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Great story from her website.




Horse ownership is a rollarcoaster ride. Just ask Max Walker who owns HELLO MY FRIEND.

Max bought Hello My Friend from an on-line sale back in 2017. She was an unraced filly by Americain which Tarcoola Stud was selling. It just so happened that Jules was acting as Tarcoola's agent and he brokered the deal which saw Max acquire the filly for $12,000.

Max was a first time owner. He lived opposite Mornington Race Course on a little 2 acre block and after losing his son, decided that he needed a project to fill the void. 'Friend' was it.

Jules convinced Max to send his new filly to Charlotte and so began the journey.

After showing very little in her jumpouts (this is a common theme with daughters of Americain), Max and Charlotte headed to Geelong for her debut earlier in the year with very low expectations. She was 150-1 and given no chance. When Benny Thompson took her to the lead, we all exopected her to compound. However, when she kicked a length clesr on the corner, Max and Charlotte stood in silence as they pondfed the unthinkable. She didn't win but she ran a gallant third, beaten a long neck in what of the greatest debuts seen at Hayfields.

The high was short lived as six unpalced runs followed including a 23L defeat at Cranbourne when Friend went too
hard out in front. Friend was at the cross-roads when she ventured to Racing.Com Park on Oaks Day.

The blinkers were removed, riding tactics altered and she found her way back on a heavy track. The old Friend returned with a stirring victory which brought a tear to Max's eye. The day will go down as one of Max's most memorable moments.

A big thanks to Cheryl and Chloe for saddling up Friend whilst Charlotte and Jules were at Flemington.

And lastly to Max, we did it, with some help from above!
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Interesting website POP. Might be a trainer to follow.
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HIGH MODE (NZ)Brown or black gelding 2013 
Redwood
Bay or brown 2006
High Chaparral
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
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2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Kasora
Brown 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Delsy
1975
1972
1-l
13-c
Kozana
Brown 1982
Kris
Koblenza
1976
1966
2-o
1-n
Arum Lily
Bay 2001
Woodman
Chestnut 1983
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
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13-c
Playmate
Chestnut 1975
Buckpasser
Intriguing
1963
1964
1-s
1-s
Jolypha
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Lyphard
Bay 1969
Northern Dancer
Goofed
1961
1960
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Navajo Princess
Bay 1974
Drone
Olmec
1966
1966
1-l
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Lalla
Chestnut 2003
Silver Hawk
Bay 1979
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
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Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
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Gris Vitesse
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Sanlinea
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1947
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Matchiche
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1951
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Bay 1986
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Bay 1981
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1975
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Bay 1979
Habitat
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1974
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Santa Linda
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Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Attica
1959
1953
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8-g
Santa Paula
Bay 1967
Santa Claus
Pocahontas
1961
1955
3-o
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 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5m x 5m Sadler's Wells3m x 4m
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How good a run by old Crafty Cruiser.
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Great run the old boy! Winner looks like it would run 5 miles
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Crafty now has $998k in the bank
Not bad for a $11,000 buy
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Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

How good a run by old Crafty Cruiser.

Now only $2k short of the $1.0m prizemoney mark.
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Round of applause! Absolute success!! Great ride by jock. Top training performance
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I hope one day this can become a stand alone Saturday meeting.
Will sit nicely between Ballarat and Pakenham after the Spring in Melbourne ends
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Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

I hope one day this can become a stand alone Saturday meeting.
Will sit nicely between Ballarat and Pakenham after the Spring in Melbourne ends

Yeh why not.

It is certainly a class above the very best Moonee Valley can throw up.


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I loved it and looked to be popular at the track too. Warrnambool is the perfect location. Hope it goes from strength to strength.
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Why did they run a 5m 31s etc to the other race over the distance run of 4m 31s?  I didn't see the race so just wondered.
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I really enjoyed the race.


