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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 6:48am |
Interesting point
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 9:32am |
Pardon_My_Dust wrote:
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Send him to Gai! She'll make a real man of him. |
Not one to blow my own trumpet but hey you heard it here first. |
Listening to Alan this morning, Gai had little to nothing to do with his preparation, saying to Adrian "This is your baby, you deal with it" & Alan said he's been incredible to work with right thru'
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 12:38pm |
I would suggest Gai having an input in Adrian's education though Gay3 .
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 1:02pm |
Alligator Blood Melbourne Bound to Dodge NSW BanStradbroke Handicap hero Alligator Blood will head to Victoria to
target early races in the Melbourne spring carnival following his famous
win at Eagle Farm on Saturday. Few Stradbrokes have stirred
emotions like Alligator Blood’s did and co-trainer Adrian Bott says it
was one of the most satisfying of his career after bringing the horse
back from racing oblivion. With Racing New South Wales banning
the horse due to part owner Allan Endresz’s undischarged bankruptcy
status, Bott – who trains in partnership with the legendary Gai
Waterhouse – was forced to train the horse out of Queensland remotely. Few
could have predicted the incredible return and Bott says they plan on
giving the five-year-old a brief freshen up before sending him south to
aim up in Victoria, where he grabbed his first Group 1 in the Australian
Guineas in 2020 when trained by David Vandyke. “There are no
more races in Queensland for him so we will naturally look to
Melbourne,” Bott told News Corp from London following the win. “He will probably go for a freshen up now and probably target some of those early races in the Melbourne carnival as well. “We
had a few little plans in our mind about what we could potentially do
before Saturday but we wanted to see him do that first and come back at
our level. “He has proven that is where he should be aimed and where he should be racing so it is time to take advantage of it.” After
training the horse remotely through Sunshine Coast trainer Billy
Healey, Bott said a lot of work went into getting the crowd favourite
back to the races. “There are a lot of staff that have gone into getting this horse to
the races, even Billy Healey has played a big part in working with the
team, we have had to mix and match the preparation,” he said. “By
the time he came up to Queensland, he had a pretty good foundation and
he was pretty fit. It helped going up there knowing to a point where the
horse was at. “We have sent staff interstate to be with him for
quite a long time now but it helped we had horses going up early for the
carnival. “We sent a team up to the Sunshine Coast with Billy
Healey and then once the carnival was in full swing we moved everything
down to Eagle Farm.” Bott believes 1400m to 1600m will best suit
Alligator Blood in the spring, with his Group 1 Australian Guineas
victory coming over 1600m at Flemington. Even with it marking
her 150th Group 1 victory, Waterhouse was quick to praise Bott’s work
with the horse, saying it had been his project since it arrived in the
stables. “It is very satisfying on a few different levels getting the horse back to winning at that level,” Bott said. “I
followed the horse early in his career and he had a big following so it
was good to be able to bring joy to a lot of people in that regard, and
then there is the added emotional layer with Allan and his family, and
what his wife Joy is going through. “It made it all the fitting and special. There were a lot of layers to that win.”
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 1:11pm |
Nice to see half the partnership was in London ( lucky him ) enjoy Royal Ascot Adrian.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 1:19pm |
Another article says she's in London too.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 1:23pm |
She might have been half a world away in London, but racing's first lady
Gai Waterhouse has hailed Alligator Blood's emotional comeback
Stradbroke Handicap win as one of her finest moments in the sport.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 4:13pm |
I saw her over there , and heard they were letting Robbie field at Ascot ??
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 6:22pm |
I thought that race was all she was hanging on for & finally she's pain free.
