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The Japanese handicapper gave 129. They are the ones that downgrade them.
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The colonies and the 'foreigners' pander and toe the line to appease the masters. 
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Not really. Our horses are well and truly overly and wrongly rated. Greg Carpenter punches above his weight at these shindigs.
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G1 WS Cox Plate winner Lys Gracieux has been named Japan's 2019 Horse of the Year in a landslide, garnering 271 of the 274 votes from Japanese racing journalists!
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https://www.racenet.com.au/news/cox-plate-winner-lys-gracieux-two-points-off-the-top-of-the-world-20200123

Here is confirmation of the joke that is the international ratings. Lys Gracieux for devastatingly winning the arima kinen rates the same as Baataash for winning the nunthorpe.
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TOKYO 11R

THE TOKYO YUSHUN (JAPANESE DERBY)(G1)


May 31, 2020, 2400m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT C&F DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds, Open Class, Value of race: 418,140,000 Yen


1st2nd3rd4th5thtotal
Added Money (Yen)200,000,00080,000,00050,000,00030,000,00020,000,000380,000,000
Stakes Money (Yen)26,698,0007,628,0003,814,0000038,140,000
Total (Yen)226,698,00087,628,00053,814,00030,000,00020,000,000418,140,000

BkHsHorseSex
Age		Weight
(Kg)		Sire
Dam		Dam's sire
Dam's dam		Jockey
Trainer		Owner
Breeder		Win
Fav		Win
Odds
11Satono Impresa(JPN)
C3
57.0Deep Impact
Sahpresa		Sahm
Sorpresa		Ryusei Sakai
Yogelatio Yahagi		Satomi Horse Company Co. Ltd.
Shadai Farm

12Al Jannah(JPN)
C3
57.0Deep Impact
Condo Commando		Tiz Wonderful
Yearly Report		Suguru Hamanaka
Yasutoshi Ikee		Katsumi Yoshida
Northern Farm

23Wakea(JPN)
C3
57.0Heart's Cry
Cherry Collect		Oratorio
Holy Moon		Christophe Lemaire
Takahisa Tezuka		Yukihiro Ochiai
Northern Racing

24L'Excellence(JPN)
C3
57.0Deep Impact
Xcellence		Champs Elysees
Xanadu Bliss		Shu Ishibashi
Manabu Ikezoe		Silk Racing Co. Ltd.
Northern Racing

35Contrail(JPN)
C3
57.0Deep Impact
Rhodochrosite		Unbridled's Song
Folklore		Yuichi Fukunaga
Yogelatio Yahagi		Shinji Maeda
North Hills Co . Ltd.

36Weltreisende(JPN)
C3
57.0Dream Journey
Mandela		Acatenango
Mandellicht		Kenichi Ikezoe
Yasutoshi Ikee		Sunday Racing Co. Ltd.
Northern Racing

47Black Hole(JPN)
C3
57.0Gold Ship
Viva Bouquet		King Kamehameha
Blue Ridge River		Yukito Ishikawa
Ikuo Aizawa		Seichi Serizawa
Seiichi Serizawa

48Bitterender(JPN)
C3
57.0Orfevre
Bitter Sweet		Afleet Alex
Moonlight Gardens		Akihide Tsumura
Ikuo Aizawa		K.Hidaka Breeders Union
Sakurai Bokujo

59Darlington Hall(GB)
C3
57.0New Approach
Miss Kenton		Pivotal
Do The Honours		Mirco Demuro
Tetsuya Kimura		Godolphin
Canning Bloodstock Ltd

510Cortesia(JPN)
C3
57.0Symboli Kris S
Ciel et Mer		Jungle Pocket
Ponderosa		Kohei Matsuyama
Takashi Suzuki		Koji Maeda
North Hills Co . Ltd.

611Galore Creek(JPN)
C3
57.0Kinshasa no Kiseki
Gold Relic		Kingmambo
Gold Bust		Yuga Kawada
Hiroyuki Uehara		Yukio Mizukami
Kasamatsu Bokujo

612Salios(JPN)
C3
57.0Heart's Cry
Salomina		Lomitas
Saldentigerin		Damian Lane
Noriyuki Hori		Silk Racing Co. Ltd.
Northern Racing

713Deep Bond(JPN)
C3
57.0Kizuna
Zephyranthes		King Halo
Mogami Hime		Ryuji Wada
Ryuji Okubo		Shinji Maeda
Murata Bokujo

714My Rhapsody(JPN)
C3
57.0Heart's Cry
Teddy's Promise		Salt Lake
Braids and Beads		Norihiro Yokoyama
Yasuo Tomomichi		Kieffers Co. Ltd.
Northern Racing

715Satono Flag(JPN)
C3
57.0Deep Impact
Balada Sale		Not For Sale
La Balada		Yutaka Take
Sakae Kunieda		Satomi Horse Company Co. Ltd.
Northern Farm

