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Thanks B.  And thanks Gay, even though I couldn't get the replay to work.  Thumbs Up
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OLEKSANDRA is ZENYATTA like at shorter distances.Clap  And how about TIZ THE LAW?  Hard to gage this TC.  With the fatiguing distance race out of the way, it is hard to see a strong challenge at the moment, but shorter distances are definitely  going to open up doors for some worthy challengers.  That is the heart of stateside racing.
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Guys can you now see what a change can do for some horses.  Maybe they were trying to get her to run at the front in Australia who knows but this trainer and jockey have her down pat.  Give her time to settle and she delivers.  Thanks all who posted the above video.  Nice to see.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

What's really interesting is that they clearly changed her style of racing in the USA.  Instead of racing up front or handy they chose to drop her right out, and that's clearly paid dividends.

Be great if someone on here would be able to post the video.


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Where does Gamine go next?
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Brudder, I see Tiz the Law bolted in at Belmont 
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Originally posted by goldey goldey wrote:

Where does Gamine go next?



Baffert Will Point to Oaks with Gamine, Doesn’t Rule Out Preakness


Preakness is in October so there is a bit of time for that decision.
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Brudder, I see Tiz the Law bolted in at Belmont 


He really did win the Belmont Stakes easily. First NY bred to win the event since 1882. So those guys who had such a laughing time with Funny Cide 17 years ago are doing it all over again!

Interesting if where they go before the Derby.

I'd imagine the Haskell Invitational at Monmouth. I doubt them going to the Spa for the Travers. Or they just might go straight to the Derby. He did have a good break between the Florida Derby and Belmont and was fresh as he needed to be to win in such style!


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I thought the run of Max Player was  good
Will turf suit him, I wonder 
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Oleksandra is going to stay in NY with her next start in the G3 Troy Stakes at Saratoga.

Oleksandra became the first Australian-bred to win a grade 1 in North America since the Pattern Race scheme came into being in 1974.

"That will be her last race for Team Valor," said Barry Irwin, CEO of Team Valor International. "She will be offered for sale after the Breeders' Cup at an auction in Kentucky with an as-yet undetermined agent."

William Nader of the Hong Kong Racing Club tendered an invitation to the now 6-year-old mare for "the world's richest turf sprint on December 13"—the HK$22 million Longines Hong Kong Sprint (G1)—so it is possible the mare's new owner could race her there or in Dubai over the winter before sending her off to the breeding shed.


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15 seems to be the number in more ways than 1 lol, their favourite son Bob Baffertt copped a 15 day suspension LOLLOLLOLLOL, two of his horses on positives , reckons horses were affected when tongue ties were put in place, so what's new.
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Paret (AUS) lining up tomorrow in the G1 United Nations Stakes at Monmouth Park.  Lets see if he goes better than Tobin Bronze (AUS) did in 1968 when the event was held at Atlantic City Racecourse. That was the race that Dr. Fager carried 134 lbs (61kg) to victory.

For a nice historical read for you folks who can't go outside.


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A G1 for Paret, surely it has no hope 
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Nice to see you back on deck Brudder.Wink
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

A G1 for Paret, surely it has no hope 


Paret (AUS) at 10/1 ran a game second trying to lead all the way got collared in the straight over the ~2200m. Time 2:12.60

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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Nice to see you back on deck Brudder.Wink

Thanks Carioca! Still in quarantine here in NJ!
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Originally posted by Brudder_A Brudder_A wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Nice to see you back on deck Brudder.Wink

Thanks Carioca! Still in quarantine here in NJ!
Is that New Jersey or New Joisey Brudder.LOLLOL
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Baffert 27 drug offences ShockedShockedShocked

In the US, there now seems to be no such thing as a good racing story.

My kids and I watched an old YouTube doco on Secretariat last night. On it, one US racing scribe said Secretariat’s wonderful story resonated far wider than the previous Triple Crown winner Citation (1948), because television had come along and put Secretariat in everyone’s living room.

America fell in love with the handsome red horse ridden by a battling jockey and owned by a powerful woman. In the Sport of Kings, these elements were irresistible.

In recent years, mainstream coverage seems only to broadcast the very worst of US horse racing and this is almost entirely horse racing’s fault; over 100 horse deaths at Los Alamitos and Santa Anita in the last 18 months, doping charges against famous trainers Jason Servis and Rick Dutrow and now you can add another, Bob Baffert.

