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Gay3
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Topic: Guest House Golden Slipper WinnerPosted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:00pm |
Seven instances of a Slipper winner in his 1st 4 removes |
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Lastycoon
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:10pm |
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How far can this boy go?
He looks like he hasn't yet tapped the full potential of his abilities. Very scopey and if you trust my eyes he looks a guineas horse. But at the same time, he is a big, strong 2yo and he will have plenty coming up behind who may eclipse him. Flash in the pan, or great 3yo? I would love to know what the knowledge here sees.
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Second Chance
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:46pm |
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His pedigree suggests optimum distances at Group 1 level of 1200-1400m, and 1600m only is class rather than breeding gets him there.
Jimo.
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furious
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 2:49pm |
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I am invincible tend to be pure speed. Very few get to a mile.
Furious, he's by Home Affairs ![]() Edited by Gay3 - 22 Mar 2026 at 3:19pm |
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Second Chance
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 3:06pm |
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And though Mick Price is an extremely successful trainer, as a general rule not many of his train on beyond their 3yo days, and for the most part his superior horses produce over sprint distances at 2 and 3. Not much has changed since Michael Kent came on board.
So it remains to be seen if they initially aim for the Guineas next Spring or more likely target the Everest and/or Coolmore. Perhaps we'll know more if he runs in the Sires Produce.
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Lastycoon
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 3:11pm |
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Mick has already said they will target the Coolmore, no shock there. They are considering the Sires depending on how he pulls up.
Question wasn't so much about whether he would get out in distance too much (probably phrased incorrectly, also mentioning Guineas), it was more a question of whether the smart folk here think he can go on with it at 3.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 3:23pm |
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This crop seems pretty weak to the eye but he does seem progressive. Hard to say if he will be competitive in the spring as I suspect there will be a lot of ones will establish themselves later in their 2yo season that maybe haven't had a start yet.
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Second Chance
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 3:55pm |
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Yes he's by Home Affairs, who is by I Am Invincible.
Now to the question of training on. If IAI is any guide, that sire has about eight performed sons at stud. Five didn't train on at 3. Two didn't train on as Autumn 3yo's, and only one trained on as a 3yo and beyond (Hellbent). Home affairs is one of those who performed as a Spring 3yo but he failed miserably as an Autumn and Winter 3yo. So if the above is any guide, Guest House might well train on as a Spring 3yo but would have to break the mould to perform beyond 2026. Though there's always exceptions to the general rule.
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furious
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 4:05pm |
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Home affairs is a son of i am invincble so we can only judge him on sire and wait to seeif his can go further
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 4:22pm |
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Agree. And he was better at3 than 2. But you never know.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 7:04pm |
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The trend continues: Vinrock the IAI colt is suddenly retired to stud after apparently failing to come up as an Autumn 3yo.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 7:20pm |
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Yes but thats I Am Invincible, not home Affairs.
Plus I also believe these front running 2yo types are often not that good, rather they just have a bit more race smarts and ability to settle. See it quite often that the ones that train on are those ones, but not always. |
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 7:27pm |
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If IAI is any guide, that sire has about eight performed sons at stud. Five didn't train on at 3. Two didn't train on as Autumn 3yo's, and only one trained on as a 3yo and beyond (Hellbent). Home Affairs is one of those who performed as a Spring 3yo but failed as an Autumn and Winter 3yo. So if the above is any guide, Guest House might well train on as a Spring 3yo but would have to break the mould to perform beyond 2026. Though there's always exceptions to the general rule. |
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 7:46pm |
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Hellbent just sired a Hong Kong Derby winner.
Odd Derby this, for 4 year old geldings,.not to mention that Deep Field sired one as well few years back
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 7:54pm |
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Home Affairs beat nature Strip in a lightning in the Autumn. What more could you expect. Nothing went right dor nature Strip that day admittedly and he shouldve won but he still beat Eduardo handily even if you ignore nature Strip.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 8:02pm |
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With a huge weight advantage in late Summer. How about the Newmarket Hcp and UK disasters?
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 8:06pm |
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He was asked to carry 56.5 as a 3yo, he deserves some relief from criticism for that, not sure on the UK but perhaps he didn't handle the travel?
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scratchy09
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Posted: 22 Mar 2026 at 9:06pm |
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He was barely a 1200m horse. Asking him to run up a hill at ascot was always too much. Artorius was far better suited to that. He shouldve been in thr 1000m race.
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Posted: 23 Mar 2026 at 9:53am |
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Our horses have all had to carry weight over there Afros. But as I posted in the wrong thread. Hellbent just got the HK Derby winner so I might yet eat my words on sons of I am Invincible having distance issues!
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Posted: 2 hours 29 minutes ago at 8:01am |
Coolmore rolls $30 million dice and buys Golden Slipper winner Guest House
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Lastycoon
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Posted: 2 hours 4 minutes ago at 8:26am |
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Good on Roll the Dice, they played the game and won big time.
I'm sure that will pay for a few more yearlings and training fees.
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Posted: 35 minutes ago at 9:55am |
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Wouldnt want to be sending a horse to a 2yo in a weak crop that is yet to really establish himself
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