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TJMitchell
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So, how bout these fires ay?
Yeah, kissin' virtue signalling, left, green, scomo, rightard, labour fires that they are
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So I talk absolute nonsense ? In the 2018 Victorian state election the following seats changed from Liberal to the ALP, however in if we had first past the post elections the Liberals would have won,however after distribution of Green preferences the ALP won..... Bass, Bayswater, Box Hill, Burwood, Hawthorn, Mt Waverley, Nepean, Ringwood and South Barwon.
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Well why don't you tell us all if you don't believe that the emergency website and constant media updates aren't quite sufficient.
Maybe some like myself have the Victorian emergency siteopen all day to keep abreast of the latest, including current alerts in two separate locations where relatives' homes are under serious threat. And just so sorry I find it necessary to explain to climate denier Baghdad Bob that blaming the Greens, who I have little time for, can hardly be held responsible for the appalling apocalypse. |
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Jockey urges punters to donate4 January, 2020 Kah pledged to donate double her riding fee and any prizemoney earned from her three rides at Caulfield on Saturday. The South Australian jockey finished fourth aboard Zoushack, Licko’paint and Ocean’s Fourteen ensuring her donation would amount to over approximately $3200. The 24-year-old suggested donating to the Wildlife Information, Rescue and Education Service, an Australian organisation that’s aiding the animals caught up in the bushfires.
“Everybody knows the tragedy going on at the moment and there’s so many different organisations that need help at the moment,” Kah said. “The whole country is in flames at the moment, every cent counts. Just donate what you can.”
The Australian bushfire season (since August 1) has burned an
estimated 5.9 million hectares, destroyed over 2,500 buildings and
killed at least 24 people, with several persons missing in Victoria. Cranbourne Turf ClubHow is this for Karma. Less than 24hours after donating $5,000 to our Bushfire Appeal, Scott & Linda Brown have landed a $38 winner at Caulfield with Exasperate trained by son Matt. Racing.com
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Better hold out the tin on their way in before the races start rather than on the way out.
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All for Donation Appeals. Just not sure Punters should be a specific target group.
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Refer ALP Election Promises
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MRC commits bushfire supportThe Melbourne Racing Club will use its two meetings over the Australia Day weekend to support the country's bushfire-ravaged communities. At Caulfield on Saturday, MRC Chairman Peter Le Grand announced that all gate proceeds from the race meetings at Mornington on Friday, 24 January and Caulfield on Saturday, 25 January will be donated to the Bendigo Bank Community Fund. Fire services personnel and their families will also be provided free entry to both racedays. Le Grand said that the Club had determined that all donations made to the MRC Foundation during January will also be forwarded the the Fund.
"We're all devastated by what has happened and we're thinking of the people that have been impacted," Le Grand said. "At the Melbourne Racing Club, we've immediately made a donation to the (Bendigo Bank) Community Fund. "And every donation made to the Melbourne Racing Club Foundation for the month of January will go towards the fund." The commitment by the MRC follows a similar pledge by Racing Victoria Chairman Brian Kruger on Friday. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Racing participants support bushfire reliefRacing participants across Australia have pledged support to help with the bushfire relief as blazes continue to burn across the country. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews declared a State of Disaster on Friday ahead of forecast worsening conditions, confirming 28 people remain unaccounted for in the state's bushfire areas. Many racing participants have joined a growing group of sporting athletes and organisations pledging support to help those affected, with a number of racetracks across the state being used as relief centres. Fire-affected families, horses and livestock have seeked refuge at the Bairnsdale Racing Club this week. While Monday's Wangaratta meeting has been transferred to Echuca, with the Wangaratta track needing to be made available if required for horses and livestock to be fed and watered.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Katie Page said the MM Carnival will be used as a platform to raise money, starting with the polo game.
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animals before people.
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Baghdad Bob
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THE current catastrophic bushfires happening over a large part of our country should not be blamed on climate change.
