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It has been reported that what he did yesterday was in response to internal polling showing he has lost 10% of those voters. He lost a lot more yesterday with that pathetic stunt.

Joe Biden: He held the bible up but didn't open up, if he did open it up he'd learn something.



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But you say it is a book of fiction, PT ?
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haha, the orange idiot finally built a wall.
Not on the border, but in the park,stopping protesters getting near the White House.

Tough guy!!!
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

But you say it is a book of fiction, PT ?

What does that have to do with anything?

What is in it matters to the people who read it, believe it and who support Trump.

What I think of it is irrelevant.
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He is busy on the border too Rusty. Jared has stepped up his stealing of people's property (so-called Eminent Domain) along the border to try to get a few more miles up for photo ops before the election.

Problem s though that he contracted a guy he saw on Fox News so like COVID tests, masks and everything else connected to Fox/Cronyism it isn't likely to happen for years, if ever. Last contractor he got off Fox was fired when a bit of wind started blowing it down.
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You are agreeing with Biden saying Trump should take to heart the contents of the bible, not wave it about as a prop. But also saying the whole idea of "God", is fiction. Should Trump take that to heart ? I am not proposing that people should in fact take the bible too seriously, as a whole, when it is past obvious that the OT and NT are in severe conflict with one another. And the OT in severe conflict with known facts, as revealed not just by science, but plain common sense. Which is not to say the bible is a wash-out, just that it needs to be revised to meet the sensibilities of the age we live in.
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I have no interest what is in the bible. I have read it and it was a fine set of stories. 

That said I do not have a problem with people who think they need it as a guiding principle in their lives.

I object to people committing atrocities in it's name though and claiming some moral authority because they claim to read it. They clearly dont understand it or deliberately use it to manipulate it's believers. 

Christians in America are waking up to the fact Trump is the latter and they are walking away from him.
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It was a throw away line by Biden, calling out Trump's hypocrisy and the fact he believes Trump has never opened it before.
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Trump is a showman, and show is what you get, from such people. That he uses props and drama as a backdrop, is all part of the show. Substance seems not what the electorate want.
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43,000,000 unemployed, 78.000,000 in food stress, 106,000 dead and 1,800,000 million sick from a virus that was ignored, race-rioting country wide certainly puts some stress on circuses as a distraction. 
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It is no good using moral indignation against people you regard as immoral, or amoral. You use calm reason, and if that does not play with the electorate, then you have to face that democracy is simply a contest of numbers, not how the numbers were gained. Hillary "thought aloud" about the deplorables, people like Trump see them as a resource to be harvested for votes. It is a very practical matter, of getting the votes, but whatever works, not a contest of "right" ideas.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

43,000,000 unemployed, 78.000,000 in food stress, 106,000 dead and 1,800,000 million sick from a virus that was ignored, race-rioting country wide certainly puts some stress on circuses as a distraction. 
Yep - & the Dow just closed another 267 points up
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Justin Trudeau on Trump's gassing his own people.


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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

43,000,000 unemployed, 78.000,000 in food stress, 106,000 dead and 1,800,000 million sick from a virus that was ignored, race-rioting country wide certainly puts some stress on circuses as a distraction. 
Yep - & the Dow just closed another 267 points up

That has been explained to you before oneone. The Dow is not the economy.
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The US Economy has recovered better than most - much better than some. Is that a tick for Donald ?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

43,000,000 unemployed, 78.000,000 in food stress, 106,000 dead and 1,800,000 million sick from a virus that was ignored, race-rioting country wide certainly puts some stress on circuses as a distraction. 
Yep - & the Dow just closed another 267 points up

That has been explained to you before oneone. The Dow is not the economy.
No - that's how you prefer to see it. If i remember rightly you were quite happy to quote the Dow performance when Trump was elected.
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no ticks for the orange man, no matter what he does Ermm
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

So interesting to see how Trump tops yesterday. 

Gassing your own people exercising their constitutional rights shooting Australian journalists, seen all round the world live, abusing the bible, enraging real Christians bringing condemnation from religious leaders all over the country, calling the military onto the streets and using military hardware to intimidate citizens will be hard to top, but I have confidence in the Lunatic Dotard Thumbs Up

Desperate times.

You've hit the bottle early today PT. I'm guessing your favourite cocktail is vodka and Kahlua? (Black Russian )

The chaos America is in shows why you need a leader who protects life and property and who (at least symbolically) respects traditional american values. His bible "stunt" has only outraaaaged a couple of phony libtard "christians" who hated him any way. On US forums his "stunt" is being praised by evangelicals and conservatives. But they must all be Russian bots I guess.
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those pesky Russian bots. I saw them smashing shop windows and burning cars last night😆
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You do know that Fox is lying to you?

