|
The Greens |
Post Reply 
|
Page <1 89101112 55> |
| Author | ||
Passing Through 
Champion 
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
 Post Options
 Thanks(0)
 Quote Reply
 Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 8:34am |
|
|
Bandt doesn't have to do or say anything at the moment. Just sit back and enjoy the sh*tshow that is the imploding Coalition. You dont do anything to distract from your opponents blowing themselves up....basic rule.
|
||
|
|
||
 |
||
|
Baghdad Bob
Champion
Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 13695 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 10:27am |
|
|
PT, both you and myself have been wrong Adam Ant has been banging on twitter over the past few days banging on about a" Green New Deal"....
If we are going to beat the climate crisis, transform our
economy and look after people along the way, we’re going to need everyone to
buy in. That includes business. That’s
why, today, I’ve written to business leaders to introduce them to our plan for
a Green New Deal and invite them to be involved. Done right, the transformation
means more jobs and prosperity for all Take a
look and help spread the word: Here's
my promise to you: Over the
coming months I will be travelling across the country meeting people in town
halls, community centres and kitchen tables, to talk how a Green New Deal can
provide the hope and the action we need to solve the climate crisis. |
||
|
||
|
Passing Through
Champion
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 10:39am |
|
|
Green New Deal is not so new Bob, it has been policy of the progressive left in America, led by Bernie, AOC and others for over a year. The earlier Democratic debates featured it, but as it hadn't been accurately defined it dropped off a bit. Greens here started using the term last year.
It is basically just the transitioning to a green clean renewable economy, something all govts will be taking on in some form eventually.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
maccamax
Champion
Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 16 Feb 2020 at 4:25pm |
|
Give TBV a dose of it , Business is so slow . 5---10 hours between posts. Shows there is a price to pay , when a couple of carnivores / predators (whatever) are on the loose, unchecked , over long periods. |
||
|
||
|
Dr E
Champion
Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 28563 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 16 Feb 2020 at 10:03pm |
|
|
The Old Green New Deal is such a winner for the Dems - I'm certain it will help the Labor/Greens Collusion just as much ...
 |
||
|
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
|
||
|
||
|
Passing Through
Champion
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 5:52am |
|
|
As soon as coal is electoral poison the Lieberals will steal the Green New Deal off the Greens and claim it as their economic revolution.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Passing Through
Champion
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 9:13am |
|
|
Hey Bob, this from Bandt's recent Green New Deal interview that I presume you are referencing. Seems he thinks he is comfortable being one of your mob.  It’s a difficult balance to strike for any Greens leader. On the one
hand, Labor offers a potential future at the big table, where real
decisions are made. On the other, Labor and the Greens are often
fighting each other for votes in crucial seats, particularly in
inner-city Sydney and Melbourne. On this last point, Bandt is adamant:
No party ‘owns’ anyone’s vote, and every party should have to fight for
it. He says he’s not afraid to take votes off the Labor party, even if
the possible consequence of that is more Coalition government.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Tlazolteotl
Champion
Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31448 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 9:47am |
|
I see they haven't learned anything.  the best is the enemy of the good Should be the motto of the Greens.
|
||
|
An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
Simon Cameron |
||
|
||
|
maccamax
Champion
Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 9:49am |
|
|
Greens have made that colour , unpopular
Lets face the unfairness of life in general It's a tough road if your not as Pretty/Handsome as the opponent. Sarah wins in a canter , straight from a casting couch. I move we put the African gang members into Green Seat, Public housing. |
||
|
||
|
Baghdad Bob
Champion
Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 13695 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 4:50pm |
|
|
I see Adam Bandt, the leader of the Greens, is proposing the federal government spend an extra $300 billion, on top of the $230 billion the government has already committed to welfare, to "get the economy moving. "
He proposes this extra money be spent on "free stuff " from free tertiary education, free childcare, free 500,000 homes for public housing on top of his policy for Australia to be 100% reliable on renewable energy by 2030. His package promises a guaranteed job for everyone and a permanent doubling of the dole. To create all these billions he proposes massive tax increases for business and for individuals dressed up as "taxing the rich ". I do not know where he is going to find these "rich" because with a recession, if not a depression on the horizon, I doubt there will be too many "rich" around to pick up the tab. The only other countries where these Utopian policies were ever promised in recent times were USSR, Zimbabwe and Venezuela and we all know how they finished up. How this bloke is ever given any air time, even on the ABC, astounds me, he and and his party is like a watermelon, Green on the outside but Red in the centre, |
||
|
||
|
Second Chance
Champion
Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45811 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 5:01pm |
|
|
You make a very good case regarding the Greens Bob.
   
|
||
|
||
|
Baguette
Champion
Joined: 18 Dec 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3651 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 5:23pm |
|
|
The only good thing about the greens is that they unite coalition and labor voters as nothing else can. Everybody hates them!
|
||
|
||
|
Passing Through
Champion
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 5:30pm |
|
|
I agree with you Bob, $300 billion might not be enough but they are on the right track.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Baghdad Bob
Champion
Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 13695 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 5:50pm |
|
Where does any government get that money, print it or tax the rich, if there are any left after the recession ? Utopia is only in the eyes of the economically ignorant, of which captain Bandt and his hopeless crew are lead by first mate Sarah Hanson Young.
|
||
|
||
|
max manewer
Champion
Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 32947 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 5:50pm |
|
|
He can propose what he likes, Bob, but others will dispose. At least he is putting his cards on the table.
|
||
|
||
|
Passing Through
Champion
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 5:55pm |
|
|
Yes Bob, steady quantitative easing. We are a consumer economy. You have to drive demand and secure and create jobs. Dont want 1929 over again with 25% unemployment. Our economy has been too tight for decades with almost zero wages growth. Now is the opportunity to dtive it out of this ditch.
