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TJMitchell
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Not like you to disagree with everyone else on the board mate
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Time is a flat circle
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Shrunk in the Wash
Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 9890 |
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Gotta luv an independent thinker, TJ
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TJMitchell
Champion Joined: 29 Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 16915 |
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Time is a flat circle
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max manewer
Champion Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 32947 |
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I think they want an echo chamber here shrunk, a clean sweep, since all your troops have gone AWOL.
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acacia alba
Champion Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Hunter Valley Status: Offline Points: 41483 |
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Now just how did we know Shrunky would go against the rest of us ??? Of course there have been stuff ups . Quarantine with guards who fraternised was a biggie. Guess a captive audience was too good to pass up. When desperate,,,,,,,,,,go for it . Just letting all these people back from OS is a disaster waiting to happen. Look at the positive cases arriving in Darwin, most of them from India. Are they Aussies coming home ? Plane loads of them. ( At tax payers expense ) . Half of Ozz must have been in India when the s**t hit the fan ?? |
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animals before people.
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Passing Through
Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
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Now 37,000 trying to get home, but as has been the case since this started the number of people wanting to return is many times the 6,000/week limit on arrivals. Morrison announced he would have everyone home by Christmas, a promise he could never keep. He added 290 to the limit of arrivals but the announcement brought 9,000 new applications.
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acacia alba
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Everyone who can claim Aust citizenship, half , or more, never having lived here for years, now all want to get back here because of our medical facilities. Many of them are not "returning home " at all. They have been living at home for years. They just want to get back here where its safe and medicare will look after them.
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animals before people.
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Passing Through
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You always see the best in people AA.
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acacia alba
Champion Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Hunter Valley Status: Offline Points: 41483 |
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I see the reality of whats going on with a big percent of these folks busting a gut to get to Aust. I saw one chappie interviewed in quarantine in Darwin and he could hardly speak English. All his family were still in India. His 3 children still there , ( all born there so tells you how long he has been living there ). So worried about them because of the medical facilities there ( As you would be if you couldnt manage to get them here ). But he didnt mind leaving them there when he could get his bum on a plane to the promised land.
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animals before people.
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Shrunk in the Wash
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See AA, we actually agree
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fee
Champion Joined: 17 Oct 2020 Status: Offline Points: 785 |
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No doubt you have done extensive research. How many of the 37,000 are travellers, working overseas, on business, visiting family or the despised others ? Looking forward to seeing the results of you research What a terrible thing, people want to return to somewhere that is safe I believe you have travelled extensively and worked overseas, no doubt you would be happy to stay over there and would not return if you were offered the chance |
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acacia alba
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Talking to the wrong head here, asking for facts and figures. You are smart enough to look that up yourself I think ? Depends where I was, as to coming home. But at least it is " home " for me. I dont blame Aussies if they want to come home. Why didnt they come home when the covid struck . Not like we didnt get warnings. I see one Aust family stuck in the US chose to take their holiday and fly there after covid became official, because they didnt want to miss their holiday or do their money. Now they are bitching they cant get home.
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animals before people.
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max manewer
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I imagine a lot of people may have had work contracts they could not get out of, but also some people may have been too cavalier, and failed to foresee that re-entry might get difficult.
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Passing Through
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Reported yesterday were 5,030 test results, 0 new cases, 0 active cases. Sadly, we have to report today that a previously cleared COVID-19 case has died from complications relating to their original diagnosis. |
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acacia alba
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Food for thought.
Everyone knows it's nobody's business!? We’ve finally worked out the story of the hotel quarantine bungle in Victoria. There were four people responsible named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody. There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have. I'm glad I cleared that up for you. |
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animals before people.
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furious
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PT as that case was over Covid does it go in the figures or not. I guess there will a few of those.
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Passing Through
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I dont think they are sure furious. The 70yo lady had COVID in June and had ''recovered'' by the health dept. standard, but is what I think they call ''long haulers'' in America. The disease never fully left her and returned to kill her months later possibly attached to another illness that weakened her.
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Passing Through
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And yes, there will be millions of these shortening people's lives.
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Carioca
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Norway destroyed 17 million mink that were riddled with this virus , now Milwaukee in the state of Wisconsin this virus has hit the mink breeders there , it jumps from animal to human so industry is finished , never ending .
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Passing Through
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That mink strain has also been in Australia in ferrets in Melbourne carioca. They are using the ferret virus to develop animal vaccines.
I think it was Spain that also culled a heap of mink. They are starting to think the massive culls are a bit of an over reaction now.
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furious
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Our industry is very lucky that horses don't seem to be affected. I know dogs and cats can catch it. When my daughter had her second test she looked the dog out of the room for the days until the all clear. I've never seen an unhappier or more confused dog - but her owner wasn't risking her. She heard they had put down infected dogs in the USA.
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Carioca
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I think norways destroyed the lot PT , that's a lot of fur coats , may have to drop down to rabbit.
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furious
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And the fact that it jumps from animal to human does kind of make the wet markets a likely source of the disease. Just wish the world could of reacted sooner to stop what is happening overseas today.
And in response to Shrunk in the Wash. There were many mistakes made here also. And yes we were lucky to come around. But if once the mistake had occurred the people had decided to ignore the rules we would be just as bad as most of the rest of the world. They didn't. Our young people did the best they could to follow the rules so they should be proud of todays freedoms. They are responsible for keeping it out of the general population and elderly homes - because as someone above pointed out. If you over 60 well its a given that we have been very careful this year.
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Passing Through
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Yes they have carioca, they are concerned the industry will never recover.
The major issue with these minks is that they are farmed so living in huge colonies where a virus can quickly mutate into a variant that they may not be able to control. Bats are the same living in huge colonies living on top of each other and are considered a leading cause of zoonotic transmissions.
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Passing Through
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Jumping from animal to human or from human to animal is not uncommon, jumping from animal to human and then to another human is the problem and what happened in China.
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acacia alba
Champion Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Hunter Valley Status: Offline Points: 41483 |
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Oh YUK, did you see those wet markets on 60 mins last night ? Gross. And these blokes want to be world leaders ?
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animals before people.
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Passing Through
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Too late AA, they already are.
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Isaac soloman
Champion Joined: 13 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6085 |
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try hards pt.
Like shovelling sh*t uphill for china.
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Passing Through
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Did someone say China?
Isaac appears from nowhere
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fee
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