When we stopped doing backburning in the cooler months to mitigate the severity of fires in summer, we created an environment where one spark or a careless/ deliberate act could start an inferno. Instead of a smaller, more manageable fire, which could be quickly contained, there is so much fuel on the ground that it’s out of control before the firefighters can even get to the scene. All these inner-city greenies should volunteer to fight the fires to see just how environmentally unfriendly a major bushfire can be. Shirley Wiffrie, Croydon Hills We can lower the risk IF ever there was a time to talk about bushfires, it is now. I don’t know if the climate is changing due to burning coal, a natural cycle, or 7.8 billion people sharing the planet, but changing it appears to be — and the consequences for Australia are devastating. The nation cannot afford another bushfire season such as this. So what’s to be done about it? Here in Victoria our beautiful native forests need regular firebreaks, our farmers need to be able to clear dead wood from their paddocks and clear undergrowth, our councils/VicRoads need to clear roadsides. Let each landowner be allowed to take responsibility for fire prevention. And if we really mean business, bring water inland through the river systems, redirecting water from our tropics in the wet season. Come on, Canberra, think big. Sue Wilson, Korumburra Awful lesson to learn PERHAPS when these bushfires are put out, some blame may be put squarely at the feet of Green dominated councils whose bylaws prevent property owners from clearing away trees and fallen debris. As fires burn at the foot of the high country, it’s time cattle were allowed back in to eat the roughage on the ground and the now lost timber industry revived to keep open forest tracks for access, as well as having heavy machinery close by to keep tracks cleared. Past fires should be a reminder what has to be done, but alas red tape and ridiculous Green ideology keep putting lives at risk. P. Dunlop, Werribee Let’s get practical POLITICIANS wring their hands and pray for rain. Don’t they realise we get heaps of rain, just in the wrong places? For goodness sake, build dams, catch the annual floodwaters and pipe it to drought areas. Reintroduce grazing and burn-offs in national parks. Be proactive before the central Australian desert overwhelms the whole country. Hanson and Katter are the only two pollies who have been pushing for something useful to be done. Russell Mansfield, Patterson Lakes |
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Where are the Greens leadership in all of this? Have they been out to the fire grounds shaking hands and providing photo ops? Would be very interesting to see the reception they’d get.
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How true, Morrison has copped it on all fronts, yet Adam Bandt , Sarah Hanson-Young for starters have gone to ground. Where are they holidaying ?
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They aren't State Premiers or Prime Minister.
Gladys and Dan however have done a superb job doing what leaders are supposed to do in these times.
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Exactly PT.
However you rightards won't let go, will you? The people mentioned could be anywhere, more than likely with their sleeves rolled up rather than setting up photo shots and filming Liberal Part advertisements at a time like this.
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Neither is Albo PT . But he’s been going out to meet people who have been affected. I would have thought the Greens would have been there with bells on to show how popular they and their philosophy are.
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I dont know where they are Baguette, SHY is active on twitter this week putting out information, Bandt hasn't posted for a couple of weeks. Not sure anyone needs to hear from politicians not actively involved in any operations or official media work though. That applies to all sides of politics.
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Actually SHY tweeted this a couple of days ago. She may be like a lot of Australians at the moment, dealing with the aftermath.
My family’s property was ravaged by fire two days ago. Thankfully everyone is ok and safe for now. It has been scary as hell.
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You’re certainly right about that PT. I miss the pre social media days when we all pulled together in times of crisis and worried about the political fallout and finger pointing later . I see the usual suspects are organising protests in our capital cities next Friday. Starting at 5.30pm when they are all awake. Though the brave souls are very concerned about the smoke. Wear your masks! I’m sure the missing Green leadership will turn up for that. It’s in the inner city after all.
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They'd be understandably fearful for their safety, I'd suggest, warranted or not.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Well, they wont have any trees left to worry about now, and the horses in Kosi will be just about all gone, along with the frogs and rare swamp mosses, so wonder what they will focus on now ?
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animals before people.
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When in doubt or denial, just blame the Greens. That's far easier than recognizing and addressing the fundamental reasons for this awful situation.