Owner's wife dies 24 hours after emotion-charged Stradbroke win The terminally ill wife of
Alligator Blood's colourful owner Allan Endresz has passed away after a
brave battle against bowel cancer. Joy Endresz passed away
surrounded by family at their Albury home on Sunday, less than 24 hours
after Alligator Blood's stirring Group 1 Stradbroke Handicap victory at
Eagle Farm. Endresz had endured a long-term battle against the
cancer, but bravely fought on, with the family often using Alligator
Blood as a reason to bring people together in her final years. Incredibly,
Joy was given just days to live after Alligator Blood's return to
racing two weeks ago in the BRC Sprint, but held on to watch his now
famous Stradbroke Handicap victory on Saturday. "It
is with immense sadness and heavy heart that I announce the passing
today of my beautiful and courageous wife, Joy," Endresz said. Never
give up! No matter what. Never ever give up. Alligator Blood was
running his heart out today for my wife, Joy. Joy only has a few days to
live after fighting cancer for over 2 1/2 years. Joy and our grandson,
Hunter, wished AB a safe and strong run. ❤️❤️❤️❤️???????????? pic.twitter.com/G6bOr0JHZ0 — Allan Endresz (@EndreszAllan) May 28, 2022 "Our family is devastated but seek solace in the knowledge that Joy is now pain free and taking her rightful place in heaven. "Our love for Joy holds no bounds." It
came following the most bittersweet moment in Stradbroke Handicap
history on Saturday, as Endresz watched the race in bed with Joy,
cradling her in her final moments to watch their horse win Queensland's
greatest race. "It was a bittersweet moment, I just watched it with Joy on my little phone in our bedroom," a tearful Endresz told News Corp. "Joy couldn't even see the race. She isn't aware our horse has won. "I
just think Alligator Blood sprouted wings, this is like that Frank
Sinatra song, Fly Me To The Moon. It will never be forgotten." Star trainer Gai Waterhouse had vowed to win the race, her 150th career Group 1, as a tribute to Endresz, and she got her wish. Alligator
Blood is an old poker term, used to describe someone who never gives up
and plays fearlessly with their backs to the wall. Endresz has often spoken about Joy's "never give up" spirit, which is also embodied in his horse.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 10:43pm |
Certainly feel for any person and family going thru this . My Dad had bowel cancer, among other things.
And cheered for Alligator Blood as he deserved it. But still think Endrez is dicey and a bit over the top with his stories .
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Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 9:38am |
‘I’m Bankrupt Because I Want To Be’ – EndreszOwner Allan Endresz is adamant his ongoing bankruptcy battle is a non issue and should have no bearing on where Alligator Blood can and can’t run.
Endresz, whose Ezybonds No 1 syndicate manages the dual Group 1 winner, could see his horses barred from stepping out in Victoria after the state regulator didn’t rule out following Racing NSW’s lead.
Endresz said he’s ‘not going to throw the baby out of the bathwater’
and is continuing to call out Racing NSW’s ‘double standard’ when it
comes to probity checks.
“You’ve got Damion Flower sitting there in jail for cocaine distribution and he still has horses running around,” Endresz told Racing Pulse.
ICYMI ALLIGATOR BLOOD storms to victory and claims Group 1 glory in the 2022 Stradbroke Handicap #QLDisRacing pic.twitter.com/OoHVYBSVBC
— RaceQ (@RaceQLD) June 11, 2022
While Racing NSW is unwilling to budge at this stage Racing Victoria have apparently been ‘more open’ to Endresz’ personal circumstances (voluntary bankruptcy) in preliminary discussions.
Endresz labelled Racing NSW’s decision to impose restrictions on undischarged bankrupts as the ‘Alligator Blood rule’ despite it being designed to ‘protect trainers and co owners from resulting non payment of training fees’.
“I’m bankrupt because I want to be,” Endresz said. “I could get out
of bankruptcy this afternoon in an hour but I don’t want to do that
because I’ve spent 23 years fighting on principal for 1393 shareholders
and a $4.3 billion claim.
“As a group we’ve probably got 30 odd plus horses and bills have
always been paid on time, and we’ve had nothing untoward in that respect
in terms of probity.”
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Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 11:53am |
Google him, a public servant was sentenced to 7 1/2 years for remitting over $7M to a company Endresz controlled almost 20 years ago. There was no paperwork sufficient to lay charges against him, he has not repaid one cent of this money. He counter sued on the basis he was not permitted to sell “bonds” to mugs, which was basically a lottery that distributed 50% of proceeds.
