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Just had one place over 900m in a Maiden at Mt Gambier - who on paper looks like she would want further.
ROSAFIORENTINA 3yo Chestnut Filly D.O.B: 28-Sep-2015 by FIORENTE (IRE) from ROSESTROEM |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Te Rapa race 4 Saturday first starter Floraison, 3yo filly Fiorente - Aseena.
Linebred to what may prove to be one of his stronger lines.
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Not sure what to make of this bloke. Don't want to knock him yet but he is struggling to get 30% w:r and barely has more than a handful of city winners. I wouldn't be enthusiastic in spending $25K this year .$10K last year was much more palatable.
Perhaps we have to wait until he has had 2 crops of 4y.o.'s complete their seasons His best two horses are full brothers. Their close relation Little Phoenix is struggling, but he doesn't have EDL in his pedigree Is it the Star Way line in EDL that is the conduit . Gives a cross of Neckar & thus makes 3lines of TICINO
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From earlier this year:
[QUOTE=Second Chance] Have looked up a lot of his mares and believe me more than a few have been extremely ordinary. ] /QUOTE]
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Well our racing need speed. But if you have a decent Encosta de Lago or Sadler's Well's line mare with that speed go for it. The bad percentage for staying type stallions is always going to happen here. We have 99% races 1600 and below. So speed is essential for the mare.
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He has one over in SA with a bit of a wrap on him
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This won't help his cause, thanks to Skydancer in another thread:
Lindsay Park co-trainer David Hayes lamented the sale of a potential star to Hong Kong. Group II winner Hawkshot will do his racing under the care of champion Hong Kong trainer John Size next season after Sun Bloodstock sold the three-year-old for an undisclosed sum. Hayes said Hawkshot, a son of the Melbourne Cup winner Fiorente, was far from the finished article but would have been one of the stable’s best performers in his four-year-old season. “I’m disappointed about it,” Hayes, who trained Hawkshot in partnership with his son Ben and nephew Tom Dabernig, said. “I was really excited about training him for next year, because I thought he would be my weight-for-age horse. “He was placed in the (Australian) Guineas, won the Autumn Stakes, didn’t go to Sydney to be spelled and looked magnificent.” Hayes said Hawkshot’s previous owner, the Sun Bloodstock operation, must have received a “ridiculous” offer to part with the winner of three of 10 starts. “He was raw and he would have been ready to show his best in the spring,” Hayes said. “He’ll be a big loss to the stable because he’s a very exciting horse.”
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Really nice boost for Fiorente today.
Hawkshot, who races as Beauty Legacy, made a winning debut in Hong Kong for John Size with Moreira on board. I'd been following his trials and he was looking great. He will be up in the Derby markets now. This could/should be the horse to put Fiorente's name up in lights. Fiorente has had a quiet patch the last 6-9 months. Tough stretch for a young staying sire who served some ordinary books. He has 8 in the Melb Premier Sale. 4 in the Top session and 4 in the Showcase session. I hope he can push on from here, he was a super racehorse, beautiful blood, and a ripper type. I'm a fan, but it is a tough tough market.
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Awesome ride by Joe on Hawkshot.
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Simon's Shoes is a descendant of Shepherdess, also ancestress of the German mare Kaiserwurde to whom Monsun is line-bred 5 X 5. Shepherdess' third dam Miss West also features in Monsun via the Prix de la Salamandre winner Blue Skies And later: What a fascinating pedigree Monsun, sire of Sun Stud's Fiorente has - aside from his 5 X 5 cross of Kaiserwurde, he is 7 X 7 Friar's Daughter and 7 X 6 Aversion - the latter is the grandam of Arjaman who appears three times in both Monsun's sire and dam. This is the Maid Of Masham family which also appears in Monsun via Burgeff, Alchimist, Aditi, Graf Isolani, Allgau and Asterus - whilst Arbar is in Fiorente's dam. Edited by Gay3 - 23 Oct 2020 at 12:49pm |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Both Fiorente and his Grandsire Konigsstuhl are Family 5h, they have different stains of 5h and none of them have the carry the "Rough Shod" branches in their pedigrees. This is where EDL(Fairy King) comes to play here and I believe this is the key to Fiorente's initial success. If you look at Monsun's Melbourne Cup winners barring Fiorente, they all carry either Nureyev, Sadlers Wells or both in their pedigrees. I think Sun Stud need to be more aggressive in attracting more mares with these stallions in their pedigrees.
