the amazon are aware that covid-19 is from the same virus family as the common cold, but thanks for pointing that out again Thumbs Up

Also, yet again you've done as you accuse E&E of doing and played the man rather than the ball, while as usual missing the point, which was that there will be more and more variants emerging of covid-19 and that we're just going to have to accept it as part of life, hope that clears it up for you Thumbs Up
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New strain conformed in NSW. Oh goody.
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ATAGI will be meeting as we speak considering emergency vaccine booster rollout for all Australians.
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2 confiirmed cases arrived in Sydney on a Qatar airlines flight.  Here we go again.
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