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    Posted: 09 Nov 2022 at 9:41pm
Well he's locked up for 2 months until trial anyway. Maybe he'll learn about consent while he's inside.
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Because of the very real "culture wars" of the modern West, TJ. (Which don't exist, according to "progressive" types.)
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How did this end up in here anyway? LOL
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

''If it's not on, it's not on''

Just saw this - your on good form today PT. Must be the US that's done it LOL

Mind you - the original "if it fits, it fits" probably works as well LOL
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Also a crime. Add that to the four counts of assault then.
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Fair dinkum - 4 cracks + oral sex . That's not possible is it LOL


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You need to update your info. He eventually put the condom on - was having sex - & then she saw it beside her. That's when it got "messy"
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Ok - this is how I see it

The ferry activity gave her a pretty good idea of the sort of bloke he was. In her words - he forcibly kissed me & smacked my buttocks. I believe at that point both knew they were headed for consensual sex

He continued with the rough approach in the house which came to a head over wearing a condom. The latest news report suggested he actually put one on for a short period. When she realised it had come off things got messy. So was their first effort consensual ? Don't know - however sounded that way

I'm not saying the guy hasn't a case to answer. The choking has a bit to answer. However believe it or not TJ rough consensual sex is not uncommon. And considering the lead in on the ferry - its hard to turn around & suggest she wasn't given the heads up. 

So for me its a lower end case

"The complainant tried to remove the accused's hand by grabbing his wrist but the accused squeezed tighter around her neck,"

She also gagged and couldn't breath during an attempt at oral sex, the court documents claim.

"She continually tried to pull away from the accused, a clear indication that she was not consenting."


As for the ferry incidents she obviously was still up for it after that and up until a point as he is facing four counts of sexual intercourse without consent.

"...sexually assaulted four times in her Rose Bay home"

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''If it's not on, it's not on''
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Your forgot the Tinder bit at the start, 1-1. Dare I suggest a loose chick hooking up with an international cricket player on Tinder was more motivated by fame and fortune than love/ attraction.

Maybe I'm wrong. She maybe just worked so hard all day every day that she never got a chance to meet a nice bloke...

Poor thing ended up getting her butt slapped, the guy didn't use a condom, and then she was choked during oral sex.

What an insane world we're living in, that this even gets debated about.
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Yes - & that wouldn't surprise me with this bloke. Probably done it a million times. But tell me PT - if the first encounter was consensual while she believed he still had one on - how does that change the outcome. I think it becomes very complicated.
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You heard of ''stealthing'' oneone? It is a crime in NSW .
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& PT i threw another euphemism in there . See if you can spot it LOL
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Ok - this is how I see it

The ferry activity gave her a pretty good idea of the sort of bloke he was. In her words - he forcibly kissed me & smacked my buttocks. I believe at that point both knew they were headed for consensual sex

He continued with the rough approach in the house which came to a head over wearing a condom. The latest news report suggested he actually put one on for a short period. When she realised it had come off things got messy. So was their first effort consensual ? Don't know - however sounded that way

I'm not saying the guy hasn't a case to answer. The choking has a bit to answer. However believe it or not TJ rough consensual sex is not uncommon. And considering the lead in on the ferry - its hard to turn around & suggest she wasn't given the heads up. 

So for me its a lower end case
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Maybe oneone thought the choking was foreplay.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

So she was forcibly kissed on the ferry & had her buttocks smacked. And continued into her house apparently. Why did she do that ?

So she was happy to have consensual sex as long as he wore a condom. So she obviously had no issue with the sex bit - where he made his mistake was not wearing a condom

Good luck

"After they arrived at her home, the cricketer allegedly refused to wear a condom and choked the woman three times."


It's literally in the same sentence.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

If you don't see anything odd in that article (Tip - I've already spelt it out for you)

What I find odd is that after reading that article you're drawn to the lack of condom and make 0 mention of the alleged unwanted choking and gagging.
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This case has a Jarryd Hayne feel about it

They are having a third go at him
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Do you find anything slightly odd in the details of that article TJ ?


After they arrived at her home, the cricketer allegedly refused to wear a condom and choked the woman three times.

"The complainant tried to remove the accused's hand by grabbing his wrist but the accused squeezed tighter around her neck," the police facts sheet says.


Yeah, that part's pretty odd mate. Would suggest a lack of consent if found to be true. 

But hey, that's just my opinion.



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If you don't see anything odd in that article (Tip - I've already spelt it out for you)
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If I don't what..?
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I think I answered that. If you don't I cant help you TJ
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Now, now TJ - what I said was that defence could be used as a mitigating strategy. That's all. 

I still say he will serve closer to 0 years in jail than 20. Lets see 

Did you find anything slightly odd in the details of that article?
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Misogyny replete, courtesy of our swinging voter.  Where's a rope when you need it?
You back on the cheap red again Second Chance ?
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Now, now TJ - what I said was that defence could be used as a mitigating strategy. That's all. 

I still say he will serve closer to 0 years in jail than 20. Lets see 
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Misogyny replete, courtesy of our swinging voter.  Where's a rope when you need it?
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Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Do you find anything slightly odd in the details of that article TJ ?

After they arrived at her home, the cricketer allegedly refused to wear a condom and choked the woman three times.

"The complainant tried to remove the accused's hand by grabbing his wrist but the accused squeezed tighter around her neck," the police facts sheet says.


Yeah, that part's pretty odd mate. Would suggest a lack of consent if found to be true. 

But hey, that's just my opinion.


She also gagged and couldn't breath during an attempt at oral sex, the court documents claim.

"She continually tried to pull away from the accused, a clear indication that she was not consenting."


He can say it's just a cultural thing, he'll be fine I'm sure.


I thought for sure you'd be on the woman's side this time wunwun. She even reported it to the police in an orderly fashion.
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Fair & Balanced - as usual Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Do you find anything slightly odd in the details of that article TJ ?

After they arrived at her home, the cricketer allegedly refused to wear a condom and choked the woman three times.

"The complainant tried to remove the accused's hand by grabbing his wrist but the accused squeezed tighter around her neck," the police facts sheet says.


Yeah, that part's pretty odd mate. Would suggest a lack of consent if found to be true. 

But hey, that's just my opinion.


 Oneone thinks choking a woman while having sex is 'normal'...

 Been watching too many porn movies...

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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

For 11 it's ALWAYS the alleged victims fault.  Ouch

Says far more about him than either of the parties involved.

 Yep...

 Continually defends rapists...

 Enough said...

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