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We have named our Fiorente x Carlaxna now gelding 3yo, He is called ' Seamus Son', Husbands choice, the Two Irish parents and the same name as his Grandson Seamus, so there we are. He is broken in, had a spell, had a conditioning prep at home on the treadmill, had another break and soon we'll be sending him off for a refresher with a breaker then into work. He is very beautiful like his sire. SC we should get the band back together, where are the Village people! I intend leasing out a few small shares.
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Well I wish you all the best Gaj with this young fella and those close to you too.
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all the best Gaj. a great thrill when you get them there. Cheers Slowdown
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Rebel - racing. Lionel - in work. Glory - spelling. Ray - spelling. A Wee Nip - in work.
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GAJ's fellow is by multiple Gp1 winner and successful sire Fiorente, from a mare who's has had three to race here for two winners and is herself sibling to an international Gp1 winner..
So why not send a PM to GAJ and enquire about leasing a small share. I certainly will be.
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Seamus Son. Set for pre training. Edited by Gay3 - 11 Oct 2021 at 12:28pm |
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nice Gaj. all the best
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Rebel - racing. Lionel - in work. Glory - spelling. Ray - spelling. A Wee Nip - in work.
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By gee he appears a real good type GAJ.
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Thanks, he is a good sort, considering he is just three days out of the paddock here, a quick tub, trim and grooming! Late in the day and he was on the toe, so couldn't get the perfect shots.
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A good looking lad, indeed! Please keep us updated GAJ
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From punters.com.au The winner of the 2013 Melbourne Cup, Fiorente, has died. "His 2013 Melbourne Cup win will always be remembered at Flemington through the sheer joy and emotions that the win provided. "His legacy will always be a part of Flemington and will continue through his daughter Lunar Flare who has secured her spot in the 2023 Lexus Melbourne Cup." Fiorente retired to stud in 2014, covering 186 mares in his first season. "We're all devastated," said Phil Marshall who has worked with Fiorente since his retirement to Sun Stud then Widden Victoria. "Fiorente was unbelievably tough, but at the same time an absolute gentleman. "The staff who knew him well are understandably shattered; he will be greatly missed not only by us but by the whole industry. "Throughout his career, he was able to produce horses with the same bravery and tenacity, which he had in spades." Fiorente leaves us as the sire of 148 winners, 15 stakes performers with progeny earnings of $15m including Group 2 winners Lunar Flare, Stars Of Carrum and Hawkshot. Edited by VSP. - 31 May 2023 at 2:17am |
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So very sad. Such a beauty.
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Here is a short Video of a lovely Colt by Fiorente, from Dandesha, one of the Aga Khan "D" family
She is a half sister to French Derby winner Darsi, who stands at one of the Aga Khan studs in France This fella was bred by Village identity, Oldflight Fiorente's best may be yet still to hit the tracks? love to see some more recent pics- vids ??? Colt by Fiorente from Dandesha (Fr), Dandesha's 1st Generation Pedigree below
Darashandeh, by Darshaan. Winner at 2, Evry Prix de la Haie Fleurie, 2d Saint-Cloud Prix Penelope, Gr.3, 4th Longchamp Prix Saint-Alary, Gr.1, Saint-Cloud Prix de Flore, Gr.3. Half-sister to DARALIMARA, DARAYDALA, Darakiyla, Daralbayda (dam of DARKARA), Daraliya (dam of CIRCASSIAN), Darandala - Mita Aewidah (Sau.), Daralaka (dam of DARGHAR - BEYOND EXPECTATION (SING.)). Dam of 8 foals, 6 to race, all winners, inc:-
DARSI (c by Polish Precedent). 3 wins-1 at 2-from 1600m to 2500m, €923,101, Chantilly Prix du Jockey Club, Gr.1, Prix de Courteuil, 2d Longchamp Prix de Ferrieres. Sire.
