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Shrunk in the Wash
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Who would have thunk it |
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furious
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Look at the offical covid site for world wide reports and sweden for one isn't reporting deaths or cases anymore. But that doesn't mean they aren't having them they just stopped reporting. Also lots of countries only reported hospital deaths.
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oneonesit
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What's the old saying - "I'm alright Jack"
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Refer ALP Election Promises
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jujuno
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over-population is the world's biggest problem...
no-one will eventually be "all right, Jack" if it isn't evened out. Wars, natural disasters, viruses...if we don't have them, following generations will have to deal with the consequences... of course, those who worship capitalism, love more people being born than dying... |
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Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
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Baghdad Bob
Champion Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 13695 |
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Is it just me, but do Brad Hazzard (NSW ) , Martin Foley ( VIC ) and Steven Marshall (SA), all of whom appear on daily press conferences in their respective states, do not engender me with much confidence in what they have to say, as their appearance and their manner of presentation does not come across as convincing.
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TJMitchell
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Macron with a big fvck you to the anti vaxxers
In France, those who do not get vaccinated will no longer be able to go to restaurants, cafes (from the beginning of August), cinemas and museums (from July 21) and get on airplanes or trains (again from August). Alternatively, you will have to submit a negative test, which will no longer be free (49 euros for the PCR, 29 for the antigen). Macron then announced the vaccination obligation for medical personnel and for those who work in contact with fragile people. Since September 15, a nurse who has refused to be vaccinated will no longer be able to go to work and receive a salary.
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Time is a flat circle
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Passing Through
Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
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Not as brutal as Boris. Asked if he was opening up too early he said everyone who wants a vaccine has had time to get one.
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maccamax
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Crazy , Isn't Macron the bloke who married his Grandmother or am I mistaken .
Good old Boris , the more the merrier with Covid . Quickest way to get the immune systems to handle it . That's how it is done . |
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Shrunk in the Wash
Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 9890 |
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So when he forces people to have the vaccine it will unleash the dogs of hell, the lawyers. Someone dies or suffers from the vaccine, sue hi pathetic arse
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TJMitchell
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Dangerous waters for sure
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Time is a flat circle
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Indeed TJ, indeed
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stayer
Champion Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Status: Offline Points: 21914 |
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ExceedAndExcel
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Don’t see anything in there that suggests people will be forced to take the vaccine.
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acacia alba
Champion Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: Hunter Valley Status: Offline Points: 41536 |
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No one forced to have it. Just if you choose not to you will have to stay away from other people and be ostracised. Unless you have a very valid reason not to be vacced. And I would think, once those who choose to have it, and the population are fully vacced, and can bust out, well, the others can take their chances.
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animals before people.
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ExceedAndExcel
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Exactly. Not forced at all. No different to daycares not allowing unvaccinated children to attend their centres.
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acacia alba
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Yep. Its your choice. But those who do the right thing arnt going to cop the stuff dished out by the fruit loop anti vaxxers. Those who think covid is a hoax can live, and die, by their choice.
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animals before people.
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stayer
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It's different because the french aren't "anti vaxxers", they are just cautious about new vaccines, have lost trust in the government from past experiences, and a lot of them see Macron as a wannabe King, which puts French people off. Eg https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/03/france-vaccine-hesitancy-astra-zeneca/618316/ |
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ExceedAndExcel
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Not different at all. And the reason for people not taking it is irrelevant. No one is being forced to get vaccinated, desire the hysterics of a few posts above.
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ExceedAndExcel
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*despite
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Afros
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Any evidence to back up either claim Maxxie? Or is this another of your almost BROOKE like tangents that make a lot of noise but with no substance.
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Tlazolteotl
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Fair enough but when will we be able to say that in Australia? 2024?
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
Simon Cameron |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Disagree as many lawyers do as well. Time will tell The old macaroon will crumble
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Tlazolteotl
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So they've done a big scare campaign about AZ around the world despite the astronomical odds of serious side effects but Australia and the world needs AZ. Well done.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
Simon Cameron |
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Tlazolteotl
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France has a sane system of justice unlike the US or Australia. There is zero chance of a French higher court overturning a vaccinated only entry rule.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
Simon Cameron |
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Tlazolteotl
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PARIS (AP) — Over 100,000 people protested across France on Saturday against the government’s latest measures to push people to get vaccinated and curb rising infections by the delta variant of the coronavirus. In Paris, separate protest marches by the far-right and the far-left wound through different parts of the city. Demonstrations were also held in Strasbourg in the east, Lille in the north, Montpellier in the south and elsewhere. Thousands of people answered calls to take to the streets by Florian Philippot, a fringe far-right politician and former right hand of Marine Le Pen who announced earlier this month that he would run in the 2022 presidential election. Gathered a stone’s throw away from the Louvre Museum, protesters chanted “Macron, clear off!”, “Freedom,” and banged metal spoons on saucepans. While Philippot has organized small but regular protests against the government’s handling of the coronavirus crisis, Saturday’s demonstration drew a larger and more diverse crowd of people broadly disaffected with politics: yellow vest activists angry over perceived economic injustice, far-right supporters, medical staff and royalists. https://apnews.com/article/europe-business-health-government-and-politics-france-d25494f4cf4ca6c6d1464188a89ece6f?utm_source=morning_brew |
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
Simon Cameron |
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ExceedAndExcel
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Can you point out where any of that says that someone MUST get the vaccine?
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stayer
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Well if they pass a law saying you can't participate in a large swathe of everyday activities without being vaccinated, it amounts to forcing. Also I was just pointing out that French people have their own reasons for being cautious about vaccines and/ or being told how to live by their government. By the way, if you look at surveys about "vaccine hesitancy" around the world you'll find very few "anti-vax" extreme views - it's mainly worry about side effects or the short time taken in clinical trials. Fair enough. |
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ExceedAndExcel
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I’m not debating people’s reasons for not getting vaccinated. Hence why I already said that is irrelevant to the discussion. Nothing in there is forcing anyone to get vaccinated. They still have the choice. Like any choice in life it comes with consequences. You weigh up those consequences when you decide which course of action you are going to take. This is no difference. People who are hesitant to get the vaccine will weigh up the pluses and minuses and the CHOOSE whether or not to get it. They will not be forced.
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stayer
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Just like a schoolkid can choose to his homework or to be kept in at lunchtime. His "choice."
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ExceedAndExcel
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And just to note, none of those activities mentioned are essential to going about life. You do not need to dine out or travel across the country or go to entertainment venues to be able to function in life. Those are all discretionary activities.
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