24% unemployed or under-employed, 12% drop in GDP, $6 Trillion in added debt(so far) and Trump announced last week there would be no more reporting of economic data till after the election.

Why would you do that with such good news?


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Speaking of orchestrated stunts, love that Trudeau clip! Was he counting 20 seconds in his head do you think? What a tool.
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Step 1.
orange man gets employees to draft a list of measures to be met, in order for any economic re openings to be safe.

Step 2.
Orange man immediately bullies governors to re open, ignoring that these measures have not been met.

Step 3. All moron unite,and praise orange man for his genius......
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but PTs telling us It’s a major problem as the economy is tanking and unemployment is at 24% due to the lockdowns and now you tell us to stay in lockdown as the economy doesn’t matter
I thought you 2 were in the same page😱


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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

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So interesting to see how Trump tops yesterday. 

Gassing your own people exercising their constitutional rights shooting Australian journalists, seen all round the world live, abusing the bible, enraging real Christians bringing condemnation from religious leaders all over the country, calling the military onto the streets and using military hardware to intimidate citizens will be hard to top, but I have confidence in the Lunatic Dotard Thumbs Up

Desperate times.

You've hit the bottle early today PT. I'm guessing your favourite cocktail is vodka and Kahlua? (Black Russian )

The chaos America is in shows why you need a leader who protects life and property and who (at least symbolically) respects traditional american values. His bible "stunt" has only outraaaaged a couple of phony libtard "christians" who hated him any way. On US forums his "stunt" is being praised by evangelicals and conservatives. But they must all be Russian bots I guess.




Those fake Christian Evangelicals enriched by Trump will stick like corrupt Republicans to the end, but centrist Christians are peeling away and with only 42% approval he knows how fatal that is.
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

but PTs telling us It’s a major problem as the economy is tanking and unemployment is at 24% due to the lockdowns and now you tell us to stay in lockdown as the economy doesn’t matter
I thought you 2 were in the same page😱



That was our economy I said that about.

We have 50% debt to GDP US has 110%

We have a very good social net, the US doesn't

We are going to be affected far less by acting early and keeping deaths to 100 and cases to 7,000 US 106,000 and 1,8 million cases.

See the difference/
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

43,000,000 unemployed, 78.000,000 in food stress, 106,000 dead and 1,800,000 million sick from a virus that was ignored, race-rioting country wide certainly puts some stress on circuses as a distraction. 
Yep - & the Dow just closed another 267 points up

That has been explained to you before oneone. The Dow is not the economy.
No - that's how you prefer to see it. If i remember rightly you were quite happy to quote the Dow performance when Trump was elected.

The Dow is a reflection of investor sentiment, the economic indicators, business and consumer confidence are the reflection of the health of the economy.

The Dow collapsed at the start of the pandemic, but the FED immediately released $4-6 Trillion of Quantitative easing(printed money) to guarantee financial institutions and as it turned out medium to large business as well as releasing a heap in Community Bonds to counties and States.

That is funny money to artificially protect investors money so they started investing again. 
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Trump's leg hasn't fallen off , so your wrong again.

   I can't wait until Biden has to face up to the election strategies.

His Governors have some answering to do. Party time for Donald john , when the verbal contest gets under way. Joe can't hide forever.
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That was someone else's claim maxie, and they said it to you.
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Some American TV networks have been caught out using aerial views of cities on fire, but using footage from the Movie Z, some Zombie film with Brad Pitt.

LOL

Oh sure, fake news, isnt fake. lol

Terror Organisation Antifa died yesterday.
Soros died too.

How many nations has Trump invaded?
Imperialistic America, the world hated that.
Trump hated America being Imperialistic.
Media would love Trump to bomb and invade other nations.
But he knows home is what his obligation is, unlike the Bushs', Clintons, Obamas, etc.

America needed a huge cleanout, over 70 years of Imperialism, and it took a world hero, Trump, to do it.
He is officially an Emperor.

Ive already moved on now, to the India versus China tensions.
Trump has restored America.
Its nothing compared to 2 nations with 1.4 billon people each, talking about bombing each other.
Americas tensions down at Macy's and some little terror group Antifa,  is nothing compared to China v India.
ALL my posts are written as Sci-Fi, no different to an Orson Welles and should not be taken literally. Sci-fi is a genre of Fiction.
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If it wasn't in he last 10 minutes PT , I wouldn't remember.   
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