BUT, he hasn’t abducted and imprisoned any of his daughters.
This industry has a very low bar……
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Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 2:39pm |
The guy is a total grub,litigation freak.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 5:25pm |
But not before Adrian has been repeatedly shown how to tie them up over many years.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 5:45pm |
From her interviews, they need each other equally & she's no spring chicken so who else is she grooming for a future partnership? No doubt time as always, will tell.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 5:51pm |
At this very moment in time imho Gai's forgotten more than he knows eventually he'll get the oar to row the boat , been " blooded " pretty good .
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Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 6:35pm |
Don't care much for Endrez, but he makes a fair point about Damian Flower
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Posted: 23 Jun 2022 at 8:43pm |
Geeesh. Endrez. Flower. Pot Kettle .
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RACENET EXCLUSIVE: Alligator Blood banned from Victorian spring carnival Alligator Blood winning the Stradbroke Handicap. Picture: Grant Peters–Trackside Photography Headline horse Alligator Blood has been sensationally banned from racing in the Victorian spring carnival. In a bombshell development, News Corp can exclusively reveal the two-time Group 1 winner has been barred by Victorian integrity officials. Victoria has followed the NSW lead in banning Alligator Blood from racing, due to owner Allan Endresz’s undischarged bankruptcy status. “In relation to horses where you hold a majority interest: Stewards will not allow any horse in which you hold a majority share to race in Victoria until: (a) you annul your bankruptcy; and (b) resolve the ownership ascertainment issue to the Stewards’ reasonable satisfaction,” a letter from RV deputy chief steward Rob Montgomery to Endresz reads. “For the avoidance of doubt, the prohibition outlined in this section 2 includes the following horses: Alligator Blood and American Pioneer.” Horses in which Endresz owns a minority interest may be allowed to race in Victoria, subject to stewards’ discretion. Endresz has told News Corp he is considering his legal position in relation to the matter. Alligator Blood, trained by Gai Waterhouse and Adrian Bott, was set to be a huge Victorian spring carnival drawcard. He secured a famous and emotional win in the Stradbroke, giving Waterhouse her first Stradbroke win and her 150th Group 1 triumph. Endresz’s wife – terminally ill Joy – was on death’s door when Alligator Blood won the Stradbroke and she passed away the following day but not before waking up and asking if the horse had won. EARLIER STORY: Still with no answer on whether Alligator Blood will be allowed to compete in the Victorian spring carnival, owner Allan Endresz has nominated the star horse for the Japan Cup. Incredibly, Racing Victoria is still yet to make a decision on whether they will follow the NSW lead and bar the two-time Group 1 winner from racing in the spring. NSW banned Alligator Blood from racing, due to Endresz's undischarged bankruptcy status. With spring plans still up in the air, Endresz has revealed connections have nominated the Gai Waterhouse and Adrian Bott-trained explosive Stradbroke Handicap winner for the Japan Cup in November. News Corp has sighted a letter from Japanese racing officials over the matter. “We recognise that Alligator Blood is one of the great horses in Australia,” a representative from the Japan Racing Association writes to Endresz. “The nomination for the Japan Cup will close on 4 October. The JRA Selection Committee will be held as soon as possible after closing. “We wish Alligator Blood continued success at the spring carnival" As Victorian integrity officials continue to weigh up Alligator Blood’s spring fate, Endresz said there was one eye on Japan. It is a bold and unorthodox move to even consider as the Japan Cup is run over 2400m and Alligator Blood has never stretched out beyond 1600m. The TAB fixed odds market currently has Alligator Blood as a $26 chance in the Cox Plate. “I’ve had no news at all from Racing Victoria,” Endresz said. “We’ve nominated Alligator Blood for the Japan Cup. “They said they were setting Better Loosen Up a task when he won the Japan Cup (in 1990) and this horse (Alligator Blood) has already proved the doubters wrong.” Alligator Blood headed north from NSW to race in the Queensland winter carnival after Racing Queensland did not follow the NSW decision to ban Endresz-owned horses from racing. He secured a famous and emotional win in the Stradbroke, giving Waterhouse her first Stradbroke win and her 150th Group 1 triumph. Endresz’s wife – terminally ill Joy – was on death's door when Alligator Blood won the Stradbroke and she passed away the following day but not before waking up and asking if the horse had won. If Alligator Blood was banned from racing in Victoria it would leave the headline horse in no man's land, unable to race in either of Australia's biggest racing states. News Corp has asked Racing Victoria several times whether there has been any decision regarding Alligator Blood’s spring status. Alligator Blood is set to have a trial at Cranbourne next Tuesday.
