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Jamal
Champion Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8651 |
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Very sad. Fitting that Carif won the Sandown Cup today for Norzita
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45116 |
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Hopefully they can find a wet nurse for Norzita's orphan foal sired by The Autumn Sun.
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VOYAGER
Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18682 |
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Agree totally with your post Foxy. If this horse was in the Maher/Eustace stable he would not get a three month spell, they would space the races and only run in races at 2400m+. I also think the horse is better the Melbourne way of going. I still say that a tick over run in the Bagot, then another 2400m and into the Adelaide Cup, and Andrew Ramsden gives him his chance to get to the better staying races next spring. But I bet you any money in your pocket he is in the spelling paddock this week!
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Gay3
Moderator Group Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Miners Rest Status: Offline Points: 51752 |
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Don't these comments tend to bite you on the @rse at least once? Connections should thank me regardless
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Second Chance
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Has a marvelous female family which possesses both sprinting and staying influences. Can ideally see him standing in NZ provided he doesn't receive too many stout mares.
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Jamal
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Do people think he is capable of more on the track? Or has he reached his ceiling? He is a stakes winner at Listed level. Can he become a Group 1 winner?
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Jamal
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Or even a Group 2 winner?
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Afros
Champion Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15165 |
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He could snag an Adelaide, Brisbane or Sydney Cup, so yes he could win a G1 or G2.
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Second Chance
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Some may have noticed that Jamie Kah rode him far closer than have other riders. Probably something to remember re his future career.
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Jamal
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I think Jamie Kah should be Carif's permanent rider.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Shawy38
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post-race veterinary examination identified the presence of blood at one nostril. Under the provisions of AR79(8) Carif will be required to undergo a satisfactory gallop of at least 1000 metres in the presence of a Steward before racing again. |
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early4lunch
Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Status: Offline Points: 3854 |
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Gear Change,--nuts off!
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53955 |
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Believe it or not this is one horse I have said should be castrated.
Wonder why they waited till after his best win to do so ? PS, They'll kiss him up.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Second Chance
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Has he fair dinkum been gelded?
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djebel
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Apparently been booked in.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Good Old Ted
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You should go with him - might settle you down a bit.
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Afros
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Is now 2 stone lighter.
Surely they must target the Adelaide, Sydney and perhaps even the Brisbane Cup (now it has been rightfully set back to 3200m) now? Melbourne Cup is probably a bridge to far for him, so hopefully they don't waste the opportunities in the autumn by specifically aiming at the one race.
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djebel
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He was one horse I always felt might need gelding yet I still need counselling.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Afros
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He trialled on March 15th, so what is happening with him?
Not in the TAB market for the Sydney Cup, maybe they are going to Brisbane?
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Afros
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Surely they'll go to the Brisbane Cup with him now it is back at 3200m.
JRA Plate over 2000m on April 24th looks a logical next start for him, the new Gold Coast Cup over 2400m on Hollindale day next, then Premiers Cup over 2400m at Doomben and the Brisbane Cup, if he can win that they might finally have him start on the first Tuesday.
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Afros
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Nominated for the JRA Plate this weekend at Randwick.
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Jamal
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Hope Carif can run well.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Afros
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Common sense surely says he goes to the G3 Premiers Cup (2400m) at Eagle Farm on Saturday week en route to the Brisbane Cup, however they're just as likely to go to the Listed Lord Mayors Cup (2000m) at Rosehill this coming Saturday and then ponder where he should go next.
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Lord Hybrow
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You’d think the Snowden’s would be smart enough to finally realise that his peak performances are all 2400m+.
So yes, the Premiers Cup at 2400m clearly stands out as the perfect stepping stone to the 3200m of the Brisbane Cup next month.
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Jamal
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Isn't the G3 Premier's Cup at 2200m? Maybe it got a distance increase to 2400m?
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Shawy38
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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing
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Jamal
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Ok, no worries thanks for the clarification Shawy. The race must of got a distance increase starting this year. Some handy horses have won the Premier's Cup in recent times: Real Love - 2016, Precedence - 2013. The race has only been in existence since 2006.
Cheers, Jamal.
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Afros
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The distance change was actually meant to come in for last seasons renewal before the covid forced reshuffle of the Brisbane carnival, obviously as part of the Brisbane Cup going back to the traditional distance, the Gold Coast Cup over 2400m was also created on May 8, hopefully in time that'll create a progression for stayers from the Sydney carnival via those two races to the Brisbane Cup, who knows, it may even see the Brisbane Cup return to Group 1 level in time.
Talk is they want to get the Qld Sires back to G1 level, and no doubt the big push is also on for the PJ O'Shea with the name change and purse rise but I'm sure they wouldn't mind the Brisbane Cup going back up as well.
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Gay3
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The tit for tatting between kavg, Jamal & Afros adds nothing to thread interest, rather, it detracts from it, so continue & more will be hidden
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Shawy38
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the horse threw it a way today.
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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing
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