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There is no proposed inheritance tax.

Doris is a fool or a liar.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Money doesn’t lie Maxie.

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Correct Rusty ... Surprising so short.

He can fool plenty with the MUM line ...   How Hypocritical for a man who has split Families & is now tearful about Mummy being forced to be a humble School Teacher.
    I think he's been gelded.


I thought you would be interested in this story I found on MSN: Comment: A closer look at Scott Morrison’s CV
http://a.msn.com/01/en-au/BBTqoLg?ocid=se

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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

There is no proposed inheritance tax.

Doris is a fool or a liar.

Not before the election rusty!

If they get their Negative Gearing And Capital Gains Cuts, and their Franking Credit Theft through ... they ARE Death Taxes in themselves - they are just inflicting them before you DIE!!!

... but Listen, Listen, Listen!

Danielle Wood is the Policy Director who put together LABOR'S FRAUDULENT Negative Gearing Policy, using batches of CORRUPT DATA ... bviously too excited about her DEATH TAX PROPOSAL!

Enjoy what the Socialists who advise Labor REALLY think ...Dead
Taxing inheritances might be unpopular, but it’s fair



In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

There is no proposed inheritance tax.

Doris is a fool or a liar.

Not before the election rusty!

If they get their Negative Gearing And Capital Gains Cuts, and their Franking Credit Theft through ... they ARE Death Taxes in themselves - they are just inflicting them before you DIE!!!

... but Listen, Listen, Listen!

Danielle Wood is the Policy Director who put together LABOR'S FRAUDULENT Negative Gearing Policy, using batches of CORRUPT DATA ... bviously too excited about her DEATH TAX PROPOSAL!

Enjoy what the Socialists who advise Labor REALLY think ...Dead
Taxing inheritances might be unpopular, but it’s fair





They will never do it without a mandate so stop beating up the panic, Doris. And if they do ever get a mandate for it it's a great idea.
An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Oh dear, Doc has it really got to this?

Railing against non existent policies?

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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

There is no proposed inheritance tax.

Doris is a fool or a liar.

Not before the election rusty!

If they get their Negative Gearing And Capital Gains Cuts, and their Franking Credit Theft through ... they ARE Death Taxes in themselves - they are just inflicting them before you DIE!!!

... but Listen, Listen, Listen!

Danielle Wood is the Policy Director who put together LABOR'S FRAUDULENT Negative Gearing Policy, using batches of CORRUPT DATA ... bviously too excited about her DEATH TAX PROPOSAL!

Enjoy what the Socialists who advise Labor REALLY think ...Dead
Taxing inheritances might be unpopular, but it’s fair





They will never do it without a mandate so stop beating up the panic, Doris. And if they do ever get a mandate for it it's a great idea.
Very good TlazLOL ... I never got a cent either ... but hopefully there is something for my kids, if I don't live too long! Wink
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

There is no proposed inheritance tax.

Doris is a fool or a liar.

is that the same as the mediscare ?

Tried it once, don't repeat because we were lying?

who says their is no inheritance tax? labor is lying.
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It was Labor/Greens policy up until very recently, when The Greens removed it from their website until after the election ... still 6 days to go, you know what they are like with their "thought bubbles" ...

Hey, SC, why did they only change that policy now? ... sorry for the stupid question.Wink

You can't have Greens Preferences without their Policies!Hug

Julian Burnside backs Greens on death duties and drugs in battle for Kooyong


Greens candidate Julian Burnside has backed policies to decriminalise drugs and impose death duties, during his opening moves in a bid to topple Treasurer Josh Frydenberg from the blue-ribbon seat of Kooyong.

Mr Burnside also rejected boat turn-backs as an effective way to discourage asylum seekers, highlighting the divide on policy with Mr Frydenberg in the contest for one of the Liberal Party’s plum electorates.

The Melbourne barrister, known for representing asylum seekers in legal clashes with the federal government, said he had chosen to run for the Greens because of the party’s support for human rights.

But his commitments to the Greens’ policy platform, including death duties and a more permissive approach to drug use, leave him open to attacks from the Liberal Party over tax measures that would hurt the voters of Kooyong.


The Greens’ tax policies include the removal of stamp duty on housing and an inheritance tax for the “super wealthy”.

