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Wasn’t Mike Willesee in PTS?
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Joshua Reynolds is back from a long spell, now with Eric Musgrove
Nominated for Pakenham on Thurs Night
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Clearly aces over two miles or more are in prospect Shawy.
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8g Fastnet Rock x Wiener (More Than Ready (USA)) Foaled October 11, 2013 Career: 33 starts, 7 - 7 - 1 $154,525 Trainer: D R Pateman, Karnup Ownership: Gangemi Thoroughbreds, A C McGrath,genuine Stayers Synd, Acewell Holdings Synd , Ms S Bush-King, J J Gunning, M A A Ohlmus, R J Wade, N Gleeson, S Fraser, Mrs L M Graham, A B Da Prato, A Artaud, K Hassan, K R Gartrell, M P Delaney, Different Strokes Synd , K O'Connor, Clas Synd, S&G Thoroughbreds Shackleton is a 8 year old gelding by Fastnet Rock out of the More Than Ready mare, Wiener. He has had 33 starts for 7 wins with the latest start being today when 1st at Port Hedland on August 1, 2021 in the The Richardson Family (Bm68+) over 1200 metres. Sale DetailsLot 251 2015 Inglis Australian Easter Yearling Sale Vendor: Kitchwin Hills, Scone Buyer: G Waterhouse / Coolmore / Stonestreet Stables $1,350,000 |
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Mount Fuji for sale on Inglis Digital unreserved
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Mount Fuji sells for 75k to Heinrich Racing
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There was another one go around at Warwick Farm in Race 1.
OVOID cost $1m at Magic Millions Debuted with a 5th of 6 at Newcastle beaten 12 lens. Then resumed from a break with a 4th of 10 at Newcastle. Flopped again today with a 7th of 9 at W.Farm where the winner was an $80k yearling, with the $1m colt toiling 6 lengths behind. |
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Magic Millions is schoolies for grown ups......that sums it up, mine's bigger than yours, and by the last day and sorosis of the liver sets in, I can't go away without one.........what a giant wank,,,,,,just making Harvey richer, the real sale is Syd summer, when you buy yourself a very nice horse without the 'tag'.
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No doubt will appear online in coming weeks.
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Can Ovoid have run a worse race today?? Don’t think so. How to burn one million.
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Magic Millions Million Dollar yearling 2010 onwards. 2020 69 - Zarastro - promising 80 - Journalism - gelded - unlikely 255 - Wizard Of Oz - a little promise - Banished 354 - Military Expert - Verry promising 364 - Greater Harlem - Banished 385 - Profondo - Potential superstar 434 - Queen Of The Green - Unraced 640 - Plagiarized - unraced 749 - California Gallant - trialled 784 - Ovoid - still intact - highly unlikely 2019 10 - California Sky - exported to Hong Kong probable profit 34 - Prague - stakes winning $15000 stallion 94 mares 72 - Close To Me - failure 204 - Volterra - failure banished to the bush 320 - Yulong Code - gelded - unlikely 374 - Stay Wealthy - gelded - unlikely 379 - Lambardi - Failure - banished to the bush 417 - King's Legacy - 2 x group 1 winning stallion ***** 446 - UNNAMED 802 - Jadida - failure 869 - Strategy - gelded - unlikely 2018 239 - Duty - Gelded failure 373 - Faretti - gelded failure 480 - Grand Admiral - gelded failure 591 - Petronius - gelded fake sale failure 624 - Stark - failure - retired still intact ? 647 - Rome - gelded failure 686 - Supercharge unraced failure 733 - Evening Slippers - failure - broodmare 830 - Arousal - failure - broodmare 2017 339 - Maybach - failure 409 - Adana - gelded - failure 419 - Sangfroid colt - UNNAMED 651 - Tchaikovsky - showed stacks of promise before being gelded and a complete failure 765 - Angel - failure - 1 foal gelded Rocket Boy 2016 233 - Showtime - 2 x group 2 winner - $10,000 stallion 279 mares 430 - Chauffeur - $723,000 prize money flop 448 - Notting Hill - failure - broodmare 476 - Dracarys - failure - $6000 Stallion 184 mares 612 - Plato - failure exported 672 - Lady Cartier - failure - broodmare with a future 2015 566 - Altar Call - failure - broodmare 613 - Ready Fire - failure - exported 2014 434 - Red Knot - gelded failure. 2013 251 - Valentia - failure - $7000 stallion 239 mares 2011 564 - Laughing Lad - failure |
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reductio ad absurdum
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at least some of them lived up to the expectations! I guess at that end it would be nice to see more return but this isn't an exact science no matter how you pick them.
