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Tlazolteotl 
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He quotes it so unless he's making stuff up he thinks it's from the letter.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 8:08pm |
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Would not believe a thing that comes out of that filth's mouth.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 8:10pm |
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Bolt f-f-s? Please don't give him the opportunity to insult what little intelligence some of us possess.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 8:10pm |
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OK, we are going to get little snippets, not the letter itself, unless they redact names of people who are not named so far.
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Tlazolteotl
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 8:12pm |
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Only the illuminati have the letter.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 8:16pm |
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It is "out there", a bit like its author was, seemingly.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 8:17pm |
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Needless to say that excludes Scotty (I totally feel for abused women but support my man) Morrison.
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Tlazolteotl
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 8:20pm |
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We will soon see if killer Milligan can put some meat on the bones of the accusation.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 8:31pm |
To what do you refer, SC ?
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 10:12pm |
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Not having watched Porter's recent press conference, and seeing snippets tonight, he does not impress. Looked ready to burst into tears, I don't like that sh1t
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 11:03pm |
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Max, on one occasion I recall Bob Hawke breaking down in tears over his family relationships.
If Porter is innocent of those allegations, of which I have no idea, do you not concede that his political career is now finished and he had every reason to be tearful ? |
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 11:24pm |
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I didn't like Hawke much BB. This bloke should have been firm and frank, to the point, not answer questions, state his case and leave the dias. What is there to say, if you are strenuously denying something, the onus is not on you to offer "plausible denials". He looked like he was trying to garner sympathy, as a man unfairly accused.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2021 at 11:40pm |
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Interestingly, it was mentioned by someone other than Porter, that this woman thought she was going to become PM, in her future, and incredibly, Porter was said to have the very same ambition, "before he was 50". Well, if people can't see the significance of that, I can, this woman may have harboured resentments that Porter had forged ahead in politics, and conceivably might have ended up as PM, and that might explain this woman coming forward in 2018, when the unthinkable seemed possible, Porter might become PM. Well, she was prepared to let it all slide, up till then, it really does seem whatever happened to her, was secondary to resentments around her voided political ambitions.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 7:21am |
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 7:28am |
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max - the village psychologist
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 7:48am |
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Not much new in that story for those following along, but it did put an actual person into the place of ''the accuser''
Interesting they opened the story(after the introduction piece) with a Porter lie on sexual indiscretions that seems to have completely escaped the twitterverse. Porter rejecting the 2017 story ''categorically'' and threatening law suits. That word was repeated by both Morrison and Porter this last week. Like ''rule of law'' it doesn't seem to mean much to them.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 7:54am |
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What lie was that?
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 8:15am |
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That Porter was photographed and witnessed by many staffers in Canberra hotel kissing and cuddling a female staffer. It stayed inhouse until 2 years later. At the time Turnbull questioned him over it, he denied it, and got his promotion to AG(was always getting it, but that's another story) When the Canberra bubble story came out last year Porter categorically denied the story and went on radio denying while not quite denying(maybe knew the game was up) Tudge adviser Rachelle Miller, who witnessed the incident and went into damage control seizing the phone of another staffer photographing it went public and confirmed the story. She was the blonde woman at the beginning.
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Ms Miller told Four Corners she saw Mr Porter and the young Liberal staffer "kissing and cuddling". "I was really worried about it ending up in the papers," Ms Miller said. "It would do a lot of damage to the Government. It would be a scandal that we didn't need." Ms Miller said she accompanied her boss, Mr Tudge, to confront the male public servant who took the photograph. The public servant had grabbed a journalist's phone because his own phone battery was flat. Mr Tudge, who is friends with Mr Porter, angrily demanded that the journalist delete the photograph. The following day, Mr Tudge contacted the journalist, again insisting that the photo be deleted to erase the evidence. Prior to the program going to air Mr Tudge did not provide an on-the-record response to multiple interview requests from Four Corners, or provide answers to detailed questions. Christian Porter: "But 4 Corners' depiction of interactions in the bar are categorically rejected. "The claims made by Sarah Hanson Young ... they are rejected as totally false." |
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 9:29am |
Put it this way, it does seem a remarkable co-incidence that we find two people who knew one another, that had both explicitly expressed to others, a serious ambition to become PM one day ! How many such people did you encounter in your youth, marble. Be honest now, the answer to that, is zero. This woman was described as being very bright, and super-ambitious. Goodness me, it becomes plausible she felt she was in competition with Porter, for a job ! I just think it is too much of a co-incidence, for this not to a significant factor. And explains why she finally came forward in 2018, and not when she should have, decades earlier.