There is no more famous trainer in the US than five-time Kentucky Derby winner Baffert.

Baffert has been suspended for a month by Arkansas officials over a drug breach that might be innocuous, but who knows. Two Baffert horses have tested positive to a pain blocker that is legal, but only under strict rules. It is illegal when found in a race-day swab.

Baffert has claimed traces of lidocaine had been inadvertently transferred from a medicine patch used by his assistant trainer for a sore back.

Mainstream media reports of a “Baffert drug ban” don’t read well and Baffert might feel they’re a bit unfair but then again, Baffert has had 27 prior drug breaches. All innocent? That’s a lot of human back patches.

The US has a history of trashing its own stories. You can’t read a yarn about Secretariat without also reading the rumblings that he never raced “clean.”

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Don't know if this has happened in OZ but its worth mentioning it here...

It also happened not far from where I am in NJ, up the Garden State Parkway at Monmouth Park.

The race was no big deal a $12,500 claiming event won by Strawberry Red. What was rare was that the connections didn't share in the result because the jockey, trainer and owner were all one in the same...  Luis Rivera Jr.

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Wow, I’m sure it happened back in Archers & Carbines day but I’ve never heard of it
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Have been closely watching the results of stakes races for about three months now (welcome Covit-19) and am just so taken by the fact that so many of the sire lines represented are totally unfamiliar to us here or in UK/Europe.  

So is the USA going in a very different direction?  Over to Brudder and all those interested in American racing and breeding per se.
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So what sire lines are you talking about ??    Lots of them pop up here.    Give us a hint.
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SC: This is an interesting topic (affected by COVID-19) - in terms of the whole Racing industry from breeding to racing. I'll pass on some stats and some industry observations from the US so can dig a bit deeper yourself since you are far more knowledgeable about the breeding aspects.

The Top ten Sire list is such:
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Sorry for the blank image.

The following link has the top ten


The top 10

1     Into Mischief    - Authentic           $980,000
2     Tapit             - Tacitus             $1,140,000
3     Midnight Lute    - Midnight Bisou     $3,721,520
4     Speightstown     - Mozu Superflare     $690,612
5     Curlin             - Gladiator King       $390,000
6     Uncle Mo         - Modernist           $406,400
7     Munnings         - Warrior's Charge    $450,000
8     Mucho Macho Man     - Mucho Gusto         $3,162,000
9     Candy Ride (ARG) - Vekoma               $456,675
10     The Factor         - Factor This           $460,250
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There a couple of interesting observations from this period of COVID-19 influenced racing:

1. Stake money is down, especially for the rich Graded races which would give owners add incentive to buy high priced yearlings from sires that have a known but costly reputation. With lower earings they will not be able afford such prices which will put pressure on Suds to lower prices for sires especially at the high end.

2. Since the only live sports shown on weekend since March has been Thoroughbred Racing on FOX Sports and to some end TRN on short spurts viewship and thus online wagering has remarkable outpaced gambling $.  Punters have not been betting on all the other sports which have eaten into the horse racing industry - and that include Casinos which are sharply down here in NV, NJ and the rest of the country. Yet after spluttering with online wagering and its legality it has been a blind savior for some of these establishments who have hooked into the gambler who has been sitting at home. (The gambler has also become the day trader in the US Stock market as it has reached record levels while unemployment is above 10%)

"Looking across the whole portfolios of sports properties we have across sports television, the two properties that have managed the circumstances (during the pandemic) the best are NASCAR and horse racing. They are the two that have risen to meet this moment and have put themselves in a better position for the future," said Michael Mulvihill, Fox Sports'

Horse Racing Viewership on Fox Networks Rises 300%



I don't think Horse Racing in the US has seen this kind of attention since 1970s when Secretariat won the Triple Crown.


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Clearly if you go back a number of generations the well known sires will appear in any sire line. However here's a few of the winners at Golden Gate today:

Aztec Warrior dam sire Out of the Box by Montbrook 
Diamond Blitz by Munnings by Speightstown
Dynamite Ride by Candy Ride by Ride the Rails
Willing to Burn dam sire Run Away and Hide by City Zip
Buen Amigo by Awesome Gambler by Coronado Quest

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