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of course I do.  We just give up sending them over a distance if they fail the first time.  Which can and does happen.  
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Due to new page, furious reply above relates to this:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Well in Australia Sidestep has a Golden Slipper winner.  Last week he got a 2400m stakes winner in France.  Mind you he had Quest for Fame and Handy Proverb to give him stamina genes to go with the speed of Exceed and Excel but I've seen Exceed and Excel's out over a distance overseas also.

While Fastnet was had set winning over 1200m he has sired classic winners and Atlantic Jewel is out of a Zabeel mare.  

Maybe we should just look at the fact our trainers can get really good speed out of stayers!

You don't think horses need speed to be top class stayers ?
Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Nice to see something on AJ and showing on a bit after racing !!! had wondered Smile
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Totally agree mate.  
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Russian Emperor WILL win The Derby.

2 years in a row an Aussie mare has provided the winner of the worlds most coveted Derby.

It is the trainers that is this nations problem with middle distance and longer.
Residual benefits of Kav's 'feed' regime?
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EMPIREOFTHEDRAGON (IRE) (Late: YULONG DRAGON (IRE))

5yo Brown Gelding
D.O.B: 25-Mar-2015
by GALILEO (IRE)  from ATLANTIC JEWEL
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Owner’s Details  Mr M P Collett
Stewards Embargoes None on record
Last Gear Change* 22-Jun-2020, Bandages (Front), First Time
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CareerSummary: 0-0:0:0    Prizemoney: $0    
1st Up: 0:0-0-0    2nd Up: 0:0-0-0    
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That was quick

He was a scratching for Ballarat on Sunday
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Roman Emperor runs 7th in the Derby.
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Certainly been to a few trainers


EMPIREOFTHEDRAGON (IRE) (LATE: YULONG DRAGON (IRE))

5yo Brown Gelding
D.O.B: 25-Mar-2015
by GALILEO (IRE)  from ATLANTIC JEWEL
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Owner’s Details Mr M P Collett
Stewards EmbargoesNone on record
Last Gear Change*22-Jun-2020, Bandages (Front), First Time
TrainerMr Robert Hickmott (Caulfield)
Racing ColoursDark Purple, Gold Lotus Flower, Diamonds Sleeves, Seams Cap
CareerSummary: 0-0:0:0    Prizemoney: $0    
1st Up: 0:0-0-0    2nd Up: 0:0-0-0    
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 0:0-0-0     Soft: 0:0-0-0     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0


 
Training information change: David & B Hayes & T Dabernig to Nathan Dunn
Training information change: Nathan Dunn to Barry Muddle
Training information change: Barry Muddle to Helen White
Training information change: Helen White to Robert Hickmott
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Hmm, the bottom part didn't show and clearly still won't, so I'll retype it
Trainer changed from Hayes, Hayes & Dabernig to Nathan Dunn
Trainer changed from Nathan Dunn to Barry Muddle
Trainer changed from Barry Muddle to Helen White
Trainer changed from Helen White to Robert Hickmott


Training information change: David & B Hayes & T Dabernig to Nathan Dunn
Training information change: Nathan Dunn to Barry Muddle
Training information change: Barry Muddle to Helen White
Training information change: Helen White to Robert Hickmott
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And nominated for Ballarat on Sunday and Murtoa on Monday.
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Ballarat Sunday moved to Moonee Valley
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Empireofthedragon finally making his debut today
Swan Hill R3 1600m maiden

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Finished last.


He's in his sixth stable, has undergone a couple of name changes and next week technically turns six years of age in Australia, but the first foal of Atlantic Jewel is finally set to debut.

Empireofthedragon, a product of a union between legendary stallion Galileo and the former champion Australian mare, steps out in the $31,500 TAC Maiden Plate at Swan Hill on Friday.

It comes more than 18 months after he landed in Australia, but less than a month after taking up residence with Caulfield trainer Robert Hickmott, who expects to learn plenty about the gelding in the 1600-metre event.

"I've only had him for three weeks and he's done nothing but please me since he's come into the stable," Hickmott said.

"He's a beautiful horse to deal with and he's a fully-set Galileo, so hopefully there's some upside there."

A debut assignment at Swan Hill - coincidentally, where Atlantic Jewel's Caulfield Guineas-winning sister Commanding Jewel made her debut - would have been long odds when Empireofthedragon was foaled in Ireland on March 25, 2015.

Initially trained by Aidan O'Brien, Empireofthedragon left the Irish maestro's care with a number of other regally bred performers when part of a bulk purchase by Yulong in late 2018.

He was entrusted to Lindsay Park, where he was known as Yulong Dragon, before a change of scenery was deemed necessary, which resulted in a stint with Nathan Dunn at Cranbourne.

He was with Dunn until October last year, when he was sold for $5000 to Caliber Racing in an online sale and was transferred to Barry Muddle at Kyneton.

Once again operating under the name Empireofthedragon, he remained in Kyneton until he found his way to Hickmott but had been transferred from Muddle to Helen White in the interim.

Empireofthedragon was entered for multiple races when in White's care around the time Atlantic Jewel's son Russian Emperor was going around one of the leading fancies at Royal Ascot and while he never accepted, he was due to debut at Ballarat on June 28 only to be scratched.

Empireofthedragon took up residence with Hickmott not long after that and, as former head trainer for Lloyd Williams, one thing he is familiar with is products of Galileo, with Hickmott describing him as a 'typical Galileo'.

"The mile first-up will be no worries for him," Hickmott said.

"I'd love him to win for the owner, because he has been a bit of a project horse."

Empireofthedragon, who has been $13 into $10 with BetEasy, has drawn barrier six and will be ridden by Brad Rawiller in what is the third race on the Mildura Cup program.

One of his rivals is another of the Coolmore shipment to Yulong - Yulong Song - who will be having his second start of his second preparation for Lindsay Park.

Yulong Song, who was known as Memphis when he landed in Australia, is another son of Galileo who is out of the Congrats mare Turbulent Descent.

That makes him a brother to Spanish Steps, winner of the Group 3 Ballyroan Stakes at Leopardstown in August 2017, who subsequently came to Australia but was unplaced in three runs for Williams.

Yulong Song also landed in Australia unraced and finished second to Flag Edition at Benalla on debut before a fourth placing to Aussie Nugget at Seymour ahead of a spell, with his first-up run producing a fifth of 12, as a $2.30 favourite, over 1400m at Wangaratta on June 29.

Yulong Song is a $5.50 chance in BetEasy's market, which is headed by the Andrew Noblet-trained Legend Of Zorro ($2.45), who has finished second at his past two starts.

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Russian Emperor just won the HH The Amir's Sword and Trophy in Qatar beating a very good quality field.
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