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djebel
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Hey, I am happy for them all to carry the same weight no matter what their age or sex. But WFA is as close as we get to set weights.
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reductio ad absurdum
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JudgeHolden
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If you posted it, BF, you know where it is. And I won't have to look. So where is it?
But I suppose the forum owes you a debt of gratitude. You have provided us with the crucial information that if you give a horse enough weight it may eventually be beaten. I do hope everyone else will be using this to the betterment of themselves as punters. I know I'll try to take it on board. Whenever you find that link get back to me.
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jujuno
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John's new initiative...the compression suit...
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Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
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A Mug Owner
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How do they put the compression suit on ? Looks like it would be difficult with a uncooperative horse.
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A Mug Owner
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jujuno
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carefully...
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Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
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jujuno
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FLEMINGTON racegoers did a double-take when they saw champion sprinter Hay List being paraded in a wetsuit after his Newmarket Handicap triumph on Saturday. That is what the $900 garment looks like, although it is in fact made of a revolutionary moisture-management fabric. It is the latest and most unusual piece of cutting-edge technology designed to assist the thoroughbred's recovery from races and strenuous training gallops. Because Hay List has had his share of injury problems over the years, trainer John McNair thought it was worth a try. "It is basically like a compression suit," McNair said. "You see a lot of cyclists, footballers and other sports people use them. They are designed to aid recovery, help with muscle fatigue. "We have been using them on Hay List for a couple of weeks now and it makes a huge difference." The compression suits are made by Hidez, a firm in Windsor on Sydney's northwestern outskirts. The Hidez Recovery Suit uses a "graduated compression method which helps circulation and supplies more oxygen to all the muscle groups". It claims to enhance blood flow, reduce the onset of muscle soreness, and speed up recovery. So just how is the suit fitted to a racehorse? "There are zippers everywhere and it takes about 90 seconds to put it on," McNair said. "There are designs in place to introduce a variation of the suit that enables a horse to wear it at trackwork so that you can monitor its heart rate, breathing - even its length of stride." Sydney race fans will get to see plenty of Hay List and his new suit because he could have as many as three starts during the autumn carnival. The bad news for Sydneysiders is that Black Caviar is favoured to race in Adelaide next month. And another clash between the world's two best sprinters at England's famous Royal Ascot carnival seems increasingly remote. Hay List's trainer John McNair yesterday revealed the autumn race program for his super horse - and it doesn't include Royal Ascot. "I'd say it is very unlikely he will go to England," McNair said. "Singapore is an option but (owner) Terry Davenport has his concerns about going there because it can be very hot and humid. I'll do whatever Terry wants me to do." Hay List will race next in the Group 1 $500,000 William Reid Stakes (1200m) at Moonee Valley on March 23 before returning to Sydney. McNair said his options for Hay List include the Group 2 $175,000 Challenge Stakes (1100m) at Rosehill Gardens on March 31, then two Group 1 races at Royal Randwick, the $1 million TJ Smith Stakes (1200m) on April 14 and the $400,000 All Aged Stakes (1400m) on April 28. Hay List emerged from the shadow of Black Caviar when he carried 58.5kg to win a thrilling Newmarket from Buffering and Foxwedge. No horse has carried more weight to win the Newmarket since Gold Stakes shouldered 60kg to win in 1959. The win pushed Hay List's Timeform rating to 132. |
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Blind Faith
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Yes the handicap is a complex and difficult concept for some to grasp Judge. Glad to be of some assistance. Can't be bothered searching through your comments but I'll lay good money that you weren't concerned about Hay List having to give Black Caviar 2 kgs every time they went around. Odd that you now baulk at the idea of the shoe being on the other hoof. Learn to use the search engine - any search engine will suffice. A whole new world will open up to you. |
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Blind Faith
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What's he look like in lycra (the horse not JM)? Most people looking at that would swear blind it's an April Fools journalist joke come early. Just doesn't look right without the face mask and snorkel Would look better in chestnut. Moody will be fuming that he didn't think of it first. |
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JudgeHolden
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djebel
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I wonder if this suit would help Rebel Soldier ? |
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reductio ad absurdum
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scamanda
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Oh my god, Skins for horses. What a great idea.
Does it work like the compression clothing for people jujuno? They work great. Or is it actually April 1? |
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James
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I would never have believed it if you hadn't put a picture up
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Newtown Old Boy
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I'd be careful trying to put that thing on an entire.
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scamanda
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I had to check to see if it was real. So smart of them.
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jujuno
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I'm sure it works the same... he looks like the Phantom horse... |
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scamanda
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There you go melbsteve, the First4 which paid $21,500 on unitab. |
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djebel
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Vale John McNair |
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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Posted by Richo on Twitter.
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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acacia alba
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I had heard he was crook. Not nice news.
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animals before people.
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Gay3
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Pancreatic cancer doesn't give them long John Van Veenendaal only lasted a few months, insidious & sneaky disease that you appear to be unaware of untill too late McNair, who has not had a runner since March 2016, had been battling pancreatic cancer. In a note to friends of the family, McNair's wife Sue confirmed his death just four weeks after he had diagnosed with the disease. In more recent times, Chautauqua has provided most of the highlights for the T.J. Smith with his three wins on end but before 'The Grey Flash' hit the track, the 2011 edition of the race had set the benchmark for autumn excitement as it was the one day in Black Caviar's 25-start career that she actually looked like being beaten when Hay List slipped away four lengths in front halfway down the Randwick straight. Black Caviar reeled him in and won easily on the line but it was the first and only time she was truly tested at the elite level. McNair began training in Western Australia and then moved to Somersby in NSW where he trained some great horses. Hay List won 15 races from 28 starts and he did win three Group 1s despite finishing second to Black Caviar in four others. Hay List was euthanised in 2015 as a nine-year-old after contracting the hoof disease Laminitis. Edited by Gay3 - 02 Apr 2019 at 4:12pm |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Jamal
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John Marshall also passed away from pancreatic cancer and he died aboit 2 or 3 days before Christmas 2018 No need to quote when the post's directly above Edited by Gay3 - 02 Apr 2019 at 5:26pm |
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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RED HUNTER
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RED HUNTER
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John received a tremendous farewell (about 150 attended)and the service itself was grandly presented.
Greg McFarlane was there. Vale John and I'm sure everyone at the service had at least a moment of a tear.
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jujuno
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a marvellous man. Those who knew him, enjoyed his company.
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jujuno
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I sent Sue McNair a note, last night, commiserating her on the loss of Mustard.
John and the old bugger will probably meet up in that great stable in the sky. |
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acacia alba
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Where was he kiving out his days ?
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animals before people.
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acacia alba
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Living !!!
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animals before people.
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jujuno
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John's former property at Somersby.
Sue McNair replied to my e-mail, this morning, from WA, where she has returned to live after John's death. Said it was the 'closing of another door'... and she was well. We have both moved on from those wonderful times. I hope they bury the old boy next to Hay List, whose resting place is on the Somersby property. Great horses, both. |
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