Coronavirus

Doesn't matter how many ICU doctors and nurses I see saying that flu and Covid-19 are not even close ... I know better.

Where did that 4000 number come from?

The Doherty Institute modelling, which forms the basis of national cabinet’s four-stage reopening plan, suggests that if Australia opens up at 80% with partial public health measures such as contact tracing and quarantine, there would be 761 deaths nationally over first six months after reopening, compared to 1,457 deaths at 70%.

We didn't have COVID in 2019, the Chinese hadn't ''invented'' it yet. 

TJMitchell wrote: Redemption wrote: Vaccines are safe and effective. mRNA, invented by the brilliant Christian lady, Katalin Kariko. When you take it, you have the magnificence of a Hungarian inventor inside you. Saving billions of peoples lives. Be sure to get your 2 shots. And a booster if required. Just got my first one yesterday thanks Red . Second booked for 29th October. Strange thing happened though, there was this dude in a black suit following me around the supermarket afterwards with what looked like a barcode scanner. Very odd and I'm almost certain I heard a 'beep' as he passed me.

Creeping Jesus maybe 

Doesn't matter who's right or wrong . We have debated and saw the brains of medicine really divided , so what hope we mere mortals .

   HISTORY SAYS another 12 months of sliding reductions and Santa will bring us another strain , or The Spanish Flu. Read the following , without bias.. Because Covid will do the same .
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An unthinkable 50 to 100 million people worldwide died from the 1918-1919 flu pandemic commonly known as the “Spanish Flu.” It was the deadliest global pandemic since the Black Death, In the United States, the 1918 flu pandemic lowered the average life expectancy by 12 years.

What’s even more remarkable about the 1918 flu, say infectious disease experts, is that it never really went away. After infecting an estimated 500 million people worldwide in 1918 and 1919 (a third of the global population), the H1N1 strain that caused the Spanish flu receded into the background and stuck around as the regular seasonal flu. Is still killing more than covid in some areas.
But every so often, direct descendants of the 1918 flu combined with bird flu or swine flu to create powerful new pandemic strains, which is exactly what happened in 1957, 1968 and 2009. Those later flu outbreaks, all created in part by the 1918 virus, claimed millions of additional lives, earning the 1918 flu the odious title of “the mother of all pandemics.”

We haven't finished counting with this one yet and with places like India and Africa estimated to be undercounted by up to ten times, this should climb up the ladder a bit.

jujuno wrote:  Macca...I think your death rates are out of date.

Yes JJ... I've been busy ...    Miles out and I will get the updated soon.

On a quick look the overall picture is sad of course but on the blunt numbers ....     GET BACK TO WORK ....
I have fears ... Qld must get it and I'm around Hospital areas and Nurses ... at home too. at 87 , I would be 4/6 with Tom.    I'm not really laughing JJ . I'm bluddy sore.

I hope you do maxie.

The figures for the over 70's do not look good .

Few infected by comparison but the losses are there ... 5402 infected ,
845 deaths which equates to 15 .6 % died . About 1 in 6. over 70

The highest infected age group is the 20 to 30 group . Where near 17000 positives saw 5 die 0r 0.2 %   of that group.

Hardly reason to lock them up.
Isolate everyone over 70 and send the rest on their way.

Is Betadine about to become the new Ivermectin?

Hopefully no-one will bet a dime on that.

You have it the wrong way round Tlaz! The unders can work on the 'survival of the fittest' or 'natural selection' theories Overs have already passed the tests

Tucker covers the big issues.