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All the info can be found here for those genuinely interested & with time to spare! Dates back to March 2020


https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2021-rv/the-sport/2021-07-13-interstate-travel-industry-notice---updated-12-july-2021.pdf?la=en  copy/paste
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Excuse me Enable Me - my wallet fiasco was only one year ago - almost to the day. And I'm still not over it LOL

Now allow me too suggest you may be a touch too close to your precious industry to offer balanced opinion. I mean you probably go around thinking the game is put on for the welfare of horses , trainers & jockeys - & not desperate, addicted punters doing their arse LOL. To be fair to you & others on here it was a bit ambitious on a racing site to expect any different. Fact is if it was up to the general community to decide on the future of the racing game it would most likely already be a part history - & that's before all the dodgy Covid sidestepping came into it .Even from a punting perspective racing is yesterdays game. Sport , Casinos, Pokies & on-line stuff absolutely towers over it re turnover / interest. However I digress.
The classic for me was when they relocated the Randwick races to Rosehill  when the whole Eastern Suburbs was put into strict lockdown at the start of this latest Delta explosion up here. Average joe citizens locked up while racing participants who have been mingling in the local areas around Randwick taking the bug right across Sydney to Rosehill. Probably helped start the spread into Western Sydney truth be known. What a lot of cobblers saying the racing industry is Covid free. Based on what sort of testing regime ?

Anyhow Enable Me you keep believing that the Racing participants are above all other industries in the transmission of Covid LOL Go & stand outside a Construction site & tell that to the workers stopped from eaning a living.


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Almost every store I've entered during numerous lockdowns has included staff or customers that aren't wearing their mask properly or at all. I'm not surprised 1-1 is carrying on like a brainless "freedom protester". It's pretty much his standard. This is the guy who's still looking for his wallet lost on a beach ten years ago. 

Racing and livestock industries are well versed in quarantine and safety precautions. It's essential the industry continues to operate for the well being of the animals involved. The human participants are well aware of what they need to do to ensure this. Equine flu never reached Victoria either ;-)

Morons at football clubs are only well versed in being self concerned bath plugs. Why they have been allowed to play is a joke, let alone attract large crowds. To compare football participants to those in racing is the only smoke and mirrors going on here ... and it's all in 1-1's head. I'm glad he's now "re-assured" in spite of no covid outbreak in racing, world wide, over the last 18 months. 

We can all rest easy. 
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Similar set up at Warrnambool, easier to get into a prison than a stable complex these past 18 months.
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If all of the horses in training in the country aren’t going to the races they still have to be fed , worked watered etc. They’ll still be visited by the vet and the farrier . Just the general care of the animals requires a lot of people travelling to work at the stables . The actual race meetings with no crowds and no owners mean there would be not many more people there than would be at trackwork every morning. I suppose you could turn all the racehorses out to spell ( if there are even safe spelling properties out there) but that would shut the industry down for months because you’d have to get all the horse up to race fitness again. If there are cases of Covid in the industry then yes shut it down but at the moment there’s no problem.
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Fair enough - that's re-assuring. Will leave it at that
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Apart from the fact I'm no longer a member of the industry & therefore can be as outspoken as I like, all members need to isolate for 14 days when travelling interstate, the same as for anyone else.
As a member of the gen. public now, I can't even go into the track to see friends horse work, it's like Fort Knox with a special QR code for every worker/trainer to be presented at the electronic gates. No ID no entry!
Stripping stalls regs. state there must be an empty one between each horse & social distancing is carefully observed by a dedicated official at all times.