Trickle down supply side 50 year failed approach wont do it.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Second Chance
Champion
Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45811 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 6:01pm |
|
|
Sorry PT, did I miss someone pushing the totally real world discredited "trickle down effect"?
|
||
|
||
|
Passing Through
Champion
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 6:13pm |
|
|
ScoMo and Friedenberg will snap back to that default position as soon as they can.
|
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Baghdad Bob
Champion
Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 13695 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 6:43pm |
|
The flawed reasoning of the Greens: Any rational economist knows that inflation, created by quantitative easing, wipes out the real value of government debt, and that’s the Green's plan. Governments can borrow and spend and not worry about paying the bills because inflation wipes out the debt. Unfortunately, inflation also wipes out your savings, insurance, annuities, bonds, retirement income, and other fixed-income assets. The Greens don’t care about you; they care about big government spending programs. |
||
|
||
|
horlicks
Champion
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 8416 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 6:49pm |
|
|
During and after the GFC the US Fed embarked on a massive quantitative easing as did several other countries. Inflation remained low.
|
||
|
||
|
max manewer
Champion
Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 32947 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 6:53pm |
|
|
Who does care about ME, Bob ?
|
||
|
||
|
maccamax
Champion
Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 8:35pm |
|
|
I do Max .. It destroys me to see such a good man drifting to the Joe Biden disaster. . We Lost PT to a similar fate some years ago.
Not even the magic of Scamanda could save him. But we conservatives are very forgiving and we are kind to our prisoners. |
||
|
||
|
Mr Prospector
Champion
Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Status: Offline Points: 2025 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 8:36pm |
|
Your 100% right Horlicks , QE is a theoretical inflation driver that's rolled all the time .I've never seen a real world example. What peaked my interest ages ago was the Japanese 1997 crash that was particular to the Japanese economy. It was caused again by a real estate bubble I believe. The government came to the rescue and hence the Japanese economy has struggled with stagflation for the next 23 years . QE does not appear to drive inflation and may well have the opposite effect .
|
||
|
There are three types of lies - Lies ,Damn Lies and Statistics
|
||
|
||
|
maccamax
Champion
Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 8:47pm |
|
|
I'm expecting Death Duties , Inflation, 15% GST to pay most of the wasted dollars on this heavy Cold a few got. If the Medico's had been worth their salt we would have had a vaccine years ago.
|
||
|
||
|
Baghdad Bob
Champion
Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 13695 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 9:54pm |
|
We all do, the forum needs members like yourself, I could name a few others, whose contributions get themselves plenty of points , but are of little rational content, as opposed to those who do not accumulate points and provide the rational content to illustrate the opposite point of view. BTW, do those points get fly buys with Virgin or Qantas ? |
||
|
||
|
max manewer
Champion
Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 32947 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 10:02pm |
|
|
These points seem to play on your mind, Bob !
|
||
|
||
|
maccamax
Champion
Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 20 May 2020 at 10:04pm |
|
|
You know Virgins are on the way out Bob, I did see a few but they were in flight , but Qantas , tho defiant, may be in action again.
Posts get you your points , as you can see by PT getting 40000 on the President Thread. he will get plenty with two elections coming up near November. |
||
|
||
|
Passing Through
Champion
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 21 May 2020 at 7:18am |
|
From the RBA May COVID-19 meeting: Members agreed that the Bank's policy package was working broadly as expected. The package had helped to lower funding costs and stabilise financial conditions, and was supporting the economy. The package had also contributed to a significant improvement in the functioning of government bond markets, and the 3-year Australian Government bond yield was at the target of around 25 basis points. Given these developments, the Bank had scaled back the size and frequency of bond purchases. The Bank was prepared to scale up these purchases again, if necessary, to achieve the yield target and ensure bond markets remain functional. The yield target was expected to remain in place until progress was made towards the goals for full employment and inflation. In the various scenarios for the Australian economy considered by the Board, the labour market was expected to have ongoing spare capacity, and inflation was expected to be below 2 per cent over the following few years. |
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
Passing Through
Champion
Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 21 May 2020 at 7:33am |
|
|
PS Bob, Morrison says coal is dead, invest in renewables topped up by gas.
Infrastructure spending = stimulus This coming depression is too serious to muck around with your silly greedy Neo-Con agenda.
RUOK Bob? Morrison government climate action plan hot on gas, cool on coalA new wave of spending on energy projects to cut Australia's carbon emissions is on the way under a contentious federal government plan that sidelines coal but highlights gas as a key fuel for the future. Vowing to build on more than $10 billion already spent on clean energy, the Morrison government will name electric vehicles, batteries, renewables and gas as some of the key technologies it will support.... |
||
|
|
||
|
||
|
maccamax
Champion
Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 21 May 2020 at 7:42am |
|
|
That will put the cat among the pigeons. Plus lose half the seats they hold . Has to be Fake News.
|
||
|
||
Topic Options
Passing Through wrote:|
Post Reply
|
Page <1 89101112 55> |
| Tweet |
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |
Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.05
Copyright ©2001-2022 Web Wiz Ltd.
This page was generated in 8.734 seconds.
Copyright ©2001-2022 Web Wiz Ltd.
This page was generated in 8.734 seconds.