Quesion..how would a Melbourne Cup winner fare in the Jericho Cup? Is it possible that they would be "too brilliant"to run out the 4600 metres?
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Why did they run a 5m 31s etc to the other race over the distance run of 4m 31s?  I didn't see the race so just wondered.

THe Jericho was 600m further than the consolation. 
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I wonder if Rick McIntosh could have fit any more jumps racing references into his call. Just about every furlong a mention. “If this was the grand annual they’d be about to jump a triple” “the grand annual winner from May”
It was a great race and a great concept. Let it stand on its own without trying to tie it into the jumps scene.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

I hope one day this can become a stand alone Saturday meeting.
Will sit nicely between Ballarat and Pakenham after the Spring in Melbourne ends


Yeh why not.

It is certainly a class above the very best Moonee Valley can throw up.




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Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

I really enjoyed the race.


Quesion..how would a Melbourne Cup winner fare in the Jericho Cup? Is it possible that they would be "too brilliant"to run out the 4600 metres?


Given the fact the Jericho is only for Aus / NZ bred horses and is a Benchmark 90, t would be virtually impossible for a Melbourne Cup winner to run in the race.
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Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

I really enjoyed the race.


Quesion..how would a Melbourne Cup winner fare in the Jericho Cup? Is it possible that they would be "too brilliant"to run out the 4600 metres?


Given the fact the Jericho is only for Aus / NZ bred horses and is a Benchmark 90, t would be virtually impossible for a Melbourne Cup winner to run in the race.


Interesting question none the less.

This year it was a benchmark 76.

Sir Charles Road would have compressed the weights if he qualified. I think Who Shot Thebarman was the only qualified Cup runner ?

Who Shot Thebarman......108 = 79 kgs
Sir Charles Road........107 = 78.5
Youngstar...............107 = 76.5

Who Shot Thebarman with 79
The rest of the field would have been on the minimum 64.




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Great race....
Wonderful atmosphere. I hope they continue with these long distance races. These kind of races use to be staple in the 19th century.

But not for the commentator.

Really all those references to the jumps, where they would of been and what the horse won at is just taking away from the necessary color commentary which is needed for a event like this.

I reckon that kid would of done a better job. His tone and volume was heaps better than what I just heard.



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I agree brudder, it wasn't a terrible call but the constant references to Warnambool jumps races took something away from the race for mine.
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What sort of crowd do they get in May ?
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What was crowd like compared to normal cup day crowed? Or maybe wangoom day crowd? It look a good size on TVs?
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

What sort of crowd do they get in May ?

Packed.  Trying to get accommodation anywhere near Warrnambool in Cup week is impossible without a well in advance booking. 
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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

I wonder if Rick McIntosh could have fit any more jumps racing references into his call. Just about every furlong a mention. “If this was the grand annual they’d be about to jump a triple” “the grand annual winner from May”
It was a great race and a great concept. Let it stand on its own without trying to tie it into the jumps scene.

Agree with that. Was a good call otherwise.
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Rickey carries on a bit to much for the average listener , yes I'm the average listener
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Nothing wrong with the call, I thought he did it justice.
Was disappointed with the racing.com coverage though, talking over the national anthem and Last Post was disrespectful
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Rick Macintosh was great to listen to when he called Jump races at a time they were under pressure and looked like maybe be lost to the do gooders. He talked it up and gave it a presence. Now he just carries on and tries to put his mark on every race. As far as that bloke they have working for Racing.com down around Warrnambool area now, I can’t remember anyone who is more painful to listen to!. I reckon he said the word “sensational” forty times over the days telecast and then to talk through the Anthem and the Last Post was a disgrace. Don’t know who is or where they dragged him from but I hope his stay isn’t a long one.
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We had a great time watching Penthouse Playboy run in the Jericho, was a wonderful day.
The horse just got a bit lost going around the circuit for the first time, didn’t handle the sand crossings or the road, and being out in the wide spaces. Once he got onto the course proper, his finale was satisfactory. He has now gone out to the paddock for a well earned break, will be back for some races in the Autumn.
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