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Well ok Gay you say you were never living in a bubble. I always thought reality dictated that - however i think many out there think you are. For my mind its never been spelt out what is being done in your Industry. lots of smoke & mirrors. So that takes me back to my original point - why does the Racing Industry see itself above other industries who have worn the full brunt of Covid restrictions. You claim NRL players deserve to be in a bubble because they travel more around the country. Really. More than jockeys , trainers , stable hands , administrators , vets ? Your industry travels around a lot more than Construction workers that's for sure. And I'd reckon at a rough guess Retail & Tourism workers would be more compliant wearing masks & Covid distancing than racing participants - esp at 4am in the morning. A much more controlled environment. I would further add that all the different social / job levels exposes your Industry in a much broader sense. Just what level of routine testing is actually carried out ? Has it been ramped up over the past 6 weeks or so with the Delta onslaught ? And to use "punting entertainment" as the main justification for this inconsistency is just cobblers. Punters are going without their Casinos & Poker machines - they can go with racing as well - no problems. 
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True Gay, but not spreading,has nought to do with any measures from racing administrators.
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I've no idea where you or anyone got the impression there's a racing bubble; of course there isn't but unlike footy teams, they're not travelling interstate every week or two nor do they have thousands attending, in fact for most of the entire period, owners haven't been allowed on course.
Since the virus started there've been several scares but as far as I'm aware, no actual cases so I'm not sure what all the fuss is about Confused

However all I ever gear is what a great job the industry is doing. So I thought they were actually doing something.

Providing some modicum of entertainment for all us poor sods stuck at home, is what they're doing & not spreading the virus whilst doing so Clap


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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

The only way a bubble might work, is if industry participants and ALL their housemates were in total lockdown.

That’s not happening 
Agree. However all I ever gear is what a great job the industry is doing. So I thought they were actually doing something
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So parrisaffair the lack of any breaches from the racing industry is just good luck based on what your saying. Either that or lack of testing .
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The only way a bubble might work, is if industry participants and ALL their housemates were in total lockdown.

That’s not happening 
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Originally posted by parisaffair parisaffair wrote:

no different to any other worker that goes home  after work
ok - are you sure about that ? I thought the industry was supposed to be in a bubble ?
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So the NRL have a couple of hundred in a so-called bubble - & they have multiple failures . Yet the racing industry has multiple thousands supposedly doing the same yet have no breaches. Something doesn’t add up to me . 
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no different to any other worker that goes home  after work
harness racing...a bit of action after dark
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Well that would be my first thought Rusty. How could any industry with that number of participants live in one big bubble ? For example - if a few stable hands drove home from the races would they stop & buy a coffee on the way ?
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It’s window dressing 
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Just a few questions - maybe I don’t understand the so called bubble in-place for the racing industry participants. Are all participants actually isolated from the general community - loved ones - friends ? Does this include all stable staff , trainers , jockeys , vets , racing administrators & the like. How often are they routinely tested ? Is this all formalised - & is so - is it policed ? 
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Not forgetting WA & Tassie have been enjoying racing on GF with no media reported backlash Smile
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One notes that only about 18% of Australians attend a Christian church on Good Friday, and less on any other day.

And that the AFL has played to bumper crowds on this day for five or six years whilst it's been going strong in the NRL for almost a decade now.


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And in other  news Victoria  to race   on good friday's  from  next year
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Whether or not they've been sufficient, businesses & workers have received such as Job Keeper to the tune of many millions. Why would you want to unnecessarily add to that? Equality? Not fair? Neither is life in general.
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And whilst a large chunk of Australia workers are stuck at home busting to go to work to earn a quid - & major cities have protest action going on - an entire Industry decides to give itself a week off. Great timing
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

There've been no reported outbreaks amongst industry members & are earning tax for the govt which in turn is spared millions more in handouts; I can only see positives, especially considering the hoops they all have to negotiate in order to avoid the virus Confused
All business earns money for the government - so that's not an argument. Lots of business has been shut down that had no evidence of poor Covid practice. For some reason Racing & Football Clubs seem to think they are something special. 
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Just read online that Wangaratta are trialling afternoon track work sessions for the next couple of months.
Mon & Thurs from 2pm-4pm
Has been well received by those that have used it.
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Race free week going well so far down here. At the stables today; trainer, assistant trainer, stable staff, vet, farrier.

Who's getting this extra time again?
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Imagine the PR disaster it would have been had they shut racing down for a period of time, lets be realistic there are people who would have taken lower grade horses out and shot them rather then be paying upkeep to have them in a paddock.  Callous but true.  It would potentially have only aided the anti-racing brigade, plus the various good points made above by Gay and others.
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