816Man of Spirit(JPN)
C3
57.0Rulership
Sunday Smile		Sunday Silence
Sensation		Yuichi Kitamura
Takashi Saito		Hoshino Racing
Northern Farm

817Valcos(JPN)
C3
57.0Novellist
Land's Edge		Dance in the Dark
Wind In Her Hair		Kosei Miura
Yasuo Tomomichi		Kazuhiro Sasaki
Northern Farm

818Win Carnelian(JPN)
C3
57.0Screen Hero
Cosmo Crystal		Meiner Love
Christian Name		Hironobu Tanabe
Yuichi Shikato		Win Co. Ltd.
Cosmo View Farm
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Five starters by Deep Impact, three by Heart's Cry, and altogether no less than thirteen of eighteen from the Sunday Silence sire line.
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Contrail is very very good
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TOKYO 11R

THE TOKYO YUSHUN (JAPANESE DERBY)(G1)


May 31, 2020, 2400m, Turf Firm, Cloudy, Post time 15:40
INT C&F DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds, Open Class, Value of race: 418,140,000 Yen


1st2nd3rd4th5thtotal
Added Money (Yen)200,000,00080,000,00050,000,00030,000,00020,000,000380,000,000
Stakes Money (Yen)26,698,0007,628,0003,814,0000038,140,000
Total (Yen)226,698,00087,628,00053,814,00030,000,00020,000,000418,140,000

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Age		Weight
(Kg)		Finish
(1/10s)		MarginWin
Fav		Win
Odds
1st35Contrail(JPN)
C3
57.02:24.1
11.4
2nd612Salios(JPN)
C3
57.02:24.6324.4
3rd36Weltreisende(JPN)
C3
57.02:24.91 3/41066.4
4th11Satono Impresa(JPN)
C3
57.02:24.9HD963.4
5th713Deep Bond(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.01/2861.6
6th611Galore Creek(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.0NS751.6
7th47Black Hole(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.0NS17211.2
8th23Wakea(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.13/4312.8
9th714My Rhapsody(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.2NK1187.7
10th48Bitterender(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.2HD1391.2
11th715Satono Flag(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.31/2416.5
12th510Cortesia(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.43/414131.5
13th59Darlington Hall(GB)
C3
57.02:25.51/2530.3
14th817Valcos(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.5HD646.4
15th24L'Excellence(JPN)
C3
57.02:25.71 1/418213.5
16th816Man of Spirit(JPN)
C3
57.02:26.01 3/416179.7
17th818Win Carnelian(JPN)
C3
57.02:26.21 1/415141.0
18th12Al Jannah(JPN)
C3
57.02:26.33/41288.8