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There are one hell of a lot like me who are not in denial. Because we know their policies have made it difficult to implement many factors that have had an impact on these fires. I dont do politics ( thats PT speciality ), but I know its happened over time, not overnight, and I have seen first hand how hard its become for people to even drop a dangerous tree, let alone the closure of parks to cattlemen , and many other things. Please dont keep posting your denial rubbish SC. You are worse than Whale with some of the things you say. We all know there are many reasons for this situation, but you can not exclude greens from some of the guilt. Try as you may.
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why do I get dragged into it ?
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My sister's home is in a lovely valley mainly used for dairying and beef cattle. The locals there wouldn't be pleased to be called "greenies" however they respect the environment and keep their properties clean and tidy with only the occasional belt of trees for shade. They're surrounded on both sides by steep native vegetation at the toe of the eastern ranges, however the largely inaccessible mountainous areas are generally a kilometre or more from housing and stock shelters.
Last night with heavy winds and low humidity a fire front moved more than 30 kilometres with live embers being thrown hundreds if not thousands of metres at a time. Today there's not a building left. Forty years of toil, memorabilia and memories up in smoke. And greenies had f-ck all to do with it. |
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But, but, but greenies... How can anyone taking this liar seriously? |
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Here are some views published in this morning's press, no they are not from politicians, journalists from the ABC or The Gaurdian or the Murdoch press,nor are they media personalities they are the silent majority
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6 per cent of wild fires are started by natural causes. So many of these fires
are started deliberately or result from people doing stupid things that get out
of control. Garry THE Kinglake fires of
February 2009 showed what the Greens’ changes to fuel reduction would do.
Nothing was done to reverse their stupidity. So 10 years on we have been given
the result of not changing the laws back to what makes sense. Ian HOW Victorian Premier
Daniel Andrews isn’t being held to account astonishes me. Andrew Oz I DO recall that after
Black Saturday the royal commission ended up with many recommendations. I’d
like to know how many of those recommendations have been adopted in IT’S the build-up of
fuel that seems to be the main cause and that’s a state responsibility. AshRegister LOCAL and state
governments are responsible for long-term fire management and regional zoning.
Severe drought leads to severe bushfires. Andrew WHY is everyone blaming
the Prime Minister? Each state is responsible for what is happening, not the
Prime Minister. Julie SEEMS a motivating
factor for not burning off is the impact on wildlife. I imagine that wildlife
has a better chance of escaping a slow burn-off than a raging bushfire. John IF
Victoria’s backburning policies need to be put under a microscope, and if it is
deemed that they have contributed to the outcome, then shine the spotlight on
the Greens and Labor. Jeff THE fact is that
emergency management has been a state responsibility and the demands for money
from the federal government just reflects the states’ passing the buck for
their own failures. Echidnajack EVEN the
recommendations of a royal commission in to the Black Saturday fires were not
enough to get the Victorian government to undertake adequate backburning
here. Cathryn WE need a return to forest/bush management to at
least give the bush, its residents and wildlife a fighting chance in the event
of seasonal bushfires. It’s high time that commonsense overruled the “greenie
city-dwellers” who have no understanding of the bush and how to manage and
protect it. Christine WHAT did CAN someone please ask
the Victorian state government how they are going with meeting the 5 per cent
yearly prescribed burn target that was recommended by the royal commission held
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Victorian fire chief says calls for more fuel reduction burns are an 'emotional load of rubbish'The Country Fire Authority's chief officer Steve Warrington said there was a "fair amount of emotion" around the issue. "We've had fire down the landscape here that has had burns go right through it [during colder months] and it hasn't slowed it at all," he said. The emotive argument is not supported that fuel reduction burning will fix all our problems. "Some of the hysteria that this will be the solution to all our problems is really just quite an emotional load of rubbish, to be honest." |
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NSW Commissioner Shane FitzSimmons said the same thing this morning. It is not the panaces, but part of an overall picture. |
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Barnaby has it sorted though, on 7 Sunrise today. Concrete doesn't burn, footpaths dont burn. Presumably his answer is to pave the whole country.
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reductio ad absurdum
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