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Posted: 04 Aug 2022 at 1:06pm |
Owners sh*thousery F's himself over
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Posted: 04 Aug 2022 at 2:29pm |
Well now that he's been banned in Vic the Warrnambool Grand Annual Steeplechase is suddenly out of the question, a pity now they've discovered he's a stayer in the making: "Owner Allan Endresz has nominated the star horse for the Japan Cup".
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Meanwhile hold your daughter prisoner and you are welcome with open arms.
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A questionable analogy one would have thought. The bloke you're referring to has not breached the Rules of Racing nor is the VRC in the business of international moralizing. Next thing you'll want Chinese interests banned because they've accumulated wealth courtesy of an authoritarian regime.
“Alligator Blood has been banned from racing in Victoria after the Stewards found owner Allan Endresz breached AR36A(2)(c) which states that a person is not permitted to hold an ownership or lease interest in a horse if the person is an undischarged bankrupt,” he said on Twitter. “It’s also been found Endresz has not complied with AR36B, which states that an ownership or lease interest in a horse is not permitted to be held in a trust where the persons having an interest in the horse, beneficial or otherwise, are not readily and accurately identifiable".
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Endresz's bid to allow Blood to race
Allan Endresz will meet with his lawyers on Friday as
he searches for a way for his star Alligator Blood to race in Victoria
this spring. It
comes after Racing Victoria announced on Thursday that horses Endresz
has a majority share – namely G1-winner Alligator Blood – could not race
in Victoria due to his status as an undischarged bankrupt. Horses Endresz has a minority share in that are trained in Victoria will be allowed to continue racing. The
ban throws Alligator Blood’s spring plans into chaos, with the Gai
Waterhouse and Adrian Bott-trained galloper due to have a jump out at
Cranbourne on Tuesday. He was likely to resume in the Memsie Stakes at the end of August with his grand final coming in the Cox Plate. Endresz said he would weigh up his legal options with his team, but was hopeful of seeing Alligator Blood run this spring. “I
can transfer 20 per cent (of my share) to Jeff and Robyn, who have been
in the syndicate for eight years. They’ve never had blemish,” Endresz
said. “They’ve already got 40 per cent of the horse. “So we
will put something sensible together with my legal team in the morning
that says, that’s what we want to do and transfer (the ownership). We
want a quick response in regards to that. “So we’ve got a team
legal meeting tomorrow and we will put to Racing Victoria the sensible
approach which is to accept the transfer of interest to Jeff and Robyn,
let the horse run and do his program. “That’s the easy road. The
hard road is you poke the bear. We will seek injunctions, we will seek
overturning the decision. We will challenge the rule itself.” RV stewards announced on Thursday that Endresz had not complied with two rules of racing. - AR36A(2)(c)
which states that a person is not permitted to hold an ownership or
lease interest in a horse if the person is an undischarged bankrupt or
is taking advantage of the laws in force for the time being relating to
bankruptcy; and
- AR36B which states that an ownership or
lease interest in a horse is not permitted to be held in a trust where
the persons having an interest in the horse, beneficial or otherwise,
are not readily and accurately identifiable.
Alligator Blood is also banned from racing in New South Wales due to Endresz’s bankruptcy status. He has been allowed to race in Queensland and won the Group 1 Stradbroke Handicap during their winter carnival.
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Posted: 04 Aug 2022 at 5:53pm |
Poor horse Hope the Japanese decline.
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Yep, a gelding, will be raced into the ground
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