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She was so intimidated by Porter's ambitions, a person that she hardly knew(only in debating team) that she decided to go into academia and be a historian for 30 years before snapping?
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 9:39am |
Kissing and cuddling, so far king what ? That would suggest an adulterer, and Canberra has had plenty of those, one even became a very popular PM, so people don't care, sexual assault and infidelity are two entirely different things. And as for "was always getting it, ( the job of AG) but that's another story" what is that supposed to mean ? There are agendas within agendas in this Porter business, but the bottom line is this, if he has broken any laws, and not been brought to book, that is down to people not reporting such alleged offences. The reasons they might not have, cannot be assumed to be the fault of the accused.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 9:42am |
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No max, the point is the categorical denial when you believe the coverup has been effected.
Deny, lie and deny until exposed.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 9:46am |
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And it is not about laws broken when it comes to National Security, it is whether you are compromised and can be blackmailed or not. I bet the Chinese have copies of the photos. No use to them now though.
The National Security aspect was the reason for Turnbull questioning him before giving him the AG job. Porter lied, he got the job. Did he give up anything to anyone over the 2 years before his lie was exposed?
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 9:53am |
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According to Turnbull, Porter actually told him in that meeting that he coveted Turnbull's chair. Would someone that driven be trusted to tell the truth if it risked blowing up his ambitions?
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 9:55am |
She could muster what it takes to rise in academia, but she couldn't muster the mental wherewithal to bring a criminal to justice, anywhere along all those intervening years, but suddenly finds the ability (briefly) when it looks like Porter is getting installed in high-level cabinet positions ? Quite the anomaly, that. Please explain it. In terms that it didn't involve her resentment of his getting where she saw herself getting, at one stage. It just doesn't stack up any other way. Her mistake, was not to report a crime, if indeed a crime occurred. Be reasonable now, why would you let a perpetrator off the hook, by failing to report, unless you thought reporting would disadvantage you in some other way ? Good thing she never got to be AG, she put justice for herself, and just as importantly, the rest of society, on the back-burner, for some unexplained reason, and I am not buying "unresolved disabling trauma" as her advancing in academia shows, she was not some wreck.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 9:59am |
Porter telling lies to Turnbull, is what put Mal on the warpath, I am surprised Morrison hasn't got rid of him on that alone. Let's not forget, this bloke told people he wanted to be PM at age 17. People like that are a pain in the bum, they don't want to serve the country, they want to serve themselves !
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 10:00am |
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I have never been raped or so traumatized that I couldn't function. I have no idea what such people are going through.
On Saturday one of the toughest men to have played Rugby, Tony Daly revealed the story of him being sexually abused a boy by brothers and the destructive effect it had on his life before finally confronting it. He is no weak woman. |
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 10:07am |
It has been acknowledged this woman was bipolar, can you or I know what was going through her mind if she regressed back to her youth and recalled that both her and Porter had the ambitions of becoming PM. Thirty odd years later Porter looked as if he might achieve that ambition and any resentment she may have had played on her confused mind and she concocted a story about an alleged rape back in her youth. Max's supposition has some merit. |
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Posted: 09 Mar 2021 at 10:10am |
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I read that the accuser entertained the idea of being Mrs Porter before and after the assault.
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