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Dam		Dam's sire
Dam's dam		Jockey
Trainer		Owner
Breeder
1stContrail(JPN)Deep Impact
Rhodochrosite		Unbridled's Song
Folklore		Yuichi Fukunaga
Yogelatio Yahagi		Shinji Maeda
North Hills Co . Ltd.
2ndSalios(JPN)Heart's Cry
Salomina		Lomitas
Saldentigerin		Damian Lane
Noriyuki Hori		Silk Racing Co. Ltd.
Northern Racing
3rdWeltreisende(JPN)Dream Journey
Mandela		Acatenango
Mandellicht		Kenichi Ikezoe
Yasutoshi Ikee		Sunday Racing Co. Ltd.
Northern Racing
4thSatono Impresa(JPN)Deep Impact
Sahpresa		Sahm
Sorpresa		Ryusei Sakai
Yogelatio Yahagi		Satomi Horse Company Co. Ltd.
Shadai Farm
5thDeep Bond(JPN)Kizuna
Zephyranthes		King Halo
Mogami Hime		Ryuji Wada
Ryuji Okubo		Shinji Maeda
Murata Bokujo
6thGalore Creek(JPN)Kinshasa no Kiseki
Gold Relic		Kingmambo
Gold Bust		Yuga Kawada
Hiroyuki Uehara		Yukio Mizukami
Kasamatsu Bokujo
7thBlack Hole(JPN)Gold Ship
Viva Bouquet		King Kamehameha
Blue Ridge River		Yukito Ishikawa
Ikuo Aizawa		Seichi Serizawa
Seiichi Serizawa
8thWakea(JPN)Heart's Cry
Cherry Collect		Oratorio
Holy Moon		Christophe Lemaire
Takahisa Tezuka		Yukihiro Ochiai
Northern Racing
9thMy Rhapsody(JPN)Heart's Cry
Teddy's Promise		Salt Lake
Braids and Beads		Norihiro Yokoyama
Yasuo Tomomichi		Kieffers Co. Ltd.
Northern Racing
10thBitterender(JPN)Orfevre
Bitter Sweet		Afleet Alex
Moonlight Gardens		Akihide Tsumura
Ikuo Aizawa		K.Hidaka Breeders Union
Sakurai Bokujo
11thSatono Flag(JPN)Deep Impact
Balada Sale		Not For Sale
La Balada		Yutaka Take
Sakae Kunieda		Satomi Horse Company Co. Ltd.
Northern Farm
12thCortesia(JPN)Symboli Kris S
Ciel et Mer		Jungle Pocket
Ponderosa		Kohei Matsuyama
Takashi Suzuki		Koji Maeda
North Hills Co . Ltd.
13thDarlington Hall(GB)New Approach
Miss Kenton		Pivotal
Do The Honours		Mirco Demuro
Tetsuya Kimura		Godolphin
Canning Bloodstock Ltd
14thValcos(JPN)Novellist
Land's Edge		Dance in the Dark
Wind In Her Hair		Kosei Miura
Yasuo Tomomichi		Kazuhiro Sasaki
Northern Farm
15thL'Excellence(JPN)Deep Impact
Xcellence		Champs Elysees
Xanadu Bliss		Shu Ishibashi
Manabu Ikezoe		Silk Racing Co. Ltd.
Northern Racing
16thMan of Spirit(JPN)Rulership
Sunday Smile		Sunday Silence
Sensation		Yuichi Kitamura
Takashi Saito		Hoshino Racing
Northern Farm
17thWin Carnelian(JPN)Screen Hero
Cosmo Crystal		Meiner Love
Christian Name		Hironobu Tanabe
Yuichi Shikato		Win Co. Ltd.
Cosmo View Farm
18thAl Jannah(JPN)Deep Impact
Condo Commando		Tiz Wonderful
Yearly Report		Suguru Hamanaka
Yasutoshi Ikee		Katsumi Yoshida
Northern Farm
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Hello,
interestingly 3 of the Starters of thze "Japanese Derby" have a German Connection, see
Weltreisende (Dream Journey)-Mandela (Acatenango)-Mandellicht.
the Family of "Manduro"
Salios (Heart Cry)-Salomina(Lomitas)-Saldentigerin (Tiger Hill)
Family of "Schwarzgold", already represented in Japan by "Manhattan Cafe".
Valcos (Novellist)-Land's Edge (Dance in the Dark)-Wind in her Hair.
Novellist was a Top Race Horse in my Country and the Granddam won in Germany the Group 1, "Aral Pokal" (2400 meter).
 
As I see Weltreisende was Third and Salios second in the Japanese Derby.
 
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and both ran very well Ticino 
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from an Aussie perspective I see that our champion Carbine features in the winner’s pedigree way, way, back
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Daring Tact emerged from a line of rivals in the final 100 meters of the G1 Shuka Sho this weekend at Kyoto Racecourse and ran on strongly to win by 1 1/4 lengths, becoming the first undefeated Japanese filly Triple Crown winner.

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Contrail, the Deep Impact colt out of the Unbridled's Song mare Rhodochrosite became the eighth Japanese Triple Crown winner but the first to do so undefeated winning in a hard fought victory the last leg the G1 Kikuka Sho (Japanese St. Leger) at Kyoto Racecourse over 3,000 metres.
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Shrunk in the Wash, above, maybe tongue in check but by now Carbine's usually there closer to 50 times.  Well that's what happened with the Cox Plate winner.  To be honest I haven't checked the above pedigree!
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Can Contrail remain undefeated after the Japan Cup? Fair effort if he can, great field.
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What a great way for Almond Eye to finish her career. 11 wins from 15 starts.
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One of the GOATs
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Beats the fillies who were both unbeaten in 12 starts between them before today.
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Am hoping someone more gifted than I can load the race replay/video for us all.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Beats the fillies who were both unbeaten in 12 starts between them before today.


One colt (Contrail), one filly (Daring Tact)
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Am hoping someone more gifted than I can load the race replay/video for us all.

Hi mate,

Please see below the 2020 G1 Japan Cup (2400m WFA).





Edited by Gay3 - 30 Nov 2020 at 7:54am
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Great win today by Leo Papale , by Deep Impact , was arrogant the defeat the likes of Salios,  Contrail, and Gran Allegra could this be Japan's elusive Arc  winner Remains unbeaten all be it on a soft track . 
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The white filly, Sodashi, (3f Kurofune - Buchiko, by King Kamehameha) has won the G1 Oka Sho (Japanese 1000 Guineas) having previously tasted Grade One success as a 2yo in the Hanshin Juvenile Fillies.
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What a stunning looking horse
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The G1 Tokyo Yushun (Japanese Derby) has been won by Shahryar  (3c  Deep Impact - Dubai Majesty, by Essence Of Dubai) who finished strongly to just overhaul the favourite, Efforia.

The winner is a full brother to dual G1 winner, Al Ain.
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