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Move on. I know you all have garbage lives and thrive on outrage culture but some of you are just pathetic. It’s only luck that ten incidents like that don’t happen every day.  Can’t wait to see you back Bowman and thanks for getting the job done so we could collect. ClapClap
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I suppose you'd still be saying that if the jockey was killed. Without a doubt, Bowman was hell-bent on extricating the horse, as if there was something very significant at stake, it very much reminded me of the Dettori manoeuvre in the Cup a few years ago. If every jockey was that intent on forcing a run, there would be a dozen jockeys killed every year.
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Jockeys trust day today! Good time for them to start addressing the rules on careless ridding? In my humble opinion? They are far to light! Especially when a fall is caused? Should be minimum 3 months if you cause a horse to fall? Let them at least start there? It would nearly arradicate careless ridding! Not hard to work that out? See what happens??
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Yep,,,thought the same when watching them talk about the jocks killed today.   So many gone young thru careless riding.   Not to mention the ones left behind in a bad way.   More severe penalties needed.
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AA there has something got to be done that is more relivent then 4\6 weeks for killing horses and ruining human life!!
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Certainly agree with that, as do many others .
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But AA do you think anything will be done? I have a feeling jockeys association are pushing how they just got a ridding fee increase rather then addressing health of there members? Just thinking?
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S A .  I have no idea at all.   I think you know more about the jocks etc than I could ever know. 
I think the ones who are fit, healthy, and riding winners will be more interested in their winning fees than most of anything else.
I think its a shame those injured and hurt members cant have more input. 
Maybe have one of those injured in the jocks room every day,,,,saying look at me,,,,there but for the grace of god go you. 
Might make them wake up a bit more.  Maybe ????
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No! I think right here right now is the only way they will learn to look after each other! Unfortunately that is only MONEY. That’s what drives them to become careless and by sitting on sidelines for a long period? Is what will make them think of there actions? I know quite a few who have had complete life break downs over some ones careless ridding actions! This is not a minor problem 
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Does anyone know the latest on Hugh Bowman?
Has he offered (even a private one), a complete remorseful apology?

If not, Im bloody going to write to him.

The entire racing industry would have backed him within 5 minutes if he gave a massive apology straight away, packed up the bags and said, "I gotta be punished for this".

So he had a violent brain fade, on a 500kg horse, a win and all costs move.
So be it.

The horse died, jockey gets massively injured.

I just dont get it.
It was the classic case of a national hero, thinking he had to save face, save status, but went into defence mode, when all he had to do was show complete remorse.

Anyone know any updates on all this?
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I have not heard anything Redemption, but I do not know about a national hero tag being put on Bowman.

Nolen rode a horse who was unbeaten, and he is just about forgotten about, except for his close friends in the racing industry.

The jockeys who are associated with champions and who are remembered are those who were great outside the combination. Jim Pike was a great jockey before Phar Lap came along. Athol Mulley was well known before Bernborough, Moore's record stands for itself even without Tulloch. And no matter whether you like him or not Boss's record stands on its own without Makybe Diva. And when I say great, what I mean is that the average public knew who they were.

Not sure Hughie has transcended the racing industry like those jockeys, so not sure too many outside racing would know who Bowman is. 

But I do agree with the gist of your post Thumbs Up
  


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I do think many people know who Hughie is, due entirely to Winx.   But I agree with the gist of your post Voyager.
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Ollie was sorry as well. Did he put out a public apology to punters who backed his horse? 
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Beadman was unbeatable at one stage.
So too was Shane Dye.

Hugh Bowman rode one of the greatest horses in world history.
Why he tried to save face, and status, after killing a horse, is astonishing.
The racing industry should have supported all hurt parties, included Hugh Bowman, IMMEDIATELY, by encouraging him to be remorseful.
The Racing industry should have said, "Look Hugh, it was a shocker, we will pay the financial damages".

He went the opposite way, leaving all of us just mystified, in what is already a crap year.
He went the opposite way, for legal reasons? ego? status?
who the hell knows, but the whole thing was a farce, and should have been handled better.
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Very well said Clap
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Just read a piece in the Daily Telegraph from Sydney, which was about him getting fit to return, but it had no mention of any meeting or any comments between him and Adkins.

I thought it was a fluff piece of tabloidism (tabloid journalism), but my lack of respect for reporters in any commercial publication, might affect my point of view.   
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It's perhaps well to remember that respected columnist Ken Callander resigned from the Telegraph due to continual editorial interference.  Wasn't allowed to tell it like it was.

And the tabloid's cover of racing has gone steadily downhill ever since.
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The ride of a 4kg claimer on the toppy, Jim Byrne pulled his pants down, good on you Rothfire, you little beaut.
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bowman needs another spell - that was awful on Farnan
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Hughie now has 1 & 2 in my list of the worst rides I've ever seen. Would have got Black Caviar beat ridden like that.LOL
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I do not like kicking jockeys on rides, but I have to agree. Any non racing person watching that would say Farnan was ridden to set that race up for the winner.

At least the slipper winner has had a hard run into his next start. 
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I guess Jimmy Byrne didn't go down for nothing.
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Agree terrible ride on Farnan gave it absolutely no chance.
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Ridden just like Gai wanted him to ride it
No hope 
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Ridden just like Gai wanted him to ride it
No hope 

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Shouldn’t be riding anyway. Karma. 

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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Hughie now has 1 & 2 in my list of the worst rides I've ever seen. Would have got Black Caviar beat ridden like that.LOL


Van Gestel informed Bowman that Farnan ran his first 600m in 34.26 seconds from a standing start and he ran 10.34 from the 1000 to the 800m.Shocked

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/chief-steward-to-hugh-bowman-that-s-as-aggressive-as-i-ve-seen-you-on-a-horse-20200912




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Bowman quote from the stewards inquiry into his Farnam ride: "if I had my time again I wouldn’t have done that obviously, but it was an instinctive decision at the time.” 
Pretty much the same old line he trotted out after the Adkins disaster...Ouch
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