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But I do agree with one comment a trainer said. The ones who are born with that great pedigree and good looks are kept in cotton wool to keep them that way. And this is a sport where you need them to be tough.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Reminds me of Widden who traditionally had big paddocks with feed time at one end and water at the other. Keeps the youngsters on the move and helps build sound, strong bone and joints.
You can more than occasionally identify the cotton wool types at the sales: frequently lacking real grunt before being pumped up during sale preparation. And it's why it helps to inspect youngsters (if allowed) before they commence preparation for sale.
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Harron buy many fillies?
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Yeh he does. He has broodmares
He has as his website says Elite colt partnerships, Elite filly partnerships and elite broodmare partnerships. I wonder of all his investors how many have a percentage in all ? That is the only way I suspect you could hope to win.
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Mostly colts though. Selling the dream of race success but rather more potential stallion syndication. And has done ok or better.
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To me that is all expensive colts are about potential stallions.
Like Sangster and his crew in the 70s buy a heap and hope one or two pay for the on going fun.
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What Are They Really Worth – Inglis DigitalTara Madgwick - Tuesday January 18 The recent Inglis Digital January (early) online sale featured a significant clean out of geldings from the Chris Waller stable presenting a golden opportunity for other trainers to buy fully educated blue--bloods with plenty of racing still in them albeit not at a stakes level. Captivare was the most expensive I Am Invincible colt sold in 2019. A $1.4million Inglis Easter purchase in 2019, four year-old I Am Invincible gelding Captivare was bought by Steven O’Dea Racing for $80,000 so will do his future racing in Brisbane. A lone win and seven placings from 15 starts has netted $75,000 and change, which he can no doubt improve on in easier grade. A $1.1million Magic Millions purchase, three year-old Exceed and Excel gelding Wizard of Oz sold for $50,000 to Jack Colley, while $900,000 2020 Karaka sale-topper Postulate (Pierro) sold for $16,000 to Hiwi Lodge. $500,000 Magic Millions purchase Rhythmboat (Exceed and Excel) was bought by Luke and Natalie Jarvis for $37,500, $500,000 Inglis Easter purchase Turgenev (I Am Invincible) was bought by D Templeton for $25,000 and $600,000 Inglis Easter purchase Zudin( Redoute’s Choice) was bought by Lauri Wray Racing for $42,500. Click to see all the results from the latest Inglis Digital January (early) Online Sale. |
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Bill Boulder a possible runner in the 2YO race on Saturday at the Valley.
Would be the first starter for Boulder City, unraced $2.3m yearling half-bro to Winx. I believe injury and not lack of talent ended his racing career before it started though. Funnily enough he stands at the same stud as Prince Of Caviar who if he was sold at auction would no doubt be on this list.
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I think Prince Of Caviar was a far superior horse to what we got to see on the track.
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Boulder City buggered his tendons, was lucky to survive.
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A horse who set his owners back $1.7 million as a yearling will be sold as a tried horse in next week's Inglis Digital online sale. Strategy, a four-year-old son of I Am Invincible out of Stakes-winning Snitzel mare Oakleigh Girl, is catalogued as Lot 59 in the sale and currently has a $900 bid ahead of Wednesday's deadline. Originally purchased by a group of heavy hitters including trainer Lloyd Kennewell, Aquis, Ozzie Kheir and Group 1 Bloodstock at the Magic Millions Gold Coast Yearling Sale, the galloper has so far failed to live up to his price tag on the track, with his two wins yielding $66,000 in prizemoney and a rating of 61. Shares in Strategy had previously been offered via Inglis Digital last May, after the horse was gelded. Other highlights in the current Inglis Digital catalogue include last-start Sydney winner Kinghsier, Lindsey Smith's untapped four-year-old Money For Old Rope and well-bred gelding Yulong Code, who won at Pakenham on Thursday night. |
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Lloyd does not have much luck with these expensive horses.
That said, these expensive I Am Invincibles are proving just that, expensive.
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More money than sense
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Strategy sells for $32,500 to Logan McGill
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Logan has a reputation for "improving" horses.
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Inglis Digital Lot 342 - Oceanity (Snitzel-Slice of Paradise) for sale as a Stallion prospect.
DescriptionOceanity is offered for unreserved sale by his owners. The son of Snitzel who is an entire who was a $1million yearling purchase at the Inglis Easter yearling sale. As you can image he is a smashing type out of the black type family of Slice Of Paradice, Alinghi,and Beneteau. Oceanity raced 6 times for a win and 4 placings including a close second at Sandown over 1000m beaten 0.4 lengths. He had tendon issues and after a long rehabilitation he ran 3rd in a Cranbourne barrier trial on Feb 7th 2022 but pulled up sore the next day. He has a great attitude and would make an ideal stallion for a small farm.
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