“Australia is one of the few countries that does not tax pre-existing wealth. Someone who has worked hard and earns a solid salary gets taxed more than someone who inherits a string of ‘old-money’ assets,” Senator Di Natale said in March 2017.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/julian-burnside-backs-greens-on-death-duties-and-drugs-in-battle-for-kooyong-20190305-p511v8.html

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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It really is a "delicious" Policy of Envy ... Labor's Hertland will lap it up! ... maybe not the ones who are living in Mummies inner city attic typing up a storm about "Climate Change" ...?LOL
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Was a Catholic but changed to Anglican after his divorce.


   He was doing the same to another man's wife as he will do to our Country.
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You mean making her happy maxie?

After a decade as PM it will probably feel like a marriage with him for us as well as the lovely Chloe.Thumbs Up
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Federal Election 2019: Tradies’ family trusts in Bill Shorten’s firing line

Proposed changes to the tax treatment of family trusts could affect thousands of small business operators if the ALP wins Saturday’s Federal election.

The proposed tax rate of 30 per cent on all distributions from a trust is the same rate applied to Australia’s biggest listed companies.

The changes would force many mum-and-dad businesses to pay thousands of dollars more in tax, though a unique carve-out for farmers would see many wealthy family trusts come out unscathed.With a proposed start date of July this year, Labor estimates the change would raise $4.1 billion over the next four years.

RSM Australia’s senior tax manager Tracey Dunn said the change would have a significant impact.

“Business profits will be taxed starting at a minimum rate equal to the tax rate imposed on large corporate taxpayers,” Ms Dunn said.

In their discretionary tax reform policy document, Labor claims the shift is targeted at high-income earners who use trusts to avoid paying tax.

“Discretionary trusts are being used to reduce high income earners’ tax liabilities through ‘income splitting’,” it says.

“Income-splitting allows high-net worth people on top marginal tax rates to reduce their tax bills by apportioning their non-PAYG income, like investment income, to people (usually family members) who face much lower marginal tax rates.”

Discretionary family trusts are a popular way of structuring a small business operation because it can protect personal assets from being accessed by creditors in the event of a business failure and allows the distribution of income to beneficiaries of the trust.

In this case, the small business is usually run within the trust and the trustees, typically the business owners, will distribute profits to the listed beneficiaries.

These can include individuals who are not actively involved in running the business.

Business profits will be taxed starting at a minimum rate equal to the tax rate imposed on large corporate taxpayers.
Tracey Dunn, RSM

Family trusts are used extensively by tradies such as plumbers and carpenters with many running for decades.

Under current arrangements if the profits are fully distributed, the trust pays no tax on the distribution but the individual receiving the distribution pays tax at their personal marginal tax rate.

The distribution can vary from year to year to any beneficiary of the trust and this feature allows the tax burden to be shared equally.

Because the individual is taxed, each can access the $18,200 tax-free threshold and make use of tax offsets to reduce the total tax bill further. For adult Australian residents it means no tax is payable in 2018-19 if an individual earns less than $21,595.

A higher threshold applies for seniors who can access the senior and pensioners tax offset.

For singles the threshold is $32,915 and for eligible couples, a combined $59,218.

For children, changes dating back to the early 1980s mean they can receive $416 a year tax free and thereafter, are effectively taxed at the top marginal tax rate of 45 per cent.

Under the proposed change, each dollar distributed to anyone aged 18 years or over would be taxed at 30 per cent, no matter how small the distribution is.

Special disability trusts, charitable trusts, testamentary trusts and public unit trusts, such as managed investment funds are not affected by the proposed change.

The policy also refers to “farm trusts” being exempt from the change.

“They do not provide any detail on what they would consider to be a farming trust,” Ms Dunn says.

Many large farming operations are set up through family trusts allowing the profits to be distributed to multiple beneficiaries.

The bigger the family, the more the profits can be divided which appears to be at odds with the intent of the reform.https://thewest.com.au/business/your-money/federal-election-2019-tradies-family-trusts-in-bill-shortens-firing-line-ng-b881193465z

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China is the sleeping giant in the federal election campaign and it's not going away

The federal election campaign is reaching the back end, but China has finally found itself on the front page.