Darsha (f by Sakhee). 2 wins at 2200m, 3000m, €84,350, Deauville Prix du Journal le Pays d'Auge, 2d Deauville Prix Minerve, Gr.3, 3d Longchamp Prix de Royallieu, Gr.2, Saint-Cloud Prix Joubert, L. Dam of 3 winners-
Darbadar. 4 wins from 2000m to 2500m in France and Aust, Chantilly Prix de Villevert, 4th Longchamp Prix Chaudenay, Gr.2.
Yumeno Saki. 2 wins at 2100m, 2400m to 2021 in Japan.
Bokuwa Charlie. 2 wins at 1300m, 1600m in Japan.
Darannda. Raced twice. Dam of-
Darenndi. Winner at 2500m in 2020, Deauville Prix de Precolette.
Dashtaki (c by Night Shift (USA)). 2 wins at 1300m, 1600m, Maisons-Laffitte Prix des Falaises de Craie, 2d Longchamp Prix Restaurant Fouquet's Barriere, 3d Toulouse Prix Mitsubishi Electric.
Darma (f by Danehill Dancer (Ire)). Winner at 2, Chantilly Prix de Toutevoie. Dam of 2 winners-
DARIYMA (f City Zip) 3 wins at 2000m, 2100m, €93,165, to 2020, Chantilly Prix de la Pepiniere, L, Prix de Montleveque, 2d Saint-Cloud Prix Solitude, L, 3d ParisLongchamp Prix Dollar, Gr.2, 4th Deauville Prix Jean Romanet, Gr.1, ParisLongchamp Prix du Conseil de Paris, Gr.2, La Coupe de Maisons-Laffitte, Gr.3.
Deremah (f More Than Ready) Winner at 2200m, 2d Saint-Cloud Prix Joubert, L, Chantilly Prix des Layons, 3d Maisons-Laffitte Prix Charles Laffitte, L.
Dandesha (f by Dansili). Winner. See below.
Darasa (f by Barathea (Ire)). Winner at 2200m in France. Dam of 7 winners-
MARCETI (g Verglas) 5 wins-2 at 2-from 1600m to 2700m, €165,895, Nantes Derby de l'Ouest, L, Prix des Sablonnets, L, 2d Grand Prix de la Ville de Craon-Mayenne, L, Saint-Cloud Prix Nino, 3d Bordeaux Derby du Midi, L, Chantilly Prix du Chemin Saint Christophe, 4th Saint-Cloud Prix Francois Mathet, L, Vichy Prix Frederic de Lagrange, L.
Daffodil Fields. 5 wins from 1800m to 2500m, €115,220, Cagnes-sur-Mer Prix Rauba Capeu, 2d Saint-Cloud Prix de la Moselle, Cagnes-sur-Mer Prix Rauba Capeu, 3d Deauville Prix de la Suisse Normande. Dam of-
Belgian Prince. 2 wins at 2500m, 2600m to 2021, 3d Saint-Cloud Prix de Provence.
Darjani. 5 wins from 2000m to 2400m, €179,050, Marseille Borely Prix All is Vanity, Grand Handicap de Lyon, Saint-Cloud Prix Finasseur, Prix Sassafras.
Deep Snow. 3 wins from 2400m to 3100m, Saint-Cloud Prix de Chaville.
Urban River. 2 wins at 3000m, 3400m, Deauville Prix des Belloquois.
Durano. 4 wins from 2000m to 2500m, 2d Chantilly Prix des Dauphines.
Silver Dash. 3 wins at 1750m, 2200m in 2020 in Sweden.
Delisha (f by Highest Honor). Unraced. Dam of 2 winners-
Deliya. Winner at 1600m in Aust. Edited by Take2 - 07 Jul 2023 at 3:01pm |
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change is simply a destination on a journey reached by taking the first step (i said that) lol
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Bit of substance about him.
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