It took Paul Keating and his warnings of Australia's security chiefs going "berko" over Beijing. The former prime minister wanted them fired for risking relations between China and Australia.

Only days later, rival senators, the Liberal's Simon Birmingham and Labor's Penny Wong, traded barbs over Mr Keating's comments with Senator Wong finishing the debate refusing to shake Senator Birmingham's hand.

China is the sleeping giant in our election campaign: politicians may choose to keep it quiet, but as China goes, so may we.Just weeks ago, I attended a China "masterclass" run by our premier security think-tank — the Australian Strategic Policy Institute — and came away profoundly disturbed. It was like entering a parallel universe, a world apart from the phoney Canberra consensus that we can "have it both ways" — remain bound to America and economically tied to China.

These were people who see China up-close: journalists who had experienced first-hand the repressive regime, military analysts who know how great the risk of conflict is, economists who shiver at the prospect of a China economic melt-down, political scientists who doubt Xi Jinping can fulfil his dream of being President for life.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-13/federal-election-china-sleeping-giant/11102342

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Scomo Forget all the disappointments we actually delivered, forget that we have been self-absorbed and rudderless, and imagine what we could deliver if only you are generous enough to send us back for a third go.”
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He scrubbed all the fallen PMs from the launch yesterday and tried to rewrite history suggesting the Liberal history started with him. 

Too bad for him everyone has stopped listening.
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Originally posted by mc41 mc41 wrote:

Scomo Forget all the disappointments we actually delivered, forget that we have been self-absorbed and rudderless, and imagine what we could deliver if only you are generous enough to send us back for a third go.”


No invitation for you wc41 to my LNP victory party.
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Not trying to be nasty Max,
But this could very well be the last Liberal Federal Government you will ever see.
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Nah Rusty, suspect Macca will be around for another three or so terms.

Rather more concerned for the Doc, who's believed to be in his late 50's, because he's the one who may well never see another Coalition government even if he stays upright for another 20 years or more.  Cry
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The ALP are odds on to win, but by how many seats ? Even if they have a small majority in the reps. they probably will not have numbers in the Senate to pass their tax increases to CGT, superannuation and scrubbing negative gearing on existing homes. 
Shorten, even with the support of those loony Greens, will be forced to water down all of those tax policies.
With a small majority the ALP will be no certainty to win the next election in three years as their policies will be rejected by the electorate once they wake up to the economic consequences of electing an ALP / Green government. 

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Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

The ALP are odds on to win, but by how many seats ? Even if they have a small majority in the reps. they probably will not have numbers in the Senate to pass their tax increases to CGT, superannuation and scrubbing negative gearing on existing homes. 
Shorten, even with the support of those loony Greens, will be forced to water down all of those tax policies.
With a small majority the ALP will be no certainty to win the next election in three years as their policies will be rejected by the electorate once they wake up to the economic consequences of electing an ALP / Green government.

Yes the Senate could be a problem.

As for the rest, could I borrow your crystal ball please Bob.  Tongue
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Small majority = less than 11 seat majority
 Large majority = more than 11 seat majority

Small majority means no guarantee of a second term
Large majority probable second term 

Either way the Senate is a problem for whoever wins Reps. at any election now or in the future.
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Not trying to be nasty Max,
But this could very well be the last Liberal Federal Government you will ever see.
What is it with you left leaners ? What a ridiculous comment. Your mob will come a cropper in their first term - nothing surer. The place will be broke - a shambles. The ALP can never put theory into practice. They will be too busy reducing our number one export & processing the boat people to do anything else. "you will ever see" LOL
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It will be fun just having you on the backfoot for 3 years Rusty. Like shooting ducks in a pond
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& its Macca - not Max.
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Not my mob,but anyway, good to see you’ve conceded.
Will make getting through Saturday night easier for you,without any silly expectations.
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Keep up Rusty - i conceded a week ago
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Not trying to be nasty Max,
But this could very well be the last Liberal Federal Government you will ever see.


You are about 13 years late on that prediction Rusty but If I have to wait 3 years I'll see Shorten sent back to the days where he could only come up with a School teacher to propel him into stardom ...

I'm prepared for a "Weeping Willie ' win .   